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Untitled[edit]

Archive:/Archive1

New song?[edit]

An untitled acoustic song has been circulating torrent websites. It is undeniably Fred Durst, who doesn't appear to like the song, saying "That was shit" at the end. Does anyone know if this is an old demo or a brand new track?


LIMP AND THE BOYZ NEED TO TOUR SOUTH AFRICA PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.208.32.34 (talk) 10:00, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Controversy[edit]

Any thoughts about adding a summary of this under a "Controversy" heading, or something similar?

http://www.blistering.com/news/newsdet.php3?ID=2583

-Some random newb.

In my hometown of Vegas, Limp Bizkit was boycotted for cancelling their Vegas shows 3 times and is banned from radio airplay which happened in 2004, maybe someone should add this?

sign your post? Daedae (talk) 15:53, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Under the Significant Other controversies, I'm removing the last "sentence" of the first paragraph,

Consequently, the music video for the band's single "Re-Arranged".

because it's not a complete thought. If somebody wants to expand on it and put it back, go ahead. Daedae (talk) 15:53, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Cleanup and suggestions[edit]

General Cleanup (and future suggestions)

Deleted some unsourced, possibly libelous comments, and cleaned up the article until the "Results may vary" section:

the other major issue I have with these sections:

1)seeming contradiction... did Wes rejoin the band before or after they started driving to Los Angeles?... also a clarification or source would be nice for "after working out his personal issues"

if you feel I went too far in these edits please at least clean up the language or provide sources, thank you.Jjchong 15:27, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

The intro to the article is WAAAAAY too long. You should be able to see the TOC when the page loads. --Velvet elvis81 05:42, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Refs?[edit]

Why does the reference cited as showing Limp Bizkit were one of the first new metal bands go to a page which mentions Korn and the Deftones, but not Limp Bizkit? (This is the first ref on the page.) Might change back to "citation needed" unless someone has something better to use. Random name 01:41, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Changed - anyone have a cite for this? Random name 10:08, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Poop DVD[edit]

In the back of the Significant Other booklet, it says Cming Soon The Limp Bizkit DVD Poop.

was this ever released??

no its been put off since 1999. the bonus dvd of results may vary was a 40min trailer of what the dvd was going to be, and its still being put off now.-HDS

is this version of results may vary avalable in the united states?Jimmypop1994 21:25, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

hold up i think i might of found the DVD

http://www.amazon.com/Limp-Bizkit-Poop/dp/B00000JGDE

Jimmypop1994 21:32, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

August release[edit]

Can somboy Please give a link to the interview where Durst says all that stuff about the RATM comback tour and all.Jimmypop1994 21:16, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

They are noteworthy for mentioning the name of the band in every song in order to generate more album sales from radio airplay.[edit]

This is false as they do not mention thier name in every song only in an few and unless you can verfiy the album sales from mention of name to increased airplay this information will be removed.TG 50 20:28, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

If someone could find a cite indicating this was done deliberately (even if not continuously) I'd like to see it, mostly because it sounds like an interesting article to read. Random name 21:01, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
Someone changed it to take out "every" song, which I will accept. I would even accept "all songs released as singles." I don't think the point that they include their name to generate album sales is debatable.

This is not true al singles do not have the name such as "Faith" "Nookie" "Break Stuff" "My Way" "Bolier" "Eat You Alive" "Churshed". The only ones that do are "Counterfeit" "N 2 Gether Now" "My Generattion" "Rollin" (Air Raid Vechile) and "Behind Ble Eyes" futhrmore The Unquestionable Truth does not mention the bands name in any of the songs.There is no source they did this and I have never done that you have no prove and you probally have only heard the singles from Chocolate Starfish and Significant Other and think you have heard every Limp Bizkit song if you add it again unless can verfiy it it will be removed.TG 50 17:59, 18 July 2007 (UTC

Do you mean "proof," fanboy? You keep removing it, I'll keep adding it. I'm right, and you're trying to apologize for a crappy band that has been polluting the airwaves since they ripped off George Michael.

