Talk:Leland Yee

Neutrality disputed

It has come to my attention from an Newspaper editor that Yee's staff is editing the page. So there is biases similar to the Electronic Arts page where they try to delete pages with scandals to make themselves look good. Here are the points that need to be addressed, changed or included:

1. Yee's positions on Manhunt 2 ratings and other Take Two products Done
2. Nowhere does the article add Yee's prostitution allegations or Hawaiian theft incident. Done
3. Remove sections of Legislative Recognitions or link because it is insignificant Done
4. Infobox needs to be added Done
5. Reword the article to give a net neutral connotation Done
6. Remove bullet points and write article in paragraphs Done
7. Relations with Ed Jew Done

--Cs california 03:13, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Removing unsourced

This article clearly has sources. It has several sources. Most of the information is from Yee's website but that information can be trusted.

Welcome

Is it just me or is the entire article a word for word copy from his website?

It sure was, but I've reverted it back to a free version now. -Wiccan Quagga 05:16, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Looks like it is that why I marked it with unsourced and bias. We must put both negative and positive comments --Cs california 07:42, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Problematic Biased Input Response

There was no articles that were given to me that were campaign bias that left nowhere. the picture was the only one available from an old chronicle newspaper I had. The empty braket sign { { - } } was to organize the article around the large picture that was imputed.

Point 4 Please don't use brackets that lead to no where Which brackets lead nowhere

If the information was "disputed" just change it and indicate why, you dont have to make a big deal about it. As you commented no "bias information should be added." I agree that bias information should not be added. The secondary bracket edits were to fix the links so they just summarized the information instead of showing the whole link. NO LINKS were Deleted.

Your link were listed in an unorganized manner displaying the adresses check links on other politican cites they were all organized

History page of leland yee articles:

• http://news.asianweek.com/news/view_article.html?article_id=3321133d76a4fdf39bab8c50fcf7a0c6 Death Threats Over Video Games
• http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/e/a/1998/03/31/NEWS16011.dtl&hw=Leland+Yee&sn=058&sc=309 Supervisor Yee's plan includes ban on new ventures in the Tenderloin, March 31, 1998
• http://dir.salon.com/story/tech/feature/2005/02/22/gta_killers/index.html Salon.com, Grand Death Auto
• http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/news.aspx?id=16707 Suit tying video game to murders may proceed
• http://www.safegamesillinois.org/media/releases/Tuscaloosa%20News%202_16_05.pdf Violent video game blamed for deaths
• Matier and Ross

"By all the useless re-arranging you make it hard for people to research and cause some delay in accessing said information." (TalkAbout) How do people find stuff if it is unorganized?

You mentioned:

• Police and parent groups are concerned about violent video games causing children to be desensitized to violence. (why are you talking about parents when the article relates to Leland Yee?) They also believe that the video makers should be held accountable in these type of crimes. Others believe it is not the direct cause of the violence. (you indicated believed twice which is not factual. Why are they included. It still is unrelated to the main article leland yee. We are not writing about the relations between video games and desensitizing children) Both of Yee's bills passed with a wide support due in part by all the media attention and support by parents.(this last sentance should be added to the point with bill 1792)

Note that the bottem two points can be combined because they relate to Bill 1792 & 1793. Why was the combination reverted??? Death threats is a minor aspect and should be combined.

• Yee is the author of California Assembly Bills 1792 & 1793, which was signed into law on October 7, 2005, which would prohibit the sales of "ultra-violent" games in California to persons under the age of eighteen. Judge Ronald Whyte issued a preliminary injunction against the law on December 22 2005. Judge Whyte will soon deliver his final opinion on the constitutionality of California Assembly Bills 1792 & 1793

• Yee received death threat as a result of authoring Assembly Bills 1792 & 1793.

Questions that should be adressed

1. Why were these point made significant since the article should be factual?
2. Points I made still incorporated the non-bias information provided?
3. Why was the combination of these points reverted?

Point 7 The photo you uploaded has been removed on two occasions by the wiki folks...see your talk page because you do not cite the source.

Which wiki folks removed this check history! the only people who modify it are not even members of wikipedia.

