Talk:List of UFO religions

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Guy Ballard - can be classified as UFO cult?[edit]

Personally, I am not sure that this article should remain at all, it seems to be largely built off of many users' original research over time, and what is more, it just seems to be a long list of ET cults that everyone adds to from time to time. Eradas (talk) 01:36, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Now, I myself am not very familiar with Gallard's specific teachings, but his general ones seem to focus very little at all on UFOs or ETs, in fact, they seem to avoid mentioning the existence of either, and differ very greatly from the teachings of Heaven's Gate and the Ashtar Command, and other such cults. Also debatable, as a side note, is whether Scientology should really be considered a "UFO religion".

The article itself said: "However, Guy Ballard did not mention anything about extraterrestrial spacecraft in the teachings of the I AM Activity; almost all communication from the Ascended Masters came telepathically. In the very few cases where Guy Ballard claimed to physically encounter ascended masters, he said they appeared to him from the etheric plane, not from a space vehicle, and most of these masters are said to be formerly human teachers on Earth who have attained enlightenment. However, during Guy Ballard's claimed first encounter with an ascended master, the ascended master St. Germain, in a cave underneath Mount Shasta, he said that St. Germain showed him a television set that could receive transmissions from the planet Venus."

And yet, this very last statement about that saint and the TV set from Venus, is itself unsourced and a clear example of original research. Again, I agree that I may well have removed too much in my initial edit, this was just a random page I came across while browsing, but I really think that this article needs better clean-up. Ballard never claimed to be communicating with flying saucers commanded by extraterrestrials, and to my knowledge, a magic TV beneath the earth allowing contact with the spirits of supposedly deceased saints does not seem to qualify as one. Eradas (talk) 02:32, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

I've checked the source, Partridge, and rewritten that section to match what Partridge actually says. We follow what the sources say, and of course at times they may contradict each other (I'm speaking in general right now, not about this particular edit). Dougweller (talk) 10:02, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

My thanks, Doug, for your consideration, and I thank you also for your kindness in welcoming me to Wikipedia. If I need any further assistance or guidance in the future, or if there is any other issue I am uncertain with, rest assured I will remember to contact you directly in the future. If you yourself are ever in need of any assistance at all, and I can in any way somehow help, please do not hesitate to contact me either, my friend. Best wishes, Eradas (talk) 15:16, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, just glad I could be of help and thanks again for pointing this out. You've already started to 'fix the Internet'. Dougweller (talk) 18:36, 18 August 2013 (UTC)