Talk:Languages constructed by J. R. R. Tolkien

Fonwegian

Hi - while researching Tolkien's constructed languages for A Secret Vice, I came across his language Fonwegian, spoken in-universe on the "Island of Fonway". Tolkien gives a decent account of it in the original 1931 A Secret Vice, and it really should be included here. An analysis: Higgins, Andrew (15 May 2016). "Tolkien's A Secret Vice and 'the language that is spoken in the Island of Fonway'". Journal of Tolkien Research. 3 (1): Article 3. - Thanks,  Frzzl  talk; contribs  15:00, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

OK, I'll pop it in there. Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:38, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: Generalissima (talk · contribs) 20:57, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Conlangs and Tolkien? This seems like a fun article to review, so I'll try to get to it within the next few days. Great work, as always, with your Tolkien content on-wiki. Generalissima (talk) 20:57, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Many thanks! Chiswick Chap (talk) 21:06, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

1: Well Written

Lede:

• Nothing to note here, well written and a good introduction.

Context

• Again, good prose. I don't have any suggestions to make here.

Middle-earth languages

• Not strictly GA criteria-related, but I think it would be useful to mark when The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings came out in describing the timeline of language construction, since it's quite interesting that Sindarin only came into its own after the publication of the LOTR.
  • Added.
• "In early Quenya, adjectives agree with the noun they modify in case and number, but not in later Quenya, where this agreement disappears." This sentence seems a bit run-on to me; making adjectives the subject of the sentence resolves this, however. (Eg: "Adjectives agree in case and number with the noun they modify in early Quenya, but this agreement disappears in later forms of the language.")
  • Edited.

Analysis

• Nothing of note here. Solid prose.

Study

• Also nothing to note. Good job!

2: Verifiable with no original research

• Sources are presented very neatly and orderly.
• Everything is cited in-line, and I don't see anything that would need an additional citation.
• I see no evidence of OR or copyvio. Earwig only shows the quotes.

3: Broad in its coverage

• I'd say it meets this well. I think you can expand your summaries just a bit on the Elvish languages, but it still meets broad coverage as is.

4: Neutral

• I don't see any NPOV issues.

5: Stable

• No evidence of any edit warring.

6: Illustrated

• The images are properly licensed. I have to say, I really don't understand the bottom image in the Linguistic mapping section at all. They aren't arranged in the real-world configuration of where their linguistic inspirations were, or in the locations they are placed in Middle Earth. I might need more clarification on it.
  • The Shire is in the Northwest of Middle-earth, Dale in the East, and Rohan in the Southwest.

That's all I have! Really good job on this. Generalissima (talk) 21:45, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

• Fixes look good. Thank you! This passes all the GA criteria. Generalissima (talk) 19:06, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

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