Talk:Lester Maddox

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This article has some definite problems. First off, it emphsizes the segreated nature of his restaurant in amanner that makes it seem unusual, which, considering the time and place, was not the case. Second, whether Lester armed the customers or they made use of the pick handles that he had in the restaurant as part of the decor, is an matter of controversy. Thirdly, the article fails to cover the accomplishments of his term as governor. All in all, this article is in need of a serious rewrite. 165.247.186.253 00:02, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I took a crack at it. I dropped the POV notice, because I don't feel that it's egregiously one way or another - more in need of expansion than anything else. Ellsworth 22:30, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Uh, Maddox is best known as a racist sunnovabitch. It doesn't really matter whether he was more or less racist than other politicians at the time-- he wasn't, but they didn't gain infamy. He's second only to George Wallace of Alabama in notoriety for racism. For a while in Georgia, he was the very face of institutionalized state repression of black people. --Defenestrate 23:36, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
Yes, it does matter. Maddox appointed more minorities to government positions than any other governor in the history of Georgia until then and probably did more for Georgians of all races. Just because the current bourgeois has made him their whipping boy doesn’t mean Wikipedia has a duty to line for the Establish, if anything, we should work to dispel the misconceptions created by the appalling educational capabilities of the government school systems.170.215.105.216 06:23, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Quotations[edit]

The quotation as to a better class of prisoner is true, but it has been quoted in so many variations, I am going to leave it as paraphrase until I can nail down a source. Unless someone else gets to it first... Ellsworth 23:08, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Found it. Maddox confirmed the quote in a letter to political news columnist Tom Baxter which was published in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution on October 21, 1999. Ellsworth 23:21, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

How about the quote: "He reportedly abhorred the idea of flying the state flag at half-staff 'in honor of a Negro.'", which does not have a cite of any kind. Sounds to me like it needs to go if it can't be cited.The Monster 04:03, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Whoa[edit]

Guys, I knew Lester. I live in Marietta GA. I frequently met and talked to him at the Cub foods across the street from his house. The people of Marietta especially knew him as a conservative, kind, and tolerant man. If anyone was to come down into Eastern Cobb County calling him a "racist sunuvabitch" they would be sorely opposed. I made some corrections in an effort to portray him more towards the light that locals, the folk that knew him, saw him. I ask that y'all respect his honor as a person. The media surer than hell didn't.AndrewTPoland 10:41, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Why not Democrat?[edit]

Listen, user:Neutrality, it's fine if you think that ol' Lester was Dixiecrat. But he was a member of the county and State Democratic party, the sort of populist Democrat that doesn't exist in our State anymore. I'm not just referring to racism, either. He was a Democrat.

--Defenestrate 22:06, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Why does the introduction say "and maintained, to his death, that he never had any regrets". That is extremely POV and political. Particularly as people who knew him said he was not a segregationist!

He's a Democrat[edit]

Lester was a Democrat; see above. To verify, you may contact the Fulton County Democratic Party or read any of a number of textbooks. He did not belong to an organization that called itself the "Dixiecrat" party.

--Defenestrate 23:36, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Place of Birth[edit]

Moncton NB? What happened to Atlanta?

Maddox's Race[edit]

I think this article needs to state clearly near its beginning that Maddox was white. There's no picture of Maddox and the reader is forced to infer his race. I added that he was white and someone removed my edit. I think the article would be more informative if it stated Maddox's race.Jdmaloney (talk) 04:42, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Accomplishments in office?[edit]

Deleted:

  • Expanded food stamp programs from 27 to 253 counties.

Georgia has had only 159 counties since 1932. Ellsworth (talk) 19:01, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

In any case, the "accomplishments in office" section is pretty clearly a trivia section. There's no reason for randomly-selected, uncited sentence fragments to occupy a special section.--Ibagli (Talk) 19:23, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

RfC[edit]

BulbBAn RfC: Which descriptor, if any, can be added in front of Southern Poverty Law Center when referenced in other articles? has been posted at the Southern Poverty Law Center talk page. Your participation is welcomed. – MrX 16:53, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Dick Cavett Show, 12/18/1970[edit]

The account in the article is at variance with my memory and with this summary in the Cavett article. Article probably needs to be corrected based on contemporaneous press accounts. Billbrock (talk) 02:38, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Picture[edit]

The picture on the infobox should be moved into the body of the article. - Billybob2002 (talk) 20:13, 19 May 2013 (UTC)