In Wiki you have to be able to source something if another user or users disagree to make sure it is a a accurate statement. Since you have no proof of this i will remove the information unless you verfiy a relaible source that the band indeed do this. Your or own views on the band is not a relabile source. To me you are just a hater who has come up with a idea about Limp Bizkit to generate more negative press about the band and have made up your mind you are right and can't even give me or anyone else proof that LB did this so I could help but read your little polluting airwaves statement and thought i leave you with a excerpt of "Pollution" by Limp Bizkit on thier 1997 debut ablum Three Dollar Bill Y'all [chorus] When do you decide (you decide) Then you can know in your mind (you decide) When do you decide I’ll probably never understand Pollution, you preach the noise about the words that you don’t wanna hear Pollution, I keep the grip tight on the mic when I spill Pollution, you preach the noise about the words that you don’t wanna hear Pollution, I keep that grip real tight thank you TG 50 13:14, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

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rateyourmusic.com[edit]

Limp Bizkit have more albums in the Bottom 100 at influential website rateyourmusic.com than any other aritst, with six. Also, "New Old Songs" is at #2, and "Results May Vary" is at #5, so they also have the most albums in the Bottom 5. Might be worth mentioning, at least as evidence that their popularity has seriously declined.

No because ratings at rate your music change too often, for example unquestionble truth was in the top 100 worst, now its not Portillo (talk) 22:47, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Umm what the hell? Where did Results May Vary go?[edit]

Okay, I know not many people liked the album (i did though), but come on, the section for it has been missing since the 23rd. Please do something about it and make sure it doesnt happen again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kornography (talkcontribs) 20:58, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Excuse me people, but results May Vary is STILL MISSING from the article. Will you people please adress this situation acordingly.--Kornography (talk) 13:28, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I was going to say... I know a lot of people didn't like Results May Vary, but totally deleting the section from the article? That's unnecessary. Can someone put it back? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.109.26.19 (talk) 19:04, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, honestly, this is getting absurd. This section has been missing forever and still hasn't been addressed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.75.192.159 (talk) 19:25, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much for re-adding Results May Vary, Make sure it doesnt happen again :-) --Kornography (talk) 14:08, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

No Problem, its a shame an admin never stepped in. Music&&Power.. (talk) 19:26, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Uhhhhhh...[edit]

The Unquestionable Truth part Two is totally gone! It says its because it apparently isnt important and some people dont believe it will be released...Well apparently more info has appeared about three six mafia and those pictures from a few months ago. Obviously they are working on it now. So please re-add TUT(Prt2). There are alot less significant upcoming albums that dont deserve an article than this.--Kornography (talk) 21:43, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Picture with Wes[edit]

I think a picture with Wes woulld work better than Mike Smith since he was only in the band for one album and most people know Limp with Wes Borland.TG 50 (talk) 19:15, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Quick change[edit]

I made a quick change: "Christopher Arp of Psyopus auditioned in this guitarist search, as he later said in an interview with Terrorizer magazine, and Eddie Van Halen auditioned for fun due to him being friends with the band.[citation needed]" I did this because it is unnecessary information that has nothing to do with Limp Bizkit directly (or anything else in the article). It was not cited, and all effort to find a source were unsuccessful. DubD28 (talk)DubD28

Need removal[edit]

I removed the section "Business Ventures": ["It was around this time that Fred Durst started to assist the careers of a number of up-and-coming bands, particularly Staind, Cold, Puddle of Mudd and Taproot (who later rejected Durst's contract). Most of these bands have since tried to cement themselves as an independent, standalone band and denounce Limp Bizkit's aid and influence. Some however, such as Staind in particular, stay true to Durst's aid. Staind had always said how thankful they are to Fred. In 2006, when Fred Durst did the song 'Outside' live for the second time with Staind, Aaron Lewis replied to several hecklers with "Hey, if it wasn't for this motherfucker right here, I wouldn't be playing in front of you tonight"."]

This is completely irrelevant. This article is suppose to be about Limp Bizkit, not just Fred Durst. That paragraph would be much more appropriate on the Fred Durst page. DubD28 (talk) 22:00, 3 July 2008 (UTC)dubD28

Wes Borland 2nd departure[edit]

Just as a note to anyone working on the article, Wes Borland's first departure is mentioned and noted as his first, labeling something as first should mean there is a second. A 2nd departure is implied as the article states that they are looking for a replacement for Borland, yet the only mention of a 2nd departure is a note that says that Borland was working on side projects while waiting for the lyrics of Part II to be completed. There is no explanation or discussion of him actually departing from the band a second time. Livingston 14:13, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Limp Bizkit: Collected[edit]

What the hell is up with the album "collected"?

maybe it should be mentioned in this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.235.253.2 (talk) 10:45, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm getting the feeling that it was just a compilation put together by either some fans tired of waiting for TUT (Part 2), or some scammers eager to make a quick buck. I've been unable to find any official releases about this "new album". SMC (talk) 08:52, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

New album[edit]

Can someone make an article for the new album? Its pretty much confirmed its coming out so please make one.

