Talk:Link (The Legend of Zelda)

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edit·history·watch·refresh Stock post message.svg To-do list for Link (The Legend of Zelda):
  • Expand reception section
  • Copyedit, weed out any hidden unreferenced statements
  • Give references to "citation needed" phrases

Images (2009 discussion)[edit]

This article currently uses too many images of character artwork and no images of in-game depictions of Link, which in my opinion is more important to understanding the character. I suggest the following images be used:

  • Twilight Princess character artwork, due to being the most detailed.
  • Screenshot of a classic, top-down depiction of Link from original game with commentary on it being his first appearance.
  • Screenshot of Ocarina of Time with commentary on Link's first depiction in 3D.
  • Screenshot of Windwaker with commentary on the controversy of Link being cel-shaded.

I feel with these four images one conveys the most information with a justifiable number of free-use images. Opinions?--Remurmur (talk) 19:51, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

I would add the official artwork for TLoZ due to it the video game not being very detailed. It would also give a clear comparison to how the artwork has changed to Twilight Princess.Jinnai 03:59, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
I have edited and removed most of the images. I realize there was an older consensus on the Phantom of the Hourglass image being first, but a screenshot of the game would suffice for that or windwaker as the artstyles are different. However, for the infobox, the original creation is preferred. And for PotH a screenshot of the game could give the overall look of compared to what Links looks like currently.
Finally the number of artwork images did probably violate WP:FAIR USE.Jinnai 20:09, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
I disagree with using Twilight Princess over Phantom Hourglass. Phantom Hourglass shows a drastic design change while Twilight Princess shows merely a natural evolution of the character design. It gives readers less insight into the contents - on top of all that, we all know about how poorly received the design was (initially mostly), so once the reception section actually covers this reception, the cartoony Link design would fit in far more easily and be a better visual demonstration than the Twilight Princess Link. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 10:17, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
where is the cel-shaded wind waker link. i mean, everyone hated it, but i kind of liked it and its not like the guy talks much about himself. so if somebody wants to go crazy with images then i don't see the problem. 97.102.99.207 (talk) 09:10, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
I believe that the Phantom Hourglass artwork should be displayed in the infobox. As Phantom Hourglass is the newest released Zelda game, this version of Link would be the most recognizable. NintendoNerd777 (talk) 04:15, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
I disagree with the "newest should always come first". I think the image used in the lead is the best to use, and the Twilight Princess image should be replaced. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 05:11, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
I think there needs to be some old and some new. It should show the classic Link, like the lead image is now, but also show some new incarnations of Link, including a "cartoon-style Link", like in PH. Blake (Talk·Edits) 14:06, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Too much in-universe detail[edit]

There is too much plot detail on games Link is involved in. Would it be alright with you guys if I removed these irrelevant details?- (Wikipedian1234 (talk) 02:04, 23 September 2009 (UTC))

I think it would help if you changed it from focusing on the games story(like ALttP was) to more of what Link actually does in the game. After all, this is an article about Link, not the games he was in. I rewrote Mario's whole appearance section, because it was talking about the actual games, and diddnt focus on Mario. Blake (Talk·Edits) 03:02, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Name[edit]

What is the origin of the name Link? 169.233.59.10 (talk) 03:05, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

I am not sure if it says it in the article, but players were supposedly supposed to change his name. Link was the default because it was a link between the player and the game (or something like that). Blake (Talk·Edits) 03:07, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
Lincoln green?Notamisfit (talk) 09:20, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Not sure about this, but....[edit]

Considering that 2006 was the end of the sixth generation of games, shouldn't 2002-present be renamed 2002-2006 and there be a new section named 2007-present?--190.205.203.172 (talk) 17:01, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

When the Wii was released three years ago a new era in video gaming has been quite receptive since, therefore, 2002-present should be retitled 2002-2005; the newest section that I'd rather see proposed is 2006-present. Thoughts? Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 04:32, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
Actually, since the Xbox 360 was launched on May 2005, the new generation began then, not in 2006. Even the article here on wikipedia states "For home consoles, the seventh generation began on November 22, 2005 with the release of Microsoft's Xbox 360". So in any case it should be 2000-2004 and 2005-present. Yet I believe that it should be categorized according to the changes in the perception of Link, and as such it should be from the release of Twilight Princess (2006, which coincides with the Wii launch at laest year-wise)since it portrays the last incarnation of Link so far (Phantom Hourglass is just the continuation of the Wind Waker Link, not a "new" Link) . Veritiel (talk) 18:16, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Phrases[edit]

"no Zelda game to date has contained substantial spoken dialogue, the part consists only of short phrases, grunts, battle cries, and other sounds" What are the short phrases he's ever said? I can only think of "HI" (or more probably 'hai' in Japanese.) in windwaker. Even that's not a phrase. Just a word.129.139.1.68 (talk) 19:02, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

In Wind Waker, in the Tower of the Gods dungeon, Link yells "Come on!" to call a statue. Plus, Midna in Twilight Princess does have full dialogue, except it's all in "Twili", so we can't understand her. 72.241.19.67 (talk) 21:51, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Phrygian Cap[edit]

In this article by GamePro, they call his hat, the Phrygian Cap. I thought it was funny. http://www.gamepro.com/article/features/208935/video-game-hats-the-17-best-pieces-of-headwear-in-gaming/

Sincerely Subzerosmokerain (talk) 01:16, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Link references in other media[edit]

Link is referenced or spoofed in some way in media quite a bit, so surely it's worth mentioning in a paragraph? There's Linken in World of Warcraft Xandir in Drawn together I'm sure there're many more too...

