Talk:Lee Marvin

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Godspeed monologue[edit]

I think there's a problem here - Godspeed You! Black Emperor's mentioned album was released in 1996. There's a copy-and-paste article (a copy of which is used as the reference) about the monologue that states the film was being worked on "for five years," which would place the inception of the film at 1991 - after Lee Marvin died. If you listen to the track, it actually only remotely sounds like Marvin.

I love Lee Marvin, and I love that song, so as much as I want it to be him, I just don't think it is. The reference provided is pretty weak, anyway. If no one objects, I'll remove the info. --Identityshift (talk) 04:29, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Ancestry[edit]

Biography Magazine and some internet sources indicate Marvin was a descendant of both George Washington and Robert E. Lee. I found another source adding Thomas Jefferson as an ancestor.

Birth date[edit]

This article, the IMDb and Marvin's grave marker in Arlington National Cemetery (a military facility) all give February 19, 1924 as the date of his birth. This would have him turning eighteen about ten weeks after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor brought the US into World War II. However, he admitted in his later years that he was under age when he enlisted (I particularly remember an appearance on The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson), something that would have not happened if he was so close to his eighteenth birthday when the Japs bombed Pearl. Therefore, "1924" is the false year of birth he gave the Marines when he signed up (a lot of underage boys served in that war). Anybody have any citable documentation as to his real birth date? --Ted Watson (talk) 05:01, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

You can join the Marines, Army, or Navy at 16 with parental permission.70.176.118.196 (talk) 05:20, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Maybe in WW2, but not since then. 155.213.224.59 (talk) 19:08, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

April 17 edits[edit]

I've reverted the entire edit of late April 17, 2009, due to newly-placed information that conflicts with citations that were left in place, for spelling, capitalization, and grammatical errors, and for uncited claims that verge on POV. Addressing each of these issues would go a long way toward making the actual information acceptable. Until then, it's not. Monkeyzpop (talk) 07:40, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Iwo Jima?[edit]

I read Marvin was a Marine Pvt. at Iwo Jima. It would explain the gritty realism in his military roles; "The Dirty Dozen", "Delta Force", "The Professionals". I also read Bob Keesham ("Captain Kangaroo") was at Iwo Jima.70.162.46.94 (talk) 02:43, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

I don't know whether he was at Iwo or not but he was a Marine who was shot in the buttocks during a battle. He said, "I'm hit!" and one of the others said, "Shut up, we're all hit!" Upsmiler (talk) 03:48, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
Reading the article and its citations will reveal that neither Marvin nor Keeshan was at Iwo Jima. Marvin was wounded and invalided home prior to the Iwo Jima battle & Keeshan never served overseas. Monkeyzpop (talk) 10:23, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
Yes, I actually knew that but I'd forgotten that it was also in the article. I don't know why this rumor about Captain Kangaroo battling in WW2 remains so pervasive for so many decades. Must have something to do with the uniform. At least the tale doesn't involve him serving with the Australians. Upsmiler (talk) 16:17, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Drunk?[edit]

I read Marvin got drunk a lot. His then wife, Michele Triola (sp?) flew to Oregon during the filming of "Paint Your Wagon" to check up on him and see he wasn't having a drunken affair. (He didn't but Clint Eastwood did, with the leading lady, Jean Seaburg. Seaburg's husband flew over from Europe and challenged Eastwood to a duel--Eastwood backed-down.) This was in a book I believe was called "Movie Turkeys" or something, about films that went way over-budget and didn't break even.

I also read Marvin got drunk in his hotel room in Las Vegas while acting in "The Professionals". He took fellow actor Woody Strohe's bow and arrow and shot the hitch-hiking cowboy sign, "Cowboy Pete", breaking it! (The studio apologized and paid for repairs.)70.176.118.196 (talk) 05:18, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Marvin's alcoholism was beyond legendary and enabled him to fit in so perfectly with John Wayne and John Ford. Ford, like Spencer Tracy, was a bathtub alcoholic who'd rent a hotel room, get a case of liquor, and sit drinking all weekend in the bathtub to make cleaning up the resulting effluences easier. Henry Fonda said, "Wayne could outdrink any man" and Wayne apparently never needed to camp out in the bathtub. There is something really interesting, though, if you ever run across it; I've seen it on youtube but can't find it there right now. Wayne was interviewed on location by Merv Griffin only, unknown to Griffin, Wayne was so blackout drunk that he asked the next day, after having filmed it, when Griffin was going to arrive for the interview! Upsmiler (talk) 03:55, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
Please note the above discussion is in violation of WP:NOT#CHAT. As stated at the top of the Talk page, "This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Lee Marvin article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject." Thank you. Monkeyzpop (talk) 10:23, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
Oops. Of course you're right, Monkeyzpop. Upsmiler (talk) 16:08, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

The Killers link is broken[edit]

Not sure how to fix it, but the Killers is a 1964 film http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Killers_(1964_film) not the crappy band from the mid 2000s. Somebody needs to fix the link. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.76.123.45 (talk) 01:38, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

"Best know for..."[edit]

I just noticed that the lede states he is best known for M Squad. I realize that what someone is best known for is difficult to qualify, but I do question that choice. It may have been a hit at the time, but that show ran from '57-'60 and isn't exactly remembered by anyone, oh, I dunno, under 60. I think it would be more accurate to state he is best known for The Dirty Dozen or other later movies, or perhaps his persona, as a tough guy icon. I won't change it as I believe that sort of change requires a discussion but I did want to put it out there. freshacconci talk to me 15:07, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Lee Marvin on Hogan's Heroes???[edit]

I could swear that the radio voice of "Goldilocks" on one episode of Hogan's Heroes was Lee Marvin. Anyone know for sure?

IMDB doesn't show his name in relation to Hogan's Heroes (any episode). 155.213.224.59 (talk) 19:17, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Conservative Films?[edit]

The text says "Despite starring in conservative films...", but I don't know of a conservative film he was in. Does someone think war movies and westerns = conservatism? It doesn't match any definition I know. On the other hand, there is a reference there two which I have no access. Does the reference say these films were conservative? If so, it should be stated that it's an author's opinion. 155.213.224.59 (talk) 19:11, 11 September 2014 (UTC)