Talk:List of Joseph Smith's wives

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Merge[edit]

Louisa Beaman was recently changed to a stub, where it previously had been a redirect to List of Joseph Smith's wives. As there really isn't much there that isn't/can't be said on Beaman's entry at ..List of Joseph Smith's wives.., I don't see a reason why we should have a stand alone article for her. -- 208.81.184.4 (talk) 20:14, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

  • Merge - I agree there isn't a reason why we should have a stand alone article for her.--ARTEST4ECHO (talk/contribs) 15:53, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
  • Do not Merge. I do not agree that there should be a merge. This article can be fleshed out. It currently has additional information than the information in the List of Joseph Smith's wives article. There is more to Louisa Beaman than being a wife. She lived in Palmyra at the time Joseph Smith got the gold plates. At one point he hid those plates in her family's home. We need this "stub" as a catalyst for contributors to this important article. Loveonearth (talk) 18:05, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
  • Separate topics so separate articles. Maybe if literally the only thing she was known for was a relationship to JS, then maybe-- but that's not the case here-- subject is notable beyond her role as a wife to JS. (e.g. She was also a wife to Brigham Young, for example). --HectorMoffet (talk) 22:03, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
  • Strong Merge - I have always thought that merely being someone's partner shouldn't merit a stand-alone article...especially when so much time has gone by and nothing has been added. Best, A Sniper (talk) 06:29, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
  • Merge. Agree that there's nothing much that merits a separate article. The names of the plural wives should redirect to this article, unless they are independently notable for another reason. Beaman is not. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:14, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Done. -- 208.81.184.4 (talk) 18:45, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Sarah Ann Whitney merge[edit]

Being a child of someone that is notable, or being the spouse of someone that is notable, doesn't then make an individual notable too (see: wp:Notability (people) & wp:NOTINHERITED). See nothing in the Sarah Ann Whitney article indicating that she is notable. I suggest that the bulk of the article be merged here, with the information about her later marriage to Heber C. Kimball move to that article. -- 208.81.184.4 (talk) 18:35, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Go for it. Sounds like a great idea to me. Thanks for discussing your idea first, though. --Jgstokes (talk) 06:22, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
I agree--- ARTEST4ECHO(Talk) 21:00, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
Done--- ARTEST4ECHO(Talk) 21:14, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

Minor Issue: "Quorum"[edit]

This is a minor issue, but it might matter for non-Mormon readers. Currently the first sentence says, "During his lifetime, Smith and the leading quorums of his church publicly denied he taught or practiced it." This is an uncommon use of the word "quorum" and it is possible that only Mormons will understand the sentence easily. Perhaps "council", "committee", or "other leadership" would be more appropriate. Otherwise, the word should be a link to an explanation.Rscragun (talk) 21:04, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Quorums is the correct usage, and we have an article describing the Latter Day Saint usage of the term, so added the wikilink to it. -- 208.81.184.4 (talk) 00:11, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Updates from LDS Church[edit]

Gaijin42 (talk) 20:33, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Nothing new or groundbreaking, other than the LDS Church is publicly acquiescing to much of what historians and scholars in Mormon studies have been publishing for many years about Joseph Smith's wives. This new development adds more to a relatively new chapter in the complicated relationship between Mormonism and history, and info about this recent event would belong on that article, along with info about the other semi-recent "Gospel Topics" articles about difficult/controversial subjects. Asterisk*Splat 22:21, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
I removed self-referencing links to Marinda Johnson Hyde, and also slightly revised the Orson Hyde article today in light of a mention of the new LDS position that I mentioned in that talk page. Frankly, I don't understand why these incomplete entries are in this article, except to acknowledge at least rumors questioning the paternity of Hyde's children. The program that I heard acknowledged that some of Smith's wives were child brides, as well as that some (presumably others) had been married to other men, which caused probblems in developing Mormon theology, but I don't have time for the research.Jweaver28 (talk) 22:11, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

Re Todd Compton's status w rgd list[edit]

...see opening cmt @ Talk:Todd Compton#Status @ lede as current go-to expert on JS wives.--Hodgdon's secret garden (talk) 23:24, 8 December 2014 (UTC)