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Advertising[edit]

The main ways in which LinkedIn makes money are through various types of ad opportunities and through levels of service. I think this should be added into the text somewhere.

This article talks about advertising and how it works: [1] FactZebra (talk) 13:21, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

I think that a significant amount of their revenue comes from services to recruiters which have been gaining in popularity. I need to find some supporting material before adding that, though. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 22:49, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Security and Privacy Nullified by Sign-Up Design[edit]

As per sign up process for a newcomer, it is required to give full email address and its corresponding passwords. This allows LinkedIn to assess the account's address book directly to "suggest" people on the list to be invited to join the network. Needless to say, this level of authority is no different than the account's owner's, thus LinkedIn can log in, read, write, or change whatever with the email account. Only the dumbest of the dumb allows strangers to have the keys to his house, but this is how LinkedIn forces the signer to set up such! Use it at your expense!124.168.65.95 (talk) 22:35, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

This is not a requirement, but a tricky misconception of the interface which I've seen among many people over the past few months. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 22:48, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
In my case it was a requirement, definitely not a misconception. It wanted my email password, not any other so I did not proceed with that registration. For those who have several email accounts, one for private and one of those freebie ones that you only use for these networks it's probably alright, but keeping things separate can sometimes be confusing and a pain in the whatshisname. 144.136.192.10 (talk) 07:08, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
There should be a section in the article on privacy. This is definitely an area of concern with Linked-In. I don't have my -mail linked to them (they don't have my password), but if you do, it searches your contacts and e-mails, and any matches will show up in your list of recommended contacts, and apparently you will show up in those contacts' list of recommendations as well. Not good if that person is on less-than-amicable terms with you. Nerfer (talk) 16:26, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
Nerfer, I completely agree, which is why I thanked you for your comment in this section via WP:Echo much earlier today (April 13, 2014; non-Wikipedia time). Given the various complaints about LinkedIn's security when it comes to emails, as seen here and here on their own site, and the WP:Reliable sources out there that have reported on it, something about this should definitely be in the LinkedIn Wikipedia article. Flyer22 (talk) 00:51, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Membership section[edit]

I'm not a Wikipedia member, so I'm not completely au fait with the editting policy.

The section states that there are 11 million members in Europe, with the Netherlands growing at the fastest rate (outside the US). The UK is quoted as having 4million members, but then later the figure is quoted as 11 million.

Could someone pick this up, and at least tidy the section so it isn't directly contradictory. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.86.70.217 (talk) 19:49, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

The lower figures were older; I deleted them in favor of the 2013 stats. -- Beland (talk) 19:59, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Criticisms and controversies[edit]

LinkedIn's Wiki needs a "Criticisms and controversies" section (similar to Facebook's Wikipedia page [Wiki]), because currently this Wiki appears to have been written with bias, seeming like a LinkedIn representative wrote most of it.

The main topics to cover would be:

  • LinkedIn's use of email address mining. LinkedIn has been sued for accessing users' email addresses by requesting their email passwords, then using those passwords to access their email contact lists and sending join requests to those contacts [1].
  • LinkedIn's use of Site Wide Auto-Moderation (SWAM). This LinkedIn policy automatically blacklists users from LinkedIn groups and offers limited recourse for appeals when a user is wrongly blacklisted [2].
  • LinkedIn's use of “People You May Know” email solicitation. LinkedIn generates lists of people that non-users may know based on email addresses that they have mined and then creates join requests which appear to be from those people, even though those people may not even be LinkedIn users [3]. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CherubCow (talkcontribs) 04:12, 16 April 2014‎ (UTC)
  1. ^ Geuss, Megan (21 September 2013). "LinkedIn sued by users who say it hacked their e-mail accounts". arstechnica. Retrieved 16 April 2014. 
  2. ^ Macpherson, Sholto (21 August 2013). "LinkedIn’s ‘Blacklist’ Censors Thousands of Legitimate Users". Box Free It. Retrieved 16 April 2014. 
  3. ^ Macri, Giuseppe (21 February 2014). "How LinkedIn creates fake accounts for your contacts, and uses you to solicit them into joining". Daily Caller. Retrieved 16 April 2014. 

Economic Graph[edit]

I suggest that a section on LinkedIn's "economic graph" project be added to the article, as LinkedIn execs have been quoted as stating that the initiative is a critical element of the company's plans and how they are organizing. Rather than touching the page directly I'm making the suggestion here as I am not NPOV on LinkedIn. I work for an agency that supports LinkedIn's communications team. I've drafted up a shot at suggested language with citations for an additional subsection on the economic graph that could be placed within the "Features" section - below. If anyone who regularly edits the page would be willing to look it over, work with me on any changes to make it best suited to improving the page's value, and then make the update on my behalf, I'd be extremely grateful.

