Talk:List of cities in New York

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There are no cities in Suffolk County![edit]

Cities in New York are a well-defined political entity in the state. They must be chartered as such. Just because you know a town, village, or CDP that is important to you, that does not mean it is a city. Please stop adding incorrect information.PIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Date of incorporation for NYC[edit]

Is incorrect, the city of NY was first incorporated as a city not even a few months before the city of Albany was. Both recieved charters from Gov. Dongan. In a purely technical point the current city of NY was chartered in 1898 since it is distinct from the NYC that preceded it.24.182.142.254 (talk) 22:07, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Do you have a source for your information on the date of initial incorporation? History of New York City gives the date as 1653, and it cites a source. This whole article is unsourced. A few references would improve it a lot. In the meantime, since the 1653 date is sourced, I am restoring it. --Orlady (talk) 23:57, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Sorry its been a month or so, I didnt have this page on my watchlist and got caught up with List of incorporated places in New York's Capital District. Anyways- here's a page produced by the New York State Museum that confirms New York's city charter was given only three months prior to Albany's (and therefore in 1686, and therefore I would think is reliable- http://www.nysm.nysed.gov/albany/charter.html and here is the full text of the Dongan Charter for the city of New York- http://www.archive.org/stream/dongancharterofc00newyrich/dongancharterofc00newyrich_djvu.txt

I'm not sure but I'm guessing the 1653 date is referring to a village (dorp in Dutch) and not to what we call in English a city.Camelbinky (talk) 06:28, 24 May 2009 (UTC)