Sensationalism[edit]

I removed what was an obvious sensationalist claim of fault for a death from a controversy section. I'd like to add on that note something that shouldn't be in the article but is nevertheless relevant. The girl in question (Jessica Michalik) suffered a heart attack. The only known medical reasons for a teenager to suffer a heart attack are disease, genetic predisposition, and/or preexisting condition. The article previously suggested the heart attack was caused by the activities of the band and attempted to illustrate what sounds like pieces of information heard by the news media, friends, and/or relatives the girl, drawn out to bring on a bad light about the death as if was caused by the band in question. Please note that I in particular do not care for Limp Bizkit and am personally against both the type and sound of the music and lyrics they create. I am however attentive to the truth and because Wikipedia is supposed to be a version of the truth I must stand ground even when something I don't care for is falsely chastised. Zephalis (talk) 06:51, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Balsamo and Waters!?[edit]

Hey when there's no certain news of Terry Balsamo JOINING Limp Bizkit, and since it's just a Rumor and there has still been no confirmation as to whether or not Balsamo has in fact rejoined Limp Bizkit, Is it correct to put him in band's Members part??? Solino the Wolf (talk) 00:16, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Is anyone to answer?!!Solino the Wolf (talk) 11:46, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

No, it's not, unless it's referenced. My understanding was that he was working on a private project with Sam Rivers, not the whole band. SMC (talk) 08:47, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

He was working with Sam on new L.B. stuff but wanted to be contractly guaranteed money which is a smart idea due to the band's sketchy business practices. lol They also had a new guitarist that went to LA for a photo shoot, but they ran into Wes in LA, and apparently they all need money and sent the new guy back to Jax. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.177.156.100 (talk) 19:05, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Well even if what you guys are saying is true, this article still lacks authentic, reliable references on wether Balsamo and Rob Waters were members of L.B. All that the article on Waters was a member of the band in 95 and the reference is linked to an article where waters is barely mentioned. Same can be said for Balsamo, where 2 out of the 3 references are dead links. So what should be done about these 2? Aashwath_001 (talk) 15:15, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

WTF?[edit]

What the hell happened to this article? Dumaka (talk) 21:22, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Care to be specific? SMC (talk) 08:37, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Genre[edit]

WHAT HAPPENED TO THE GENRE? Who has douts about Limp Bizkit's music being rapcore???? AND since ALL reliable sources know them as Rapcore AND alternative metal, Why the hell Someone took it from their genre???

Ok I fixed it.and someone moved it adding "Alternative metal is not Honest" and "Funk Metal is not needed" .Hey!This is not about your opinions! We have reliable sources for all that.Besides many Limp Bizkit songs like Nookie wich is a combination of rapcore,Nu metal AND ALT METAL, and Lonly world and many other songs are Alt metal! About funk metal, yea it might be not good to be mentioned in infobox, But it IS their style in rapcore.(It could be mentioned in Style part wich this article doesnt even have and thats why I put it in infoboX) Solino the Wolf (talk) 20:34, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree with you regards alt-metal. They are mainly a nu metal band, at least that's what I consider them. There's been a fair amount of genre-switching going on, specifically removing genres that LB clearly do represent - but if you want to add a genre, be sure to back it up with references. SMC (talk) 08:39, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Alternative Metal and Funk Metal are not needed which is why i keep removing them because if you think they are classed as these then you dont know your genres, yeah sure allmusic might list them both as the bands genres but that is obviously incorrect. Elements of the two genres in the band's music are VERY minimal as far as i can tell, therefore I strongly beleive that Nu metal, Rapcore and perhaps Rap Metal are the only genres that are needed on the bands page, as they obviously come under those genres much more than anything else. 86.133.124.103 (talk) 01:43, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