Economic Graph

LinkedIn CEO Jeff Weiner stated in November 2012 that the company's vision for the next decade is to construct an "economic graph." The company describes the economic graph as a comprehensive digital map of the global economy and the connections therein. (ZDNet) Using open-source data technologies (TC) and a growing collection of member data, LinkedIn's hope is that over time it becomes a graph of every professional, company, job, (BI) skill, and educational institution in the world. (Forbes)

According to Weiner, the initiative's ultimate goal is "to remove as much friction from that graph as possible, to allow human and economic capital to flow where it's most needed." (BI) Over time, the economic graph might be able to identify skills gaps between companies and workers, and help bridge these gaps to reduce unemployment. (CNBC) As an example, Weiner outlined how a growing company might use the economic graph to evaluate workforce skills in a certain area. With this knowledge, the company could then promote resources to foster needed skills in potential future employees. (CNET)

Sources

MaryGaulke (talk) 18:54, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

MaryGaulke (talk) 14:06, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
Does this actually exist, or is it just strategic at this point? I ask b/c at Wikipedia we do not do WP:CRYSTALBALL. I reckon it could go in some kind of section called "Projects in Development" or "Pipeline" but then we would want to say something about its actual status. Right now the draft is just talk/hype and we don't do that here. Those are my thoughts. Jytdog (talk) 03:30, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for your read on this, Jytdog. I took a closer look at WP:CRYSTALBALL and see your point. I do think the initiative itself probably meets the Crystal Ball standard, as some of the pieces are now being publicly discussed in some detail. While the digital mapping of the global economy isn't complete or launched yet and is a bit speculative on detail, it seems to be verifiable that the overall Economic Graph project initiative has started and is going to be a long-term push. It may "launch" formally one day, but ultimately, as they enhance products and services today they're doing so with this end goal in mind.
I agree that in light of all that it might make most sense to place the description of the Economic Graph under a new page section rather than within the "Features" section. Google does this with a "2013 onward" subsection under History - how about if we did the same with this?
Let me know what you think, and again, thanks for helping out. Mary Gaulke (talk) 15:55, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
sounds like we can get to the same page here. happy. do you mind proposing content to describe the product more, and what they actually have in hand? thanks. In the last sentence of the first paragraph, I don't much like the phrase "LinkedIn's hope". Linkedin has stated what they intend to include in the near term and longer term; and the project description should be clear on that. can you please describe that too, with sources? finally, i don't intend to use the 2nd paragraph as is which I view as all crystal-ballish/hype-y about what the ultimate product may do, but rather just reduce that to something like "with the goal of making the job market more efficient by providing more transparency" or the like. thanks! Jytdog (talk) 16:31, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
Thank you again for your feedback and for pinpointing precisely which points merited revision. To simplify things, I've incorporated your edits and requests into a new draft, below. I've cut most of what was in the second paragraph, but also fleshed out several points about what's currently in the graph and what's in the works, according to LinkedIn. A few of the new citations refer to official LinkedIn sources - I hope that's alright. My goal was to keep those citations to fairly basic information, so that bias would be less of a concern.
I'd love to hear your thoughts on the new draft - I think you've helped us push it to be a lot stronger.
Economic Graph
LinkedIn CEO Jeff Weiner stated in November 2012 that the company's vision for the next decade is to construct an "economic graph." The company describes the economic graph, in its finalized form, as a comprehensive digital map of the global economy and the connections therein. (ZDNet 1) The project is an evolution of LinkedIn's current platform rather than a totally separate endeavor. (LI Today) At present the graph is composed of LinkedIn’s network of professionals, companies, jobs, (BI 1) skills (Forbes), volunteer opportunities (TC), educational institutions (NPR) and content (Forbes). While these nodes already exist, LinkedIn’s long-term plan is to make the graph comprehensive in each of those categories, worldwide. (LI Today) As of May 2014, LinkedIn has more than 300 million members (BI 2), 3.5 million company profiles, more than 300,000 jobs, more than 3 billion endorsements, more than 24,000 schools, and billions of network updates. (LI SlideShare)
Most recently, the company designed its "Galene" search architecture as a way of giving users access to the economic graph's data. LinkedIn has stated that Galene will enable more thorough filtering of data, via user searches like "Engineers with Hadoop experience in Brazil." (VB, ZDNet 2) Other supporting developments include additional data provided by new and current users (LI blog) and new nodes (the Volunteer Marketplace (TC) and university pages (NPR)) for gathering other categories of information. According to Weiner, the initiative's ultimate goal is to make the global economy (with a focus on the job market) more efficient through increased transparency. (BI)
Sources
Mary Gaulke (talk) 18:34, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Yes check.svg Done Jytdog (talk) 21:19, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Mobile app and Official sites[edit]

The linked in mobile app references "linkd.in" web address in the read more section. Is this an official site or partner of linked in? Its unsettling that 10M people have downloaded the app but the documentation does not reference the official site.

Its been a while since I have posted anything, at least I remembered the tildes! Fozforic (talk) 14:13, 17 August 2014 (UTC)