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Misleading image[edit]

The image of the woman before and after liposuction is misleading. The background is white on one side and black on the other, and the black side makes her look thinner than she actually is. If you look carefully you can see that it has been coloured in because the original shadowed area is still visible in the same position as it was on the white side. In other words the photo has been shopped. 82.30.13.134 (talk) 17:29, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

furthermore i do not understand which side is "before" and which side is "after" (for real) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.21.205.126 (talk) 21:44, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

"As shown previously..."[edit]

The first sentace of the 4th paragraph begins with "As shown previously..." What is this referring to? There is nothing in the article that "shows" that reports of 50+ pounds being removed are exaggerated. This and a few other spots in this article make me think that much of this info was copy/pasted from another source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.180.230.178 (talk) 22:41, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

No kidding. The last two thirds of the article reads like it came almost directly from a lonnnnnnnng pamphlet in a cosmetic surgeon's waiting room. Why on earth is this article giving us the fine details on how to prepare for liposuction? Last I checked, this is an encyclopaedia, not PubMed. 65.189.147.101 (talk) 07:14, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Yup - I stumbled over that too. It needs to be sorted out, either by a citation and rewording, or restructuring the paragraph. I'll take a crack at the latter approach to get the ball rolling. Xarqi (talk) 01:44, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Do you realize that this link is here?[edit]

In the laser-assisted section, the company "Cynosure" is mentioned as the manufactuer of a laser device used in a variation of laser liposuction. The term is linked to an article for this entry:

Cynosure is also the name of a common ground-like plane in the Forgotten Realms''''Cynosure is the name of a fictional pan-dimensional city that exists within the First Comics multiverse. It is described as floating in a "bubble" in the "pan-dimensional vortex." Because of its unique situation, Cynosure is an important center of multi-versal commerce and much of the city's government is geared toward maintaining favorable trading conditions.

Are you kidding me?!!!? 149.2.82.2 (talk) 20:29, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

dangers[edit]

Someone should talk about the dangers of Liposuction here as well. Antonio BDSM Master Martin

I posted an article yesterday that goes into detail about the side effects and potential complications. It follows what was the stub. Should I have removed the stub?

Someone has changed my Liposuction heading to History. My article begins with that heading.

This is my first attempt to contribute anything to Wikipedia and I'm still very ignorant about how to do it. Learning as I go here. I want to make this article into editable sections but haven't yet figured out how to do that. Now it's 11:30 pm, so I'll have to try on Wed. evening May 10. Jenny305@earthlink.net —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pinkgalah (talkcontribs) 9 May 2006

To make sections, use the section tags (i.e. ==). For nested sections, use more = signs. For example:
==Main section==
===Subsection===
And it will render like you see it in the article. By the way, I just cleaned up the whole article so you don't have to. But you can look at the source to see how I did the sections. — Frecklefoot | Talk 17:57, 9 May 2006 (UTC)


Cleaned it up, eh? The latest edition of the article is a bloody mess. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.73.222.11 (talk) 12:32, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

clots.. of fat![edit]

Has fat embolisation ever been reported? i can't see why it should happen - it occurs when long bones are shattered, not from someone rummaging around in adipose tissue. THe phrase about clots forming around the area operated and then getting into the circulation suggests to me that whoever wrote it does not understnad venous trhomboembolism at all either. I've not got actual figures for VTE/DVT/PE with liposuction. If it is done under local I'd assume people can wriggle a bit, so it is low risk, even if they are - one assumes - not slim to start with. Midgley 23:02, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

lots ... of sources coming[edit]

I've been busy and haven't come back here to finish posting this article properly. I'll work next on giving sources. Pinkgalah 03:09, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

I provided some sources and will give more shortly. Pinkgalah 23:00, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Cost[edit]

I came here looking for information on the costs involved with liposuction. And perhaps whether liposcution is covered by health plans.

I would add the information myself if I knew the answers.

Probably not appropriate in a Wikipedia article--costs vary between providers/plans let alone countries. Seems like it'd be turning this into an ad for liposuction rather than an article of information on it.
-Rj101 05:27, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
I agree. Though I think I copyedited that section (and others), I thought it was an inappropriate topic for an encyclopedia. Costs change and vary too much for us to give any estimates or reliable information. — Frecklefoot | Talk 14:27, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
Perhaps a ballpark figure, or an average statistical cost for a given year would suffice.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.75.199.119 (talkcontribs)
No, I don't think an encyclopedia is an appropriate place for prices for such procedures. They vary too much, from area to area, from type to type. If we did include such information, there is no way we could guarentee it is at all accurate. Covering the general topics of the procedures is the correct scope for this article. — Frecklefoot | Talk 20:29, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Emulsifier[edit]

I was convinced that some sort of surfactant was also added to the fluid in liposuction, but I don't find any references to this being done. Can anyone confirm this? --Slashme 11:04, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Pictures[edit]

I think the addition of before/after pictures would improve the article, and also pictures of some of the machinery used in the procedure.