I don't know what I was thinking when I wrote the above. I've always known that LB is nu metal at the core. Funk metal doesn't really come into it. And I've got to say I don't like allmusic as a "reliable" source, either, since their categories are highly unlikely to have been given much thought. SMC (talk) 08:29, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
As allmusic has been used as a reliable source in many articles in wikipedia,We cant count it out of sources cause we THINK it's not reliable.yea sometimes what is wrote there is just shit but as I said,it has been used in many other articles.And can anyone answer me if "Build the Bridge" is not alt metal then what is it?And if they are only rapcore and nu metal why do many songs like Phenomenon,Nookie,Full nelson,Hot dog and MANY OTHER songs contain alternating verses and chorses?(These songs are rapcore,nu metal AND Alte metal)And about funk,what genre can we say for "ReArranged"?as I said before you're right Funk metal is not their genre but is strongly their style in rap rock(in songs like Counterfeit,Stink finger and many others) and since the article doesnt have STYLE part there's nowhere else to put it.
Besides,as a reliable source which has been used in many other articles sais they are funk and alt,You need a reliable source to say they are not if you want to change it!Solino the Wolf (talk) 23:44, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Build a Bridge sounds more like and Alternative rock style power ballad to me, oh and I have found reliable source from Musicmight which states they are Nu Metal and Rap metal so I will add in the source. 86.141.165.253 (talk) 14:32, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

1.Rap Metal is a subgenre of rapcore and they both are subgenres of raprock.on of them will be enough to describe their genre.(you can look in Rap rock article in wikipedia).2.As I said,as a reliable source (which has been used in many other articles) sais they are alt metal and funk metal,there is no reason not to add it until you got a source which sais they are not.(I told this before but as nobody answers I'll change it.If you have a source which sais they are not funk metal or alt metal you can bring it here and change the genre) Solino the Wolf (talk) 21:22, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
Ok I found more sources for Alt metal and funk metal.Now it's not only allmusic.Solino the Wolf (talk) 23:19, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Nu metal is basically a derivative of Alternative metal among various other genres, so why keep adding it in when they are clearly Nu metal for the most part? so basically just that alone is enough.86.143.232.16 (talk) 00:06, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

You're right.But even if you look at KoRn's article you might find alt metal in infobox.I think it's because although most of Nu metal songs are alternative metal too,There are nu metal songs which are not alternative(for example Soulfly's debut album had a lot of nu metal songs which were not alt metal and also Korn's debut) So when we mention both,it will make it more clear.Solino the Wolf (talk) 15:23, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

HEY I'M SICK OF THIS!ACCORDING TO WIKIPEDIA RULES,YOU CAN'T MOVE A STATMENT WHITH RELIABLE SOURCE ! At least talk it first HERE then change it!You really dont know how to use wikipedia!! Solino the Wolf (talk) 17:03, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Alright very well, i will give up in this editing war against you. But the way i see it is I was simply removing a genre that they clearly are not catergorised as regardless of what some source might say, Korn are classed as Alternative Metal because pretty much every album that came after Follow the leader has that sort of sound as its hard to pick out the hip hop influences in comparison. On the other hand Limp Bizkit have pretty much been categorised Nu Metal throughout their career so far.86.143.232.16 (talk) 17:28, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

you removed Funk again!I can name many songs that are alt metal: "Nookie","phenomenon","Hot Dog","Full nelson" and "Take a look around"(all mixtures of rapcore,nu metal and alt metal)"It will be Ok" and "my way" (Nu metal and Alt metal)and even "Nobody like you" is kind of alt metal!Solino the Wolf (talk) 18:22, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes i deleted it because to call them Funk metal is stupid, I have gave up doing editing wars with you but i know a user called Prophaniti who often deletes Alternative metal from Nu metal band pages, so hopefully he will come across this one soon, if not ill contact him about it. 86.143.232.16 (talk) 22:09, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

do as you want.we are not here to fight.we are here to make the article the best for the readers.You can tell all the sources that their stupid to call LB funk.I don't know.As I said before.Funk is their style in rapcore and if the article had "style and influences"part it should be mentiond there.Bus as it doesn't,It's to be in infobox.Solino the Wolf (talk) 22:17, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Solino: with regards to the sources you added in recently, I just wanted to address them here for clarity. Yahoo music and buzz are directly taken from allmusic, which we're already using. Mahalo appears to be user-edited, just like wikipedia. Artistopia also appears to simply be copied from wikipedia. So I'm afraid none of them can be used as reliable sources, sorry. Prophaniti (talk) 18:35, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

