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No mention of Latin Jazz based on Flamenco?[edit]

Chano Dominguez and many others are missing! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.103.221.194 (talk) 01:32, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Under-developed article[edit]

This article needs some work. Tuf-Kat 05:18, Apr 2, 2004 (UTC)

It does. I would not say that it "includes samba" : Samba was born maybe 40 years before it. CTanguy 01:40, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Yes, this article certainly needs work. It only makes general statements. This is far too broad and complex a sub-genre to receive the superficial treatment that the topic receives here.Dogru144 (talk) 01:27, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The opening sentence should be more clear as well. "Latin jazz is the general term given to this musical genre in the countries of Latin descent". Which musical genre? All musical genres in those countries? No, just this one. Oh. ...So Latin Jazz is the general term given to Latin Jazz, then. That's a fairly cicular definition to open the article with. -Humblebum75 (talk) 15:02, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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This is a high importance article. It needs this level of support and attention.Dogru144 (talk) 01:27, 9 September 2008 (UTC) Bold text Not good —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.58.74.72 (talk) 23:05, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Standards[edit]

The old list of Latin and funk jazz standards was just merged&redirected to (the now fully-referenced) List of jazz standards (per discussion at talk). You may wish to incorporate a small/referenced part of the old/new lists in this article. Just a note. -- Quiddity (talk) 18:56, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Latinamerican Jazz?[edit]

This article seems to refer to jazz made by latins in the united states, but what about all the jazz made in latin america besides cuba and brazil. For exemple there is a large movment of jazz in Chile and Argentina, fusioning cueca or tango to traditional jazz, or making traditional jazz alone. Even in brazil there are many composers such as Hermeto Pascoal or Egberto Gismonti that have done jazz diffentrly from the common bossa nova jazz fusion. So, there should be an article for south american jazz, latin jazz, jazz made in latin america, jazz by country, each latin american fusion jazz, etc? The thing is that this article is confusing, partial, or incorrect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.162.113.98 (talk) 00:36, 24 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Latin Jazz is older than 1940's[edit]

"Caravan" is a jazz standard composed by Juan Tizol and first performed by Duke Ellington in 1937. Irving Mills wrote the lyrics, but he sometimes is not credited on the many instrumental versions. The song is variously seen as the first Latin jazz song or as a Mideastern-influenced jazz song. Its exotic sound interested exotica musicians; Martin Denny and Arthur Lyman both covered it. Woody Allen used the song in two of his films, Alice and Sweet and Lowdown. Rap musicians Redman and Busta Rhymes sampled the song heavily in their 1998 song "Da Goodness" (on Redman's album Doc's da Name 2000).

There is even some historical details that the Harlem Hell Fighters back in World War I played jazz in Europe during the war with influences of latin genres by a member of the Hellfigters, Rafael Hernandez, best composer of Puerto Rico and the caribbean. He was a black Puertorican that eventually influenced all latin america with his creative musical talents.

Latin jazz has a longer history than what this article portrays... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.215.108.23 (talk) 02:42, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

bro this is the answer to all that you said up.. afrocuban jazz is the mixes of jazz with son montuno ,the instrument in son montuno are conga,campana,timbal,maracas,guiro,trompeta,trombon,piano,bongo....caraban dont have any latin instrument it's standard jazz that meant it's jazz you never listen caraban before listen it,it's just jazz now tanga thats latin jazz,afrocuban jazz — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.98.158.112 (talk) 06:36, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

bad English grammer and incorrect information[edit]

Someone re-wrote some important paragraphs concerning the definition of the genre and the song "Manteca." It appears that English is not the first language of this person, so I can understand why perhaps they misunderstood what was written. Dizzy himself said that Chano Pozo created the guajeos in the intro of Manteca. The statement does not mean that Chano invento guajeos, merely that Chano created the intro. Chano did not arrange the song. Before you make any more changes, it would be best to discuss the issues here I believe. Dr clave (talk) 05:00, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"manteca" was the first jazz STANDARD to be based on clave. If you know of an earlier tune, please name it here and don't erase the text in the article. Thank you.Dr clave (talk) 05:02, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I support your work on this article. Thank you for your careful consideration of many sources. I wish the 174.xxx IP editor was more familiar with English and with citing sources but he is not, and he has a strong viewpoint which involves pushing Mario Bauzá forward while pulling Machito and Dizzy back. I do not have the time right now to go to the university library and check out some Latin jazz books. It appears that you have a good grasp of the material, and when you are finished with your changes I will be able to help the article conform to Wikipedia standards of style. Binksternet (talk) 06:09, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. The 174.xxx IP editor and I have been having some discussions. It has been productive. He corrected a date I had entered incorrectly and I explained to him what the 3-2 2-3 concept and terminology means. I also explained to him what a jazz standard is, although I haven't heard back from him (her?) on that yet. Dr clave (talk) 16:16, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Beyond Latin Jazz[edit]

Certainly Airto and Nana are excelent musicians, but they are only percussionist, the core of the afro brazilian jazz (not bossa nova) has been developed by multi-instrumentist and composers Hermeto Pascoal and Egberto Gismonti, actually they have played with those percussionist as members of their own bands, they should have the proper place here. --Tommy The Wise (talk) 13:09, 31 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]