Talk:List of Alien characters

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Table?[edit]

I'd suggest a table is more appropriate for the film page (for example [1] [2]) linking the character name through to here with a longer description. Without the headers there is no way to link directly to the specific character making this page less useful. One could swap the information at e.g. here to this entry and turn that section into a table then flesh things out here. That'd be my preference. (Emperor 00:29, 20 January 2007 (UTC))

That sounds like a very good idea to me. Do you want to move it? I just thought I would be bold and see what people thought of a table. - Zepheus <ツィフィアス> 00:42, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
I'll sort it out now as I'm around. (Emperor 01:11, 20 January 2007 (UTC))
All done (although looking at the other examples it should be actor then role on the film page as it is Cast while this is characters - I'll sort it out in a mo). It will be easy enough to convert the [Aliens (film)#Cast and characters|Aliens cast] into a table and Alien³ is already in table form so all that needs doing is linking through to the right sections here when they are created. That will make the first 3 films consistent with cast format. Alien: Resurrection doesn't have a cast list so once the first three are sorted out it'll be easy enough to sort out the cast and the sections here at the same time. (Emperor 01:45, 20 January 2007 (UTC))
OK changes to the Alien (film) entry got reverted. I'd still argue that if a table is going to be used it should be over there. I'm just not sure how to progress so I'll leave it for a bit and see what people think before making any big changes like that. (Emperor 02:43, 20 January 2007 (UTC))
Okay. That's also fine with me. Personally, I don't think it's terrible important that other pages link directly to the subsection for the character, such as List of characters in the Alien series#Ash. I think it's better to simply link to the movie's heading such as List of characters in the Alien series#Aliens. At this point, the subsections are so small, it's seems a little pointless. I'm not sure how much this page is expected to grow though. - Zepheus <ツィフィアス> 02:54, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
I do think it is important to be able to link in here from other places (films, the actors, other places that discuss them, etc.), especialy as a lot of entries have been merged into this one, and the page as it stands is just an outline - there is quite a bit of information that can be integrated in here from them. I suppose the issue is that Wikipedia would rather avoid tables and lists when the information can be rendered in prose. (Emperor 03:07, 20 January 2007 (UTC))

Crowe[edit]

Crowe has one line in the movie. Wierzbowski is the only one who doesn't speak. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.148.113.246 (talk) 18:35, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

He screams.Green Kirby 02:38, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
What is this single line Crowe has? Assuming we're not counting his little yelp (it can hardly be considered a scream) before he hit the wall and broke his neck. He apparently had one (talking over radio) in a very early script but the script changed between the version I've seen online and the final version that was in the film, and it ended up being that Crowe died a little earlier in the final version and never had an opportunity to say the line I've seen scripted for him. Is he one of the ones involved in the banter when they're eating on the Sulaco, or is he the one who cries out "Frost?!" just before he gets killed, or is there some line somewhere else that I'm just not thinking of? If he's not the one who cries out "Frost?!" then who is that? I was under the impression it was either him or Wierzbowski, who apparently has no lines in the film at all, though again he did have one in an earlier script that eventually went to Hudson. Dalimyr (talk) 20:47, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

After Frost says "I've got a bad feeling about this drop." while in the dropship Crowe responds: "You always say that Frost, you always say you've got a bad feeling." Or something similar to that.144.135.180.109 (talk) 11:12, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Morse[edit]

I've removed the sentence about Morse having a pact with God. I believe when Dillon made that remark, he was reminding Morse and the others that no one lives forever. Teflon Don (talk) 19:18, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

vasquez and drake[edit]

drake and vasquez did spend most of their lives together in juvenile prison. it's in the novelization. 72.148.113.246 (talk) 04:33, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Style[edit]

Many of these character descriptions are NPOV and lacking in style: for eg, certain adjectives have a subtle or generally more exclusive meaning and can be misleading. I've just done a quick edit on Lambert - I think some of the others could use the same input and would welcome any comments or suggestions. Plutonium27 (talk) 12:35, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Golic[edit]

