Talk:List of currencies in the Americas

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Former FLCList of currencies in the Americas is a former featured list candidate. Please view the link under Article milestones below to see why the nomination failed. Once the objections have been addressed you may resubmit the article for featured list status.
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January 27, 2014Featured list candidateNot promoted
May 15, 2014Peer reviewReviewed
June 21, 2014Featured list candidateNot promoted
September 5, 2014Featured list candidateNot promoted
Did You Know A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on January 15, 2014.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that 18 different official currencies are currently in use in the countries of North America?
Current status: Former featured list candidate

Help with geography[edit]

If the following places are not part of North America, where are they please: Bermuda; Clipperton; Greenland; Guadeloupe; Martinique; St Pierre & Miquelon? --Hors-la-loi (talk) 09:09, 15 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I came here to wonder about St Pierre & Miquelon. It should definitely be listed on the page. As to the rest of your list I'd say that Greenland depends on your definition of North America - personally I think it is neither North America or Europe. Ditto for Bermuda, although it was briefly part of Virginia. Clipperton hardly counts as there is nobody there to use a currency. Guadeloupe and Martinique should be on the page just as much as the rest of the Caribbean islands. If you are going to assign Caribbean islands to continents is there a magic line where they stop being North America and start being South America? How about Curaçao? That would be ridiculous. I guess this page should defer to the definition on the North America page. Ferritecore (talk) 15:19, 15 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The North America page includes all 6 of the places mentioned by Hors-la-loi in the table under Countries, territories and dependencies.

Greenland page includes this sentence: Though physiographically a part of the continent of North America, Greenland has been politically and culturally associated with Europe (specifically Norway and later Denmark) for more than a millennium. The line between North America and South America appears to run very close to the South American continent, because all the Caribbean islands are shown on the North America page (even Trinidad & Tobago, which lies just off the South American coast!). Curaçao is listed in the North America page. Prisoner of Zenda (talk) 02:13, 16 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This is a list of currencies in sovereign states: for now. Greenland is not independent. Thanks, Matty.007 19:33, 16 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Horizontal alignment[edit]

Just wondering if horizontal alignment would improve the look and readability of the table. For example, Panama has two currencies: the Panamanian balboa and the US dollar. If these were to be on separate lines, the next column (Currency sign) would not need "(Panamanian balboa)" after "B/." and "(United States dollar)" after "$" because it would be evident to the reader that "B/." and "$" (also being on separate lines) refer to the Panamanian balboa and the US dollar respectively, as would "Centésimo" and "Cent".

The same would apply to Cuba, where the Cuban peso and the Cuban convertible peso would be on separate lines, as would "CUC$" and "₱", and "Cent" and "Centavo". Footnotes [22] and [23] seem to refer to both currencies, so it may be necessary to show both for each currency. Prisoner of Zenda (talk) 00:28, 16 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Good idea. Now done. Thanks, Matty.007 19:31, 16 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Matty. Would you be happy to delete the "(United States dollar)" after "cent" in the Fractional unit column for Panama? Or did you retain it for some specific reason? Prisoner of Zenda (talk) 02:59, 19 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Removed, thanks for asking. Thanks for the help, Matty.007 12:17, 19 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Saint Pierre and Miquelon[edit]

The currency of Saint Pierre and Miquelon is the euro although the Canadian dollar is also accepted. So that makes 19! --Ipigott (talk) 07:58, 17 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I've just read your comment stating that the list is limited to sovereign states - but that is certainly not clear from the title. Maybe it should be changed to List of currencies in the sovereign states of North America?--Ipigott (talk) 09:05, 17 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Attempted to clarify. Thanks, Matty.007 18:27, 17 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I think St Pierre and Miquelon and the euro should be added; the article lists other non-sovereign territories and their currencies.Varnebank (talk) 17:33, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Responses to some issues raisesd in FLN[edit]

  • I think the country first is OK, see the FLs List of U.S. state dogs, List of U.S. state horses, List of circulating currencies
    • Having currency first would invalidate the previous currency column and the bank column
    • Also, it's not hard to sort the currencies alphabetically, thereby showing which countries share currencies
    • Lead now expanded to give a little more detail on the phenomena of Cuba and Panama's multiple currency system. Thanks, Matty.007 15:38, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Removed bank websites
  • I can't see that putting referencing in each column is an issue, a little [1] is hardly an issue to readers
  • I can hardly detail all currencies in N America, so I focussed on the main couple, which are the only currencies used by multiple countries
  • I will explore the possibility of making a map
    • Map not needed: what could it detail? Thanks, Matty.007 15:41, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • I am unsure if this should contain territories, but I will investigate the possibility of including them (please comment on inclusion or exclusion)

Please respond to these replies. Thanks, Matty.007 15:17, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

U.S. and "America"[edit]

In para 2 of the preamble are the sentences " ... the world's need for United States dollars has led to Americans, and the American government, being able to borrow at lower costs. The resulting economic value to the U.S. is calculated at over $100 billion annually." It appears that "U.S." and "America" are used interchangeably - but that's incorrect, as there are many sovereign states in "[North] America" (the subject of this article). Should the first sentence therefore be " ... the world's need for United States dollars has led to the United States government, and its citizens, being able to borrow at lower costs."? Prisoner of Zenda (talk) 11:52, 9 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Changed, thanks for bringing it up. However, an American is also a citizen of USA, see Americans, but I think your distinction was needed here. Best, Matty.007 16:18, 13 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Column widths[edit]

Visual presentation would be greatly enhanced if the column widths in the second and third tables matched those in the first table. Can this be done? Prisoner of Zenda (talk) 09:06, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Personally I have no idea how to do this, but I'll bring it up whe I next majorly edit the article, probably at the weekend on the FLN. Thanks for the comment, Matty.007 16:19, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I see you've rejigged the entire page to show the currency (rather than the country) in the first column, Matty. I've adjusted the column widths because they seemed to me to be too wide ... let me know what you think. If what I've done is a backward step, I'll remove the change. Prisoner of Zenda (talk) 06:02, 27 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not really sure to be honest, it does remove a lot of empty space, but adds a bit on the right... See if anything's said at the Featured List nomination, if not I'll leave it. Thanks again for the help, best, Matty.007 08:35, 27 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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