I have been modifying this page since 06:18, 30 May 2006 (check history) and the picture only has been taken off by non wikipedia users.

The picture sent in by TalkAbout does not cite the source either.

Point 3 Please check your spelling. You wrote:

• Finance Committee, he championed fiscal responsibility and accountability and established the largest "Rainy Day" budget reserve in San Francisco's history. Yee

Why start an new sentance with just yee and not finish it? Everyone makes mistakes just fix it and indicate that it is an minor edit. You dont have to wine about spelling when it is such an minor issue.

It seems like you copied this information through cutting and pasting. It is not problematic if you can easily change it and write bias information read articles linked.

I don't know why you have to make such a big deal about such a small problem

--Cs california 19:39, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Problematic Biased Input

s california,

Point 1 The allegations you cite would be in disputed by the very article you cite:

"They (officers) see his car drive up, stop, prostitutes walk up to the window, and he leaves," says one police source. ``Who knows? He could be asking for directions.

Yee, however, insists that he never did have any contact with hookers, and that police simply mistook his Mitsubishi Eclipse. ``In the second incident, they said there was somebody they thought looked like me who may have been soliciting, Yee recounted. ``And I said, `No, I was coming from work.'

Point 2 Quoting Cs california: "However the San Francisco Chronicle got hold of his mug shot and the situation was publicized all over San Francisco" This was no where in the article cited and would appear conjecture. Point 3 Please check your spelling.

Point 4 Please don't use brackets that lead to no where.

Point 5 Please DO NOT change the name of the articles to suit your campaign efforts or biased opinion of Mr. Yee.

Point 6 The idea of an encyclopedia is to gain clear unbiased information in an easy to view manner. By all the useless re-arranging you make it hard for people to research and cause some delay in accessing said information.

Point 7 The photo you uploaded has been removed on two occasions by the wiki folks...see your talk page because you do not cite the source.

Thanks

TalkAbout 00:50 June 5, 2006

Shrink down your picture

The picture you added takes up too much space, shrink it down or you will need to use { { - } } marks. But by all means add it in if it is an real picture. Since your are a photographer maybe you can help add in pictures to other politicans because I have trouble getting them for many pages I edited. Just wanted to make sure you were not an vandal because there was a lots of vandalsim on pages by random ip adress users.

CS California

Cs_California,

Yes, it is a real picture, my own work, with varification given to the wikipedia. As to the current picture my understanding is that we can not lift pictures, even from their public pages as all have copy rights on them. Thus, the reason that the wikipedia folks remove them. You have to provide them with the information as to the source and one can't provide others work.

Regards, TalkAbout 02:56, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

English Wiki Page

Kowloonese,

I checked the official website and he doesn't have said symbol in hi photograph. I have Rev. back to the prior edit until you can provide the official photograph with symbols/language. Also, please note that one can only alter ones own photographs. What does this mean 余胤良? I noticed you added this to the Leland Yee page here:

File:Lelandyee Speaker pro tem.jpg

Assemblyman Leland Yee 余胤良

Can you provide a translation and language. ThanksTalkAbout 19:46, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi TalkAbout,

I have noticed that you have been removing Leland Yee's Chinese name from his page. Your reason to remove info is pretty lame. You were asking for official proof that the Chinese name is really his name. You can simply cut and paste his Chinese name ( 余胤良 ) into Google and see what comes up in the search. You can start with google "image" search first. Then search again in the "web" section. Even if you cannot read Chinese, try to pay attention to the URL of the websites that use his name, some are Chinese Government sites and some are official Chinese governmental news agencies. Are those official enough for your taste?

Leland Yee is a Chinese American and he represents the Chinese communities in the US and naturally he uses a Chinese identity under those situations. Leland Yee often runs his TV commercials on KTSF Channel 26 in San Francisco. He said his own name in Cantonese when asking the Chinese communities to vote for him. He is active in Chinese communities including numerous visits to China. He uses his Chinese name in all official Chinese newspapers. There is no doubt what his Chinese identity is. I strongly believe that a person's alternate identity is encyclopedic information. Removing such info is inappropriate.

