Talk:List of NFL tied games

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Links to Game Summaries[edit]

Are there any sources of Game Summaries for these games? KyuuA4 19:43, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

  • From on-line and book source, I took care of the two most recent. Doctorindy (talk) 03:14, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Nov. 16, 2008 tie game[edit]

Yes, I have heard of this from other sources:

"McNabb later stated that he was not aware that a game could end in a tie."

But immediately-preceding sentence says he threw a desperation pass as the overtime period ended. So when did he realize that a regular-season game could indeed end in a tie? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.63.16.82 (talk) 18:29, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

It's possible that he thought an overtime game that finished the 15' scoreless went into another overtime, possibly with a coin flip to determine possession. Instead of risking losing possession on such a trivial thing, he went for it all as time expired. Achowat (talk) 19:45, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
Another possibility is that the coaches, who probably knew the game could end in a tie, called for the Hail Mary and McNabb just ran the play he was told to run. 1995hoo (talk) 21:29, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Article name[edit]

Why is this not "List of tied NFL games", for a grammar pedant's sake? And why is "NFL" abbreviated? That seems a bit ... casual, I guess. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 11:18, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

I have no qualms about placing NFL in front of 'tied games'; as for the abbreviation of 'NFL', that tends to be pretty common. Aside from reducing the length of the title, there are plenty of other featured lists that use abbreviations, like the entirety of the National Basketball Association awards featured topic. Toa Nidhiki05 14:34, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Need more on why teams don't play for them[edit]

Do ties give you zero points or is it just that they are so hard to get that playing for one isn't a viable option?Geni (talk) 19:01, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

The NFL bases all of its tables off of winning percentage, not points; ties are worth a half-win and half-loss towards that percentage, which immediately reduces the value of them because it basically hurts you as much as it helps you. You are correct in regards to it being so hard to do that it isn't viable; you basically have to go a whole period of play without letting the other team score, which is very difficult to do in football since there are multiple ways to score. As another factor, players, coaches, and fans of football do not like ties, and prefer a conclusive result either way over them. Actively coaching for a tie in overtime is basically unheard of in the modern era, although a tie could be useful in certain scenarios for playoff qualification.
So, to sum it up: ties don't give any benefit in most situations, it is rather hard to tie a game, and players, coaches, and fans frown upon them. Toa Nidhiki05 20:15, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
Yes but this needs to be covered in the article.Geni (talk) 21:35, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
The only time a team might "play for a tie" would be perhaps a game in week 17, when a "win or tie" (as designated by official NFL playoff scenarios) would clinch a playoff spot, and they had gone very deep into the overtime period, and a score by either team does not seem eminent, and they chose to sit on the ball to run out the clock and secure a playoff spot. This is extremely rare, and modern examples are almost non-existent. In 2005, Atlanta had gone deep into OT (against Tampa Bay), and they were trying to figure out if a tie would help their playoff hopes. The head coach Jim Mora Jr. was fined when he was observed talking on a cell phone on the sideline, he was talking to a team assistant who was trying to calculate if a tie would help the team's playoff chances, and whether they should just sit on the ball. Ends up it wouldn't have, and they lost anyway in the final few seconds. Either way, there really is no precedent for playing for a tie in the modern era of the NFL.  Doctorindy (Talk) 15:26, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

"NFL teams never play for ties"???[edit]

"NFL teams never play for ties; the sudden-death overtime system does not provide for an easy way to finish in a tie. Instead, ties are almost always the result of mishaps or mistakes from the teams involved." This is, at least, poorly stated; and at best, inaccurate.

First of all, saying that teams "never" play for ties is false. A team can play for a tie if, for example, they're substantially through overtime in the last week of the season, and a tie assures them a playoff spot, as discussed elsewhere on this page.

Secondly, "never" implies that there was never a historical reason to play for a tie. This is untrue. Back in the early days of the league, games which ended in ties didn't count in the standings. AT ALL. A team with a record of, say, 7-0, which then tied a game, continued to have a record of 7-0. There was no such thing as a "7-0-1" record. In the standings, it basically was listed as if the game had never happened. So a team trying to maintain a "perfect" season and struggling in a close, low-scoring game, could play for the tie, as it didn't result in a blemish on their record. This is why it is technically incorrect to say that the 1972 Dolphins are the only team to have finished their season with a perfect record. Several teams accomplished "perfect" records back in the 20's and 30's, as defined by what was considered "perfect" at the time. It wasn't until 1972, when the league decided to retroactively add those ties to those teams' records, and unfairly (in my opinion) strip those teams of those perfect records, just to make the Dolphins claim to be the first to have done it sound better for PR purposes. This retroactive standings changing resulted in at least one case where the league champion--determined back then by regular season standings, there were no playoffs yet--was the team who had the best record at that time, but once the ties were added in several decades later, a different team was actually higher in the standings. (They didn't change who was the champion though.)

Thirdly, saying that, "...ties are almost always the result of mishaps or mistakes from the teams involved." is patently ridiculous. Ties can be the result simply of both teams' defenses getting stronger in the OT period. They can be the result of wind/weather/field conditions. They can be the result of all sorts of things. They're not mishaps or mistakes; they're part of the game as it's currently defined. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.75.212.7 (talk) 17:03, 25 November 2013 (UTC)