The article currently reads "The fate of Golic in the director's cut of Alien 3 is unknown, as he is not seen to meet his demise at the hands of the Alien on screen.", however I'm not sure that's entirely true. You don't see him getting killed by the alien, but later on in the film it is hinted very strongly that he was killed in the darkness of the waste tank. Morse says they've got a problem, and there's a scene where he, Aaron, Ripley and Dillon go to the waste tank, where they find Arthur's body, and someone (Aaron?) says "Fucking great! The miserable, crazy son of a bitch let it loose. Got what he fucking deserved.". It is highly unlikely these comments are about Arthur, so they must be about Golic, surely? Dalimyr (talk) 02:03, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Ripley #8[edit]

....I'm no expert, but I suspect that Ripley #8 probably had an "empathic" link to the rest of the hive, rather than an "emphatic" link....It might be emphatically empathic....I dunno...it is all a load of old bullshit, after all... 82.5.68.95 (talk) 03:27, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

If you notice a small error in the article such as this (spelling, grammar), please feel free to boldly fix it. --IllaZilla (talk) 06:40, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Bishop II[edit]

Here is information from the now retired Bishop (Aliens) article. I attempted to merge this information with the list, but there are some discrepancies. For instance the list says that this character told others who he was, and that he was not an android, while this information clearly says otherwise. I don't have the sources to manage the discrepancies so I leave this here for editors to do with what they will.

In the final scene, a squad of Weyland-Yutani soldiers arrives to retrieve Ripley. With them is a man identical to the android Bishop, also played by Lance Henriksen and listed in the film's credits as "Bishop II". Ripley believes him to be another android; Bishop II claims to be the man who designed the Bishop series, sent by the company to show Ripley "a friendly face." Mr. Aaron (Ralph Brown) attacks Bishop II with a monkey wrench, calling him a "fucking android". The "Assembly Cut" released with the Alien Quadrilogy boxed set in 2003 shows Bishop II bleeding and groaning, with additional footage of the flap of ear and skin hanging from his face. He reasserts that he is human by screaming, "I'm not a droid!" to Ripley. This portion, however, was cut from the film's theatrical release. In Alan Dean Foster's Alien 3 novelization, the character is named "Michael Bishop" and indicated to be a human.[1] According to Henriksen, the studio at the time kept the issue open as to whether Bishop II was human or android because they did not yet know what they would do with his character in the future.[2] Henriksen believes Bishop II was an "advanced model" android.[2]

Cliff (talk) 20:35, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

How I (and probably others) wish this had been followed up instead of the mess we have now. According to the books and games and non canon (aka film) sources the Bishop in AVP is the only "real" Bishop and all the rest are copies who act as Bishop. Androids with Bishop's memories implanted (Blade Runner reference) with increasing sophistication over time. It is implied generally, and only in once instance specifically stated that this reason,( Bishop is an immortal of a sort ) is why there is an Alien on the Sulaco in Alien 3. The Android contained the memories of AVP Bishop, and carried it's own programming and desire to obtain the specimen. What this does not answer is why didn't the Android Bishops just go to Antartica? In any case, this is where the "character of Bishop" currently is in the books, comics, and games. Not canon, but worth mentioning. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.88.168.34 (talk) 13:37, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Ash[edit]

The article states that Ash is revealed to be an android once Parker severs his head. He is shown to have white blood prior to this point. While this does not show Ash's nature as an android, it does indicate that he is not human, which is the more important quality.50.147.26.108 (talk) 04:37, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

When is he "shown to have white blood prior to this point"? If I recall correctly, he sweats a bit of white stuff while he's attacking Ripley. Then Parker comes in & bashes his head off. This all happens within about 30 seconds. --IllaZilla (talk) 05:48, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
What does the length of time have to do with the fact that Ash is revealed to be inhuman prior to his decapitation?50.147.26.108 (talk) 22:57, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
    • ^ Foster, Alan Dean (1993-10-13). The Complete Alien Omnibus. Time Warner Paperbacks. p. 648. ISBN 978-0751506679. The pipe landed hard on Bishop II's head. The impact was spongy. The man staggered, twitching, and his troops shot the acting superintendent down. Real blood poured from Bishop II's cracked skull. 'I am... not a... droid,' the bleeding figure mumbled in surprise as it crumpled to the floor. 
    • ^ a b Horn, Steven (2004-05-11). "Interview: Lance Henriksen". IGN. Retrieved 2008-07-28.