NOTE The same stupid cunt that left a nasty comment in the "Band Name" section also left another nasty comment here. I removed it, of course, and I need to say again: ban the fucking user now. And I don't mean temporarily. --LordNecronus (talk) 21:54, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

The Genre should be Nu metal. rap metal, and rapcore, Fred Durst even said their band was rapcore, so it should be added. Drgreen19 (talk) 21:51, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Durst has called Limp Bizkit Nu Metal and a few other things (Funk in a song, can't recall which one), but in this specific interviews, he calls the band rapcore: http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=142583 I don't know if the one thrash metal song they have (Head to the Barricade) is genre-defining in any sense... Rapcore needs to be added for sure though... Other than that, the genre definistion of LB is pretty good as of now. L.C.E.C. (talk) 20:12, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

The genre should be Rap metal, nu metal, rapcore, alternative rock. It doesn't matter what Fred Durst said, many bands have classifyed themselves in a genre that they weren't, for example Motorhead calls themselves rock and roll when they are obviously more speed metal. Limp Bizkit's overall genre was more rap metal than anything else since they included much more hip hop and metal elements than anything else which is a characteristic of rap metal Metalfan72 (talk) 20:52, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

I would say they are rap metal, nu metal, and alt metal for sure nearly any source will tell you they falling within atleast one of those genres.--71.173.42.162 (talk) 21:55, 22 December 2011 (UTC) limp bizkit are more of a hip hop group so they should only be listed under rap metal and rapcore.nu metal is more like korn and slipknot. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.32.220.148 (talk) 21:31, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Genres in infobox[edit]

On December 31, 2008, someone deleted material from the infobox that was supported by the reference. I restored it. I incorporated subsequent edits to the infobox. If anything doesn't match the references, please fix it. If the listed references are wrong, please provide higher-quality references, use those, and put a note here saying what you did, why you did it, and why you think the replacement references are more accurate. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 00:25, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Self-reverted after reading discussion above. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 00:30, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

A note to editors editing with IP addresses[edit]

Consider registering an account so other editors like me can leave you messages on your talk page. An anonymous removal of sourced material without explanation on the talk page is frequently mistaken for vandalism - it's one of the things vandals tend to do. If you put a name behind the edit or you explain it here or better yet both people will be more likely to discuss the change with you before reverting it. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 00:28, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Podcast[edit]

According to the organiser of the Download Festival in the UK Wes Borland is back with Limp Bizkit, the podcast can be found at the following link - http://www.metalhammer.co.uk/news/download-exclusive-interview/ - Approx 5 minutes in. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.1.150.15 (talk) 18:12, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Band Name[edit]

Could someone explain (and please add to the article) where the band's name comes from? --Robinson weijman (talk) 12:11, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't know for sure, so don't go by my word completely, but I think it has something to do with this. --Lordnecronus (talk) 23:57, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
Alternatively, [1] - that could be the meaning. --Lordnecronus (talk) 00:01, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
There was a nasty comment left here by some wanker regarding this band name stuff. He obviously hated speculation. Which would be fine... but I hate being insulted. Especially over something as downright innocuous as this. Actually, this particular person, I've noticed, has had a history of vandalism on the site. Can't we just ban him for good? --LordNecronus (talk) 00:18, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the answers - nothing so far we can add to the article, I guess. --Robinson weijman (talk) 14:28, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
(Please Excuse The Innappropriate Language) A limp biscut is were several men stand in a circle around a biscut and matrurbate. The last person to ejaculate on the biscut has to eat it. There is no sourcable evidence that the band derives there name from that but it's fairly obvious. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheRunyon123 (talkcontribs) 06:56, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
Wrong, the meaning is about how one of the members (the bassist Sam Rivers iirc) was high as fuck and said his "brain felt like a limp biscuit" [2] L.C.E.C. (talk) 15:11, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

33 million albums[edit]

A reference is needed to prove that the band has actually sold over 33 million albums. Otherwise, the statement is questionable. Steed Asprey - 171 (talk) 07:18, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Albums Sold[edit]

According to a UG article: http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/upcoming_releases/limp_bizkit_ready_first_album_in_over_5_years.html They say LB's first 3 albums have sold 33 million copies. but if you count RMV which went platinum, and TUTp1 which sold 1 million worldwide, its safe to say they sold at least 35 million albums. if anyone objects tell me why, thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fifthhorizon (talkcontribs) 21:56, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Waters[edit]

