Talk:List of Māori waka

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Return trips presented as facts[edit]

This article presents the idea of multiple return trips as fact when in fact it is speculation.In modern times various folk have copied the old voyages but in every case the authenticty of the trip has been compromised-ie one Waka had a 9.9HP yamaha outboard,one was made of fibreglass,most use modern food,some use synthetic sails and ropes-one was even caughton video by the RNZAF being towed by its escort ship,nearly all had radios to get weather forecasts and most carried modern navigation equipment on board .Most of the date on Pacific voyaging is romance and speculation with the same vague notions being endlessly repeated.Undoubtedly Polynesians did wander around the Pacific.The only hard evidence that Polynesins came to NZ and then left is a few bits of obsidian found in islands north of NZ but there is no guarantee that these were not placed there later.Was it really nz obsidian? Claudia jan 2011 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.237.37.160 (talk) 03:59, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Interesting angle. Accounts of canoes going between New Zealand and Hawaiki can be found in many traditions across New Zealand. Whether or not these return voyages actually happened is a matter for multi-disciplinary research. First and foremost, the information in this article is meant to be a list of the waka that appear in these traditions. Of course these traditions vary, and it wasn't the intention for this article to present these accounts as indisputable historical fact (Te Ara gives an insight on these canoe traditions here). The lede should have made this clearer perhaps, and I've changed it accordingly. Cheers. Liveste (talkedits) 07:53, 26 January 2011 (UTC)