It's not much but it explains Link's influence & popularity in modern media. --Kurtle (talk) 14:01, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

So long as citations are added to back up these claims, there shouldn't be a problem with setting it up. Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 02:44, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Twilight Princess[edit]

The Legend of Zelda's Chronology section says that TP is set centuries after OoT, not decades. That aside, TP is confirmed to be taking place in an alternate timeline, so it is not between OoT and Wind Waker. The information in the article is outdated. As Aonuma later said, "It is a world 100 and something years after Ocarina of Time. ... The Wind Waker is parallel. In Ocarina of Time, Link leaps to a world seven years later, defeats Ganon, and then returns to the child era, right? Twilight Princess is the world 100 and something years after peace is restored in the child era." 207.216.208.68 (talk) 21:05, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

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A few more sources that you might use for Reception[edit]

Via Internet Archive:

--Niemti (talk) 09:20, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Sidebar Image Description[edit]

The caption for the sidebar image states the picture is official artwork. I believe that particular image actually comes from a strategy guide and that the official artwork featured a much shorter Link. Or rather I should say at least the American manual booklet featured illustrations of a much shorter Link. I cannot provide proof of the strategy guide since the only scans I have ever found were of the cover and of that single image, which in no way proves the image is connected with the strategy guide. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.36.168.223 (talk) 16:54, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Machinima love affair inclusion[edit]

[Niemti] would like this line to be included in the article: "That same year, the relationship between Zelda and Link topped machinima.com's list of top love affairs in gaming.[1] I undid his edit because I do not find it notable enough to include. Niemti reverted me saying that its notable enough because the channel has 7 million subscribers. After, I will finish writing this topic I will revert Niemti again referring him to this talk page. The reason that I do not find this video and opinion notable enough to include.

  • The video has not a lot of views compared to a lot of of other videos on machinima. 363,316 at the moment that I am posting this. Its well below the top 300 videos on the channel.
  • The reception section has already a mention about the zelda and link relationship.
  • The reception section is already filled with many reliable sources. I do not see adding this video as part of the reception adding anything new too it.

However, I am more then willing to compromise or to just include it if there is another argument then that machine has over 7 million subscribers. Or if there is consensus by several contributers to put it in. NathanWubs (talk) 23:30, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Voice actor in Super Smash Bros 4[edit]

Nintendo released videos depicting the character's new appearances and moves in Super Smash Bros. 4 (Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Super Smash Bros. for Wii U) and it sounds like Link is being voiced by Akira Sasanuma. On one hand, it does make sense, given that his appearance is a combination of his Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword looks. On the other hand, I thought that Takashi Ohara would reprise the role. Do you have any confirmation about this? Leader Vladimir (talk) 23:39, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Images[edit]

Main image[edit]

Should we change the article's main image? As a videogame character, Link has undergone many changes, so perhaps the image should be from one of his most recent games. Leader Vladimir (talk) 00:06, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

I think we should keep the one we have for the very reason. He is constantly being redesigned, the infobox image would change constantly.Lucia Black (talk) 06:05, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
The pic we have now is from an old videogame, an outdated version. Mario, Sonic and a lot of other characters have pics that represent their most recent design. Even Zelda and Ganon have pics from their Twilight Princess versions. Why is Link the exception? Leader Vladimir (talk) 16:29, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
He isn't an exception; there is no rule that lead to Mario or Sonic's images to change. What leads them to change is the idea that images must be updated on a regular basis. Is the Link model used in the infobox so dated that using it in lieu of Twilight Princess or Skyward Sword Link is harmful? I don't think so.
To hijack the discussion, I do feel that Ocarina of Time Adult Link (shooting the arrow pose) should be added, and the cel-shaded Link image should be replaced by a comparison between the Space World incarnation of Link and an in-game depiction of cel-shaded Link from the GameCube edition of The Wind Waker. - New Age Retro Hippie (talk) (contributions) 12:30, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
We could have the image of all the Links to date that was featured in Hyrule Historia as the lead image (if it fits).Lucia Black (talk) 01:37, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
Can I see it? I just wanna see what it looks like before I agree. :v - New Age Retro Hippie (talk) (contributions) 06:48, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

@New Age Retro Hippie, Leader Vladimir: What do you think?Lucia Black (talk) 01:52, 24 February 2014 (UTC) I can't find one without it being on the cover of Hyrule Historia and as a complete image at the same time. If it could be modified, then perfect. but here's the image [1]. Let me know if its doable.Other images include some form of timeline with various Links on it.Lucia Black (talk) 06:55, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

I like it. It would enable us to use only one FU image. - New Age Retro Hippie (talk) (contributions) 02:13, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
Me too. It seems a good image to solve the impasse "classic vs. modern". Gabriel Yuji (talk) 02:32, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
Perhaps one more vote just to feel secure that this is a strong consensus. Also, not. So good at cropping. Images so perhaps someone with better experiance can.Lucia Black (talk) 07:51, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
I think it would look great. Leader Vladimir (talk) 15:23, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
@Leader Vladimir, Lucia Black, New Age Retro Hippie: - Done. « Ryūkotsusei » 20:20, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

gameplay shots[edit]

I think that now, we should worry about gameplay shots. I think we should have something from the original Zelda and Ocarina. Opinions? - New Age Retro Hippie (talk) (contributions) 20:56, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

I think we should have a side by side by side comparison of the original Legend of Zelda, Link (adult) in OoT as the first 3D legend of Zelda and Wind waker as the first (and possibly the only) 3D cel-shaded Legend of Zelda.Lucia Black (talk) 00:06, 25 February 2014 (UTC)