Can anyone find a source for Rob Waters' lawsuit and six figure sum? I can't find it anywhere, so if no one finds it in a couple days its getting taken off. And I'm working in getting some LEGAL photos of the band. Fifthhorizon (talk) 02:30, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Backing vocals[edit]

Who does the backing vocals for Limp Bizkit. We should put that in. Drgreen19 (talk) 20:42, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Intro[edit]

It is indeed obvious that Gold Cobra isn't coming out this year, but the intro needs to be reworded properly. "is yet to be released" doesn't sound right. Any ideas? I was thinking "With Borland, Limp Bizkit recorded their first full length album with their original lineup in ten years, "Gold Cobra". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fifthhorizon (talkcontribs) 02:41, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

The Unquestionable Truth (Part 1)[edit]

Hi. I have noted that The Unquestionable Truth (Part 1) is regarded as an EP all over Limp Bizkit-related pages. Allmusic and the band's site itself don't consider it as such, but rather as a full-lenght album. Take a look at here and here. I will clean it out unless anyone disagrees. Maimai009 (talk) 18:46, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Its and EP no mater how you look at it, its to short to be an album. Just look at Alice in Chains Jar of Flies its longer the The Unquestionable Truth (Part 1) just consider it a studio EP.[1] IT doesn't make it any less of an album, just like how jar of flies in one of Alice in Chains best albums their just EP albums not studio albums. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Feedmyeyes (talkcontribs) 19:59, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Hello, thank you for giving your opinion. Just take a look at Weezer's 2001 album. It's shorter than TUT, and it is an album. The fact is that neither the band nor the label nor allmusic (which is a reputable third-party source) regard the album as an EP. It's just a standard studio album. Maimai009 09:27, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

When you search on any music website to purchase the album, almost all list it as an EP, including Amazon and eBay. Not to mention there was very minimal advertising regarding the release, something that LB has done extensively with their full length albums I think we should revert the pages back the way they were. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fifthhorizon (talkcontribs) 03:02, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

They didn't advertise it because Fred Durst wanted it to be an underground album. eBay listings are based on the sellers' choosing. Retailers are not reliable sources. WTF (talk) 08:03, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
It's a mini album - I think by definition this means it is an ALBUM of sorts. Particularly as it is a concept piece - the idea of an album is enough songs together to have some larger whole made by their cohesion. (Chill (talk) 01:53, 6 May 2011 (UTC))

Is there an unofficial rule that an album has to have a certain amount of songs so that it is considered an album or EP? Portillo (talk) 08:03, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Criticism and Controversy Section[edit]

I was wondering if starting a criticism and controversy section would be necessary. Because Limp Bizkit is one of the most ridiculed bands I've ever heard of. They got blamed for a mosh pit death, have had feuds with other artists, and have a widely panned album, as stated in the articles about this band. So what do you guys think of this? Rocker10000 (talk) 21:35, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

If you can find reliable sources to support such content, then maybe. But I think you'll find that most of these things are already discussed (and sourced) in the History section (the mosh pit death, "feuds", and commercial results of their albums are all discussed in there). --IllaZilla (talk) 22:06, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

It's not NPOV to have a section devoted to opinions of a band. WTF (talk) 23:40, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Quote[edit]

Do we really need the quote "As we head towards..." at the end of the Gold Cobra and recent events section ? It is already present in the Gold Cobra article, so it is duplication of data. By the way, this quote doesn't bring much information to be relevant in the band page. Maimai009 11:22, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done. Maimai009 11:10, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Featured Article[edit]

How can we make this into a Featured Article? Portillo (talk) 09:13, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Pick up the authorized biography that was put out at the height of their popularity maybe. WTF (talk) 07:42, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

I've got the book and I'm looking at some other band articles like Pink Floyd for style inspiration on how to write this biography. WTF (talk) 08:32, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Deleted unreferenced and incorrect information[edit]

the paragraph "Guest performances on the album include Mathematics, Raekwon, Gene Simmons, Paul Wall and Lil Wayne." was unreferenced and after hearing the album in full, untrue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.180.239.162 (talk) 17:54, 22 June 2011 (UTC)


Smelly Beaver album[edit]

Should we add album info about this unofficial album to the main page. Or is it a bootleg? http://www.limpbizkit.com/forum/default.aspx?tid=460976&cid=690 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Campuscodi (talkcontribs) 13:16, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

