Talk:List of Ministry of Environment Regions of British Columbia

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usefulness?[edit]

I question the usefulness of this page. whats need is a wikipage on the British Columbia Ministry of Environment.--Wuerzele (talk) 03:04, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

I agree with the need for a ministry page, and had observed similar about the lack of a Ministry of Forests page or most other BC ministries. This page exists in part because there was a systemic flaw in the creation of wiki-subdivisions of BC using hte regional district system, as regional districts have very little power and their boundaries have only relevance as far as zoning permits and census-counts go, and their governments do not include jurisdiction over Indian reserves within t heir boundaries, nor do they have any power in provincial forests or parks etc etc. The "layer-cake" of BC's subdivisions range from the land districts (which are the only citable subdivision as far as RS goes for many things e.g. mountains and lakes) through Forest Regions/Districts, Health Regions etc etc. Environment regions, curiously, do not coincide with BC Parks regions even though they're the same ministry...and Ministry of Tourism regions are yet another subdivision, and then there's Development Regions (which are three or so RDs in combination e.g. Mainland Southwest or Southwestern Mainland or whatever it's called is the combination of the GVRD, SLRD, and FVRD...maybe SCRD too haven't looked at the map lately). Naming and subdivisions get problematic see Talk:Lower Mainland for examples, as some government regions using that name include areas outside the Lower Mainland (e.g. the Sunshine Coast re policing regions and I think Environment). There is nothing like a county system as in Ontario or the US....one of the reasons for that, despite the one-time clout of the Gold Commissioners over the Mining Districts (which were teh main social/economic divisions in former times) who represented and were empowered with the whole of provincial governance for their regions, Victoria as the 20th Century went on, particularly under WAC Bennett and since, made a point of fragmenting coalesced regions into different RDs and applied different boundaries to forests districts, highways districts, health regions, environment/park regions and even LRMPs (land use management plans).... so as to prevent/forestall the emergency of strong local self-government and keep things centralized. The RD system was created by WAC because the Lower Mainland Regional Planning Board had shown leadership and represented the will of their constituent communities/citizens and gone against his plans for the freeway and suburbanization of the Fraser Valley. Long story, but just an explanation of why BC is as fragmented and layered for regional division systems as it is; all should be here (some are, see Outline of British Columbia and though MoE regions aren't even useful for categorizing parks (which should not be categorized by regional districts, as not being under RD jurisdiction or relevant to their powers or boundaries) there's no reason not to have this list; some regions may turn out in the long run to warrant articles or sections. A List of subdivisions of British Columbia would be massive and complex of course; the "Outline" suffices for that for now.

But yes, a BC Ministry of Environment and BC Ministry of Forests and other ministry titles are sorely needed; one problem with them though is they get "shuffled" all the time and change names every so many governments along.Skookum1 (talk) 07:47, 26 November 2014 (UTC)