BTW, his official website does show his Chinese name. Follow the link to his official website, then click on the read oval labelled "Chinese" near the lower right corner. You should see his name on the page [1] or you may see all boxes. Also in one of your rev., your excuse for the edit was because the Chinese characters turned into boxes. The boxes you saw were common symptom when you are missing Chinese font on your machine. i.e. most wikipedia users who wish to see the native text can read those characters provided that their machines are set up correctly. You are just too selfish and self centered to delete information that you don't understand or setup to see. Kowloonese 03:29, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

What does this mean 余胤良? I noticed you added this to the Leland Yee page here:

Assemblyman Leland Yee 余胤良Can you provide a translation and language. ThanksTalkAbout 19:39, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Kowloonese, See reply in your talk page. PEACETalkAbout 05:44, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

District 8

Senate District 8 includes the western half of San Francisco and most of San Mateo County, including the cities of Belmont, Brisbane, Burlingame, Colma, Daly City, Foster City, Half Moon Bay, Hillsborough, Millbrae, Pacifica, Portola Valley, San Bruno, San Mateo, South San Francisco, and Woodside, as well as the unincorporated communities of Broadmoor, El Granada, Montara, and Moss Beach.PEACETalkAbout 05:34, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Feng shui

He tried to get the pseudoscience of feng shui enshrined into law in 2004. I wonder whether this caused enough of a stir to go under "controversies". If not, it might still be worth a mention somewhere. 86.131.101.174 (talk) 15:45, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Should be mentioned I remember him trying to past that but you need a article to reference.--Cs california (talk) 12:10, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia editing

I'm going to have to question the Controversies section regarding Wikipedia editing. Even lowly student interns like myself working in district offices (not capital offices) use computers that resolve to the California State Senate host. For example, I can go on any State Senators page, and edit out unflattering information, then imply (as this article does) that supports of that particular senator made those changes. --Rc251 (talk) 06:43, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia editing deleted information to points of criticism see: [2]. Campaign staff also cut & paste sections to make this article bias instead of NPOV. --Cs california (talk) 12:09, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

What evidence do you have that it was campaign staff? As I understand, that IP resolves to just the California State Senate. Couldn't it have been anyone from any office? Even someone who dislikes Leland Yee could purposely remove that section with the intent of starting controversy, no? --Rc251 (talk) 20:15, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Wikiscanner and articles mentioned above. And clearly you need to read up on IP/ISP --Cs california (talk) 05:22, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

You didn't answer my question. The IP that Wikiscanner resolved for that edit is just one from the entire block associated with the California State Senate. How can you pinpoint that being in Leland Yee's campaign staff as opposed to any other campaign that uses the California State Senate IP block? --Rc251 (talk) 19:53, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Discussion at the Admin noticeboard

I've started a discussion about all the IP reverting at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Leland_Yee. I would hope that someone who is editing there would be willing to comment there (or at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Non-autoconfirmed posts if needed). -- Ricky81682 (talk) 23:52, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Video Game Controversies

Leland Yee has recently (July 22, 2009) filed an amicus brief in support of Governer Schwazenegger's appeal to the supreme court regarding the passing of a law which would criminalize the sale of violent video games into children. Would this be appropriate to add to the video game controversies section of the article or is it too insignificant? The brief includes statements like: “Moreover, there is a practical side in favor of the State’s effort. Parents can read a book, watch a movie or listen to a CD to discern if it is appropriate for their children. These violent video games, on the other hand, can contain up to 800 hours of footage with the most atrocious content often reserve for the highest levels and can be accessed only by advanced players after hours upon hours of progressive mastery.” On Petition for a Writ of Certiorari to the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit.

The appeal has raised concerns that Californian legislators are spending time on pointless appeals on a law which has already been judged unconstitutional. Leland Yee files brief in attempt to revive gaming law -S7r4t4 (talk) 05:02, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Spelling error?

I changed a part from "illegal shark fining trade" to "illegal shark finning trade". I have a hard time believing that sharks are, or have been fined, and if the trade is illegal, then the use of fines to curtail it should have been mentioned in the rest of the text.