"Unofficial album" and "bootleg" are the same thing, so, it doesn't belong here. WTF (talk) 07:40, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Underneath the Gun, song on Results May Vary search result[edit]

Do you really think the search for "Underneath the Gun" should redirect to Results May Very? A deathcore band formed under this name in 2004, they broke up by the end of 2009, but may qualify under notability for Wikipedia status. If there page does get created, should it take the "Underneath the Gun" slot, or have it as "Underneath the Gun (band)"? • GunMetal Angel 01:29, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

I personaly don't think this song is particularly notable. It's not a single, nor a popular song. I have no knowledge of the band you cited, but it would be better for Underneath the Gun to redirect to the band's article. Maimai009 08:25, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
Will do, in fact I think the article would have already been created several times if it wasn't for that redirect. • GunMetal Angel 02:00, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Limp Bizkit/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:28, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Right then, I will begin reviewing this article and make straightforward changes as I go (explanations in edit summaries). Please revert any changes I make where I inadvertently change the meaning. I will post queries below. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:28, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

The first para of Formation and early years (1994–1996) - do we have and/or can we add info on how long the three were jamming before Borland joined? Did any of these three songs survive in any form or develop into anything notable?
Durst named the band Limp Bizkit, because he wanted a name that would repel listeners. According to Durst, "The name is there to turn people's heads away. A lot of people pick up the disc and go, 'Limp Bizkit. Oh, they must suck.' Those are the people that we don't even want listening to our music." - I'm torn here - the quote is really good I think as it encapsulates Durst's reasoning well and is striking. However the first sentence is then somewhat repetitious and possibly redundant, yet the quote comes over as a bit naked without it. I am musing out loud here as I don't see a clear answer here and maybe there isn't one...hmmm.
The Devenish reference page ranges, are they chapters? Just looks odd how many go into pages 21-51. Is it worth splitting them up a bit?
Durst invited Korn to drink beer and tattoo the band members. - subjects confused here -the "tattoo the band members" is written so "Korn" is the subject of it, but should be Durst.
However, Borland left the band after a disagreement with Durst. - errr, why? better, can "creative differences" be embellished at all? If not, it's cool. Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:47, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
After a successful performance when they opened for Korn at the Dragonfly in Hollywood - "successful" is a funny word here, I mean a band doesn't "pass" or "fail" when it plays...I'd think a word like "impressive" is a better adjective (?)
While heading to California to record their first album, the band wrecked their van, leading Durst to rehire Borland - errr, why...because Borland had a van? But seriously, a reason here 'd be good.
Interscope proposed to the band that the label pay 5,000 - dollars I presume?
As a general statement, try to minimise repetition of common words such as "Durst" and the band's name if you can - I've got a few, adn a few more could be trimmed.
If you haven't seen User:Tony1/How to improve your writing, have a read now. I found it very helpful.
Several sexual assaults, that included but were not limited to rapes - the "but were not limited to" suggests there was worse than rape, but I can't figure out what that is supposed to mean. I'd leave those five words out.
Departure of Borland, hiatus and reunion (2002–2011) is a bit choppy - adding some information on why he left and returned would make it flow more smoothly. also note how para 2 reads like para 1.
Music and lyrics is also a bit choppy -- any other general discussion of band style, or of their influences and inspirations would be good here. yep, good.
Borland's visual style and guitar playing is the primary source of the band's fanbase - a pretty big statement to make...?
In the Live performances section - can we add any info on their best/worst tours?
I noticed a discussion on bootlegs above, I guess I'd think of a bootleg as notable if it had received some coverage and discussion (eg Durst or some rock critics particularly praising or damning it, and/or if it had been widely circulated). If there are none that fit, then that's fine.
Has anyone cited the band as an influence? Has any segment of their music been sampled in another notable song? Are there any notable devotees? If none to any of these, then that is ok.

