Talk:List of Muhajir people

MUHAMMAD Ali Jinnah FAMOUS MUHAJIRS

I feel strongly that the Quaid-e-Azam should be included in the famous Muhajir section, as his descent and choice of Urdu as a national language strongly suggest. Although I believe he did not speak Urdu himself, that factor alone does not disqualify him (nor the muhajir 2nd or 3rd generation diaspora that has never learned Urdu). He was born into a muslim middle class family from Gujarat and spent time in Bombay before moving to his creation, Pakistan.

Having said that, Jinnah belongs to all Pakistanis equally as a symbol of Pakistan and the Founder and Father of the Nation. My inclusion rests solely on the basis of his ethnicity.

PROD delete at Famous Muhajirs

Hey..you recently removed the prod at the above article saying the article has a "long history and several editors". I was wonder how edits by the same FEW people count has that. Additionally, if you don't want it deleted should you not write on the discussion and not just remove the prod? [—Preceding unsigned comment added by Thejermdotorg (talk • contribs) ; copied from my talk page]

Sorry to take so long to get back to you, I'd fallen behind a couple of days on XFD and was catching up. Another reason it probably took me so long, frankly, is that I did not see anything inadequate about my edit summary. Unlike some deprodders, I always try to leave some explanation of my reasoning in my edit summary, even though it's technically not required. Furthermore, while prodders are supposed to specify their rationale for deletion on the template, very few of them elaborate on their reasoning on the article's talk page. Why should I feel obligated to leave long discourses on the talk page explaining myself, when prodders usually offered rationales just as terse as my edit summaries?

However, to get to your points. Yes, I realized that most of the edits came from the same circle of contributors, but there were still a number of them - you see them as "few," I saw them as "several." But another reason for my deprod was that your rationale that the article was "only a list of names of people are are immigrants" suggested to me that perhaps you were unfamiliar with the subject matter and wasn't aware of the relationship of the Muhajirs to Pakistani national identity. By analogy, suppose there was an entry for "Famous Pilgrims," and it was prodded on the grounds that it was "only a list of names of people [who] are immigrants." You might wonder if the prodder was a foreigner who was unfamiliar with American history and culture, right? Now, someone could be well-versed in American history and still think that such a list was "unencyclopedic," better served by a category, or that it should be deleted for some other reason, but I would still be uncomfortable with having it deleted based on lack of awareness. I've encountered many WP:HOLE prods where people are passing judgments on foreign topics or unfamiliar fields, and I worry that it can lead to overhasty deletions (just yesterday, for example, I deprodded EMILY's List). --Groggy Dice T | C 17:36, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

RE: JINNAH

Jinnah may have been the son of a Gujarati merchant, but he was born and bred in Karachi, prior to the partition of the Subcontinent - thus, to classify him as a 'Muhajir' is ludicrous. Moreover, his speeches and writings clearly indicate that he did not identify with, nor consider himself to be a member of the community that labelled itself 'Muhajir', following the creation of Pakistan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.242.151.72 (talk) 23:46, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

If you don't add the name of Jinnah in the list then removed the name of Muajir who are born in Karachi. There are lots of famous names in the list who are born in Karachi like Jinnah and they are considered Muhajir?

One big fact: I see the big list of successful Muhajir who moved to the land of opportunities the Paksitan from India and wonder why MQM complaines of unjustice to Muhajirs? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 15.227.185.72 (talk) 02:14, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

this is about famous muhajirs not politics Syedumer675 (talk) 15:08, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 July 2018

Add Afaq Ahmed in the list of politicians. Muzafar 268 (talk) 04:41, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Hhkohh (talk) 05:32, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 March 2019

125.209.116.29 (talk) 05:51, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: Empty request. Sam Sailor 11:14, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 August 2020

Please add to the list of armed forces' officers 1. Wing Commander Tanvir Ahmed Mohajir (Fighter Pilot Pakistan Air Force) 2. Brigadier Mateen Mohajir (Artillery Arm; Pakistan Army) 3. Wing Commander Raheel Mohajir (Fighter Pilot Pakistan Air Force) 4. Air Cdre Muhamamd Akbar (Sitara-e-Jurrat BAR; most decorated officer of Pakistan Air Force)

and the best part is that all four of these are from the same family, my family. Muhammad Yusuf Munim Mohajir (talk) 12:33, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Please also make sure that each requested person has an existing Wikipedia article before making this request. Please see WP:WTAF for additional advice on this. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 13:03, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Requested move 2 October 2020

Moved to Talk:Muhajir people § Requested move 2 October 2020

 – – Thjarkur (talk) 21:59, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 January 2022

Shouldn't former Pakistani president and four star general Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq be considered a Muhajir as well. He was born well before partition in 1922 in Jalandhar which is present day India. I am not 100% sure if that would mean he is a muhajir since it is in Indian punjab and not too far from the border in modern day Pakistan but a question nonetheless. 24.13.28.25 (talk) 05:33, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

{{WikiProject Muhajirs}} Flamealpha123 (talk) 15:27, 24 August 2022 (UTC)