Talk:List of U.S. states and territories by population

Left over territorys 2010

I think US Minor Outlying Islands should be added to some up the less important territorys. I'd do it, but there is no edit button.

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I think (from reading the text) that it's because those territories have no permanent resident population. See the notes about, e.g. Wake Island. And in order to edit, just register. Within a week, if not much sooner, you'll see that little edit button (not available to newcomers on this particular page because of Wikipedia:Protection policy#Semi-protection). —— Shakescene (talk) 19:10, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

flags

Some entries have the state flag, and some do not. As a featured list I think some consistency is called for here. Beeblebrox (talk) 22:55, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Y Done. Although I'm not thrilled with the way Georgia turned out. I can't figure how to simply display the word "Georgia" without "U.S. state" which is redundant since it is a list of states. Beeblebrox (talk) 23:12, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Ok, now I am really confused. Looking at the documentation for Template:flag, it shows how to name it differently, which worked fine for Georgia, but the same trick did not work for Washington. Beeblebrox (talk) 23:18, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Fixed Thanks to HJ Mitchell for the assist! Beeblebrox (talk) 23:44, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Delaware

The 2010 figure for Delaware appears to be wrong. Currently it reads 900,877, but the US Census site says 897,934. This second lower figures also comports with 2010 United States Census. I'm leaving this for someone else to fix in case I'm looking at something incorrectly. Phil wink (talk) 22:49, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

The 2010 US States only total is off by the 2,943 from Delaware. Add them up using the numbers here and you'd get 308,146,758 instead of 308,143,815. So it is inconsistent. It uses the US Census site Delaware numbers in the fifty state total, but not for the Delaware number. Please correct one of them. 192.122.237.11 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 22:58, 23 February 2011 (UTC).

For a continuation of this discussion, see the section "Inconsistencies in the census numbers" below. Duoduoduo (talk) 14:32, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Ranking Change from 2000

There has got to be a better way to display changes in ranking from 2000 to 2010 besides the jumble of numbers in the far left-hand column. The jumble ruins the aesthetics of the chart, and it's not consistent with how we show these type of changes. If it's really that important, than just add another column showing the ranking in 2000. --Criticalthinker (talk) 04:03, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Inconsistencies in the census numbers

One column gives note [5] for the data source; note [5] in turn gives two different U.S. Census websites. (In one of those sites, you have to click Table 1.) For some reason that I can't figure out, these two sites give slightly different figures from each other, for every state. The data in this article's table are at least in part from Table 1 of one of the sites. This discrepancy explains the above discussion of Delaware's numbers, and it explains my back-and-forth edits on Vermont's numbers. But why do the two census sites disagree with each other? Duoduoduo (talk) 14:32, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

I wrote footnote 5, and when I did look into the Census Bureau's explanations, I wasn't sure that I'd fully grasped them: but I knew that if the distinctions evaded me, they'd probably be too complicated to explain in the footnote, which is why it begins with "For simplicity's sake", giving both sets of numbers for reference. Here's a partial Census Bureau explanation of "apportionment population":

The apportionment population consists of the resident population of the 50 states, plus the overseas military and federal civilian employees and their dependents living with them who could be allocated to a state. The populations of the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico are excluded from the apportionment population because they do not have voting seats in the U.S. House of Representatives.

http://2010.census.gov/2010census/data/apportionment-data.php
Now the trick is to compare who's counted for non-apportionment population. Unfortunately, the Census website got reorganized in the last couple of years in a way that makes research and searching, even for documents you know exist, far more difficult, laborious and frustrating. —— Shakescene (talk) 02:20, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

I looked over Census 2010 populations and set them to the value of "Total Population" (P1) as found here. I did not check Guam, US Virgin Islands, Northern Mariana Islands, or American Samoa. WormNut (talk) 15:00, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Pie chart

The 50+-slice pie chart in this article is a classic example of pie chart overuse. In fact, funny enough, I went looking for something to back up this impression, and found this article critiquing this very chart. A better alternative would be to highlight the first 5 or so states and combine the rest, or use categories like small states by region ("Small Western States"). - PhilipR (talk) 13:30, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

I understand your point, but I disagree. I think this chart does a really nice job of showing that there are a large number of small states and a small number of large states. You can see at a glance that the four biggest states contain close to a third of the population. Having seen it, it will stick with me for a long time, whereas a paragraph or table presenting the same information would not be likely to stick with me. And the suggested alternative, to have slices for the first five states and combine the rest into regions, would be hard to read because, well, some slices would be states and some would be regions; and it would fail to convey the visual impression that, in the overall scheme of things, 40 or so of the states are more or less indistinguishable in size. Duoduoduo (talk) 15:08, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Vandalism?

The recent edits by Roif456 appear to be vandalism. They consist of unjustified edits to the data themselves. Note that, as the page stands, the totals at the bottom of the table do not accurately reflect the sum of the individual populations presented. 99.14.216.200 (talk) 18:37, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

The change to Delaware's population figure incurred here, on the other hand, seems inadvertent (though no less wrong). 99.14.216.200 (talk) 19:08, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Looking at the total difference since early July (by clicking the appropriate buttons in Revision History), the changes seem to be to Texas, California, Montana and Wyoming. If they don't fit the sources used for other states, just enter the numbers that do, with an explanation and referral to this Talk Page. If there's too much sniping and WP:edit-warring, you could leave a polite note at User talk:Roif456 inviting him or her to give his point of view here. —— Shakescene (talk) 02:32, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Massachusetts' "Percent of total U.S. pop., 2010" is Calculated Incorrectly

In the rightmost column of the data table, it appears all values in the rightmost column, entitled "Percent of total U.S. pop., 2010," was calculated by taking the respective states' 2010 Census Population number and dividing by the "Total US territory" population for the same year/column (312,913,872).

Massachusetts' percentage is incorrectly showing 2.04% when the correct percentage is 2.09% (6,547,629 / 312,913,872 = 0.0209)

Thanks! --Enguyen03 (talk) 23:57, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

D.C. Should be included as if a state

Without D.C. the electoral college data and population data seem a bit off in presentation. You have to subtract data to get DC's information. Certainly, if territories are included, DC should be; and it has electoral college votes. Plus, it has more people than one or more staes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.88.36.105 (talk) 08:22, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Minor territory 2010 populations

I noticed that the four minor territories had incorrect numbers (probably estimates for 2010). I put the correct figures in (and gave the source for them). What I did not do was readjust the total population results or the percentages in the table for the change in the data. Carolina wren (talk) 01:06, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Utah

Utah will soon have four members in the United State's House. Go to http://www.redistrictutah.com/ for more info. This needs to be fixied in the Article(UTC)

Sparty1212 (talk) 15:40, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Population Change Map, Greater-Than not Less-Than Symbols

The population change map has a number of Less-Than (<) Symbols where it should have Greater-Than (>) Symbols

Cbmccarthy (talk) 13:01, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 22 December 2011

I think there is a typo in the table in the States and Territories section. The Idaho Population Estimate July 1, 2011 is listed as 1.584,985, instead of 1,584,985 (i.e. decimal point instead of comma).

Lperovich (talk) 17:03, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Done --Jnorton7558 (talk) 00:48, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 28 December 2011

California's "Seats in House" number and "Presidental Elector" numbers are reversed on the page. CA has 53 House seats and 55 Electors.

174.76.158.53 (talk) 19:25, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Done — Bility (talk) 20:50, 28 December 2011 (UTC)