Talk:List of Governors of Arkansas

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Untitled[edit]

I removed the word "acting" from Bob Riley and Joe Purcell's names. Their terms were short (Riley had two weeks, and Purcell had five days) but each were sworn in as Governor. They each have portraits in the State Capitol.

John S. Phelps says he served as 'military governor of Arkansas'; was this only as head of the military district, or what? --Golbez 20:26, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Notes and Todos[edit]

This is close to being ready for FLC but a few issues need to be resolved:

  1. The intro. FLC time! --Golbez 20:59, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
  2. The dates for the territorial governors. This is resolved as best it can be. --Golbez 12:40, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
  3. The difference between acting and serving; the Lt Gov website says Riley and Purcell *acted* as Governor. Until told otherwise, assuming that is a semantic issue due to their short terms. --Golbez 13:40, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

--Golbez 11:22, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

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Content issue[edit]

No, Arkansas has considered every one of them to be governors. We've had a lot more acting governors than those listed. Many lieutenant governors have been acting governors for brief periods when the governors were occupied, hospitalized, etc. When Tucker got busted, Huckabee did not become acting governor. He became governor. Where do you get the idea that he had simply been an acting governor at that point? (Yes, he got elected later. But whatever applied to him before election applied to those others.) Look at the history of this article.[1] It counted them all until Mike used the number 44 out loud. Doczilla (talk) 05:43, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

From the Arkansas state government's website: Francis Adam Cherry 35th governor. That number does not fit the numbering that would make Mike 44th.[2] I already sought a compromise by inserting the word elected after the Huckabee=44 numbers instead of reverting them to the article's previous version of those numbers. Because Arkansas uses both sets of numbers in different documents, we therefore must strive for accuracy. Doczilla (talk) 05:49, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
As stated elsewhere in the article, the distinction is before vs. after 1925, when the office of lieutenant governor was created. (Amendment 6 was actually enacted earlier, but due to an unrelated legal issue was not deemed enacted until then.) As the Arkansas Supreme Court ruled in Bryant v. English, when the lieutenant governor fills a permanent vacancy in the office of governor, he BECOMES governor (NOT acting governor) for the remainder of the term; at any other time (i.e., a temporary vacancy *OR* someone OTHER than the lieutenant governor, most commonly the president of the Senate--still called by that name in some parts of the Constitution, though the lieutenant governor actually presides and later constitutional provisions use the more accurate "president pro tempore"), it's just acting governor until an election can be held for a new governor. Before 1925, only the "acting governor" scenario was possible.
Finally, for pure sanity reasons, only acting governors that filled *permanent* vacancies in the governor's office should be listed here. (This hasn't happened since 1925. It CAN still happen if BOTH the governor's AND lieutenant governor's offices become permanently vacant, but that's unlikely except right at the end of the term, as when Win Paul Rockefeller died, or if both die in the same catastrophe. Otherwise, the LtGov-turned-Gov will call an election for his replacement as LtGov, which is how both Mike Huckabee and Win Paul first became LtGov.) In Arkansas, any time the governor even sets foot outside the state, his office is temporarily vacant and the LtGov becomes acting governor until he returns; if the LtGov also leaves the state it devolves to the Senate president pro-tem (Senate president before 1925), then to the speaker of the House. Thus, counting every person who EVER served as acting governor of Arkansas would overwhelm the article with trivia. --RBBrittain (talk) 20:26, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Riley & Purcell[edit]

According to the Constitution of Arkansas, Purcell and Riley served as Governors of Arkansas; not just Lieutenant Governors performing duties as Acting Governors. Why are they not listed & numbered properly? GoodDay (talk) 20:00, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

It's confusing - Riley & Purcell only asssume gubernatoral duties as Acting Governors, when their respective Governors resigned; yet, Tucker & Huckabee became Governors, when their respective Governors (i.e. bosses) resigned. Very confusing. GoodDay (talk) 13:43, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
In a sense, BOTH are correct. Riley & Purcell were each legally deemed governors, NOT acting governors, though each only served a few days; the Arkansas Supreme Court used their status when ruling in Bryant v. English (1992), which I just added as a reference to my correction, that Jim Guy Tucker would become governor (NOT acting governor) once Bill Clinton resigned to become president. (The decision was rendered after Clinton won the presidency, but he held up his resignation until after the ruling.) Unfortunately, that decision was rendered before that court started publishing its decisions online, so I can only provide the legal citation. (Translated to ordinary English, it means Arkansas Reports, vol. 311, p. 187, or Southwestern Reporter 2nd Series, vol. 843, p. 308). However, the most common method of numbering Arkansas governors covers only those elected to the office, so Riley & Purcell are excluded (but not Tucker & Mike Huckabee, each of whom was later elected as governor). --RBBrittain (talk) 20:08, 14 September 2008 (UTC)