Overall, promising - it is punctuated by some fun anecdotes and prose which make it a good read. I haven't looked at the refs - I don't often do band articles so am not too familiar with RS vs non RS sources. Anyway, let's see how we go with prose/comprehensiveness. Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:59, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

The chapters of the book are unnamed, that's why it's split that way. WTF (talk) 10:52, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

ok. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:19, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

PS: I am trying to give this article as hard a shove as possible in the direction of FAC, as I think that is a good destination. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:50, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Added some samples and covers. WTF (talk) 04:21, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

1. Well written?:

Prose quality:
Manual of Style compliance:

2. Factually accurate and verifiable?:

References to sources:
Citations to reliable sources, where required:
No original research:

3. Broad in coverage?:

Major aspects:
Focused:

4. Reflects a neutral point of view?:

Fair representation without bias:

5. Reasonably stable?

No edit wars, etc. (Vandalism does not count against GA):

6. Illustrated by images, when possible and appropriate?:

Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions: (Personality Rights tag noted on commons page of Fred Durst image, but is in a public place so consent unneeded) Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:53, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Overall:

Pass or Fail: -a nice read. Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:53, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Awards[edit]

There was a nice Awards chart before, what happened to it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xffactor (talkcontribs) 21:43, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

What happened to the genres?[edit]

One of rap rock/rapcore/rap metal should definitely be there. It could easily be argued that Limp Bizkit are more of a rap rock/rapcore band than a nu metal band. Metalfan72 (talk) 16:32, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Nevermind, I saw someone restored rap metal, thank you Metalfan72 (talk) 23:10, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

I think one of them will just do. Rap metal is good enough!31.59.63.124 (talk) 00:04, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

Guys, come on[edit]

You all know how bad this band are. Do the right thing. Undelete my edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.92.210.48 (talk) 22:38, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

The right thing is keeping it neutral and reliably sourced. Wikipedia's job is not to judge bands.--Jasper Deng (talk) 22:41, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Ok, but could someone please at least acknowledge how bad this band are?

No, unless you can show that the vast majority of reliable sources (including ones used in the article) say so. That is not possible and therefore we will not flat-out say "this band sucks".--Jasper Deng (talk) 22:58, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

No, I don't mean acknowledge how bad they are in the article. I meant in the talk section. What are your personal thoughts on the band? Although if reviews count as reliable sources then there probably are a great deal of reliable sources that back up the idea that this band are terrible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.92.210.48 (talk) 23:18, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

There is also a great deal of reviews that say they are an awesome band, you can't say they suck on a Wikipedia article because of the opinions of a few people. I am also personally a huge fan of the rap rock genre and a fan of Limp Bizkit. Metalfan72 (talk) 18:22, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

I'll be genuinely amazed if you can provide a like to even one professional review that says that Limp Bizkit are any good. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.92.210.48 (talk) 21:42, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Alternative metal[edit]

i'm removing it since A. it's unsourced and B. calling them alternative metal implies they sound similar to bands like tool & helmet which is completely inaccurate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by I call the big one bitey (talkcontribs) 00:21, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Just because a band is alternative metal, doesnt mean they sound like Tool and Helmet. Portillo (talk) 08:08, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Breakup Rumors[edit]

Fred Durst did an interview with Kerrang! (magazine) in which he said Limp Bizkit's time was over. This sparked a rumor on Twitter that the band is breaking up.

"In a recent interview, Fred Durst hinted that his band, Limp Bizkit, may be over, but he took to Twitter to clear up all the confusion, noting that the group, which recently signed to Lil Wayne’s Cash Money label, is not breaking up.

Durst reportedly told Kerrang! magazine that the band’s time is “over,” explaining that the group’s popularity has waned considerably in the U.S., which is why they haven’t toured here since 2006." [2]

Even though Durst should be believed when he says the band is still together, the fact that he addressed these rumors is significant enough to be included in the article on Limp Bizkit. Ibnsina786 (talk) 22:52, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

I thought there was a rule against rumors on Wikipedia. 24.9.253.197 (talk) 19:21, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Limp biscuit[edit]

I don't know what sources say or what the actual origin of the band name was, but there's an obvious connection one way or another. If Durst claims it's there to "repel listeners" and "every record label that showed an interest in the band pressured its members to change its name", it's obviously not because people are annoyed by the thought of wet snacks.

Soggy biscuit currently has a "for the band, see"-link leading here, while this article leaves out the obvious association in the other direction. And before quoting the already obvious parts of WP:V or WP:OR regarding this, take a few minutes whether readers are best served by having the connection mentioned or studiously ignored.

Peter Isotalo 11:50, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

  1. ^ http://www.blistering.com/fastpage/fpengine.php/templateid/9467/menuid/2/tempidx/4/link/1
  2. ^ ("The Celebrity Cafe" http://thecelebritycafe.com/feature/2012/08/limp-bizkit-s-fred-durst-denies-break-reports).