Sources[edit]

I originally wrote this article and have been busy with other things since May. But I'd like to provide the missing sources ASAP. I'll try to finish it this week before I leave for Australia; otherwise, will finish it in late January or Feb. Pinkgalah 19:45, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm confused at which sources were used because I read some info that was a bit contradictory.

In the intro, the article states: "The amount of fat removed varies by doctor, method, and patient, but the average amount is typically less than 10 pounds (5 kg)."

Yet, under Popularity, the article states that: In the U.S., around 65% of the population is overweight. So it should not be surprising that liposuction is now the most often performed surgery in the country.[citation needed] Usually it is done to remove about 10 to 15 pounds of fat.

So while "the average amount is typically less than 10 pounds", liposuction is also "done to remove about 10 to 15 pounds of fat." It doesn't really make sense to me. --Yournombrehere 17 January 2007

You're right, the article is in a sad state right now. — Frecklefoot | Talk 16:11, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Ultrasound lipo[edit]

I was rummaging around the net when I found a bit of info about ultrasound lipo. The section is very small in wikipedia so info there but I found a company Ultrashape ( http://www.ultrashape.com/ ). They say they've been featured on an irish show. Here's the video: http://www.ultrashape.com/data/uploads/Video/TV3%20Ireland%20AM%20LOW%20Band.wmv Something the doctor says in that video feels fishy to me. He says the fat tissue is destroyed permanently because fat cells are not produced in the body instead the old ones grow and they're killing the old ones.--Energman 13:06, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Engerman: That's actually true. Almost any surgeon will tell you that. And there are numerous cosmetic surgeons who offer ultrasound assisted lipo. I don't believe that being featured on TV makes them more credible than any other provider. It isn't hard for them to get on TV. -New User —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.2.82.2 (talk) 18:44, 28 January 2008 (UTC) -If some wants to put it up, I found a good article (see reference below) that wikipedia could cite while reading "Sonoluminescence: How bubbles turn Sound into Light", by S.J Putterman and K.R. Weninger. Though Putterman's article makes an interesting points about ultrasonic liposuction relationship with sonoluminescence I though that the reference below would be more relevant, -Weninger KR, Camara C, Putterman SJ. 1999a. Physical acoustics of ultrasound assisted liposuction. In press. 128.61.93.31 (talk) 13:07, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

What the!?[edit]

I don't know what's wrong, but this article will not let me revert on it. --Abce2|AccessDenied 19:48, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism?[edit]

The mouseover text on the 31 May 2010 episode of Dinosaur Comics (http://www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=1723) mentions that there are zero Google search results for "laser thigh surgery". The next day 130.243.175.198 added the phrase to the "Laser assisted liposuction" section. A Google search now finds only references to Dinosaur Comics and the new text from the article. Is this subtle vandalism? --98.246.182.140 (talk) 06:44, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

areas affected[edit]

The overview states that fat is removed "from many different sites on the human body" particularly "the abdomen, thighs and buttocks," ... "the neck, backs of the arms and elsewhere". But does the concerned fat have to be subcutaneous? Or can the cannula enter somehow the greater omentum? --91.120.150.162 (talk) 16:37, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Section on ineffectiveness of liposuction for overall health[edit]

I'm referring to http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa033179 which states "[a]bdominal liposuction does not significantly improve obesity-associated metabolic abnormalities. Decreasing adipose tissue mass alone will not achieve the metabolic benefits of weight loss." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shawmutt (talkcontribs) 16:32, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Fat level after liposuction[edit]

It would be beneficial if the article included a section describing what happens after liposuction. Liposuction removes not only fat but also fat cells. Does this mean that after liposuction people tend to remain thinner since the fat cells are no longer there to absorb calories and produce fat? Or, assume no change to diet, do remaining fat cells in those locations do what they can to recreate the fat storage as before? Or is more subcutaneous fat generated in other parts of the body, where fat cells remain, to compensate for the lost capacity of the removed cells?

Having some information on the long-term prognosis post operation would be an extremely useful addition to this article. FreeFlow99 (talk) 13:15, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Reassessment[edit]

This article was assessed as B-class in February, 2008. I've re-assessed it as Start-class, as it's full of poor prose, unreferenced assertions, and prescriptive advice. -- Mikeblas (talk) 02:39, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

Introduction[edit]

Should not be a scare paragraph. 79.241.81.17 (talk) 17:39, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

It was suggested recently that a page I created for a type of liposuction procedure called SAFELipo be merged with the current liposuction page. The 'SAFE' portion is an acronym identifying the 3-step process of the procedure: S-Separation A-Aspiration FE-Fat Equalization

I believe this would be a good addition to the list of liposuction techniques and is contextual under the liposuction topic. At the current length (400 words) this would be a fairly detailed description of the technique compared to the others. Etna-research (talk) 16:48, 10 April 2014 (UTC)