Talk:List of diplomatic missions of France

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Kosovo[edit]

The guiding principle in these diplomatic missions by country articles is that we report according to how certain countries choose to certify their relationship. This is consistent with Wikipedia's self-identification concept. So in the Diplomatic missions of Kiribati article we mention it has an embassy in the Republic of China, even though only 20 other countries recognise Taiwan. The Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus has its own article, even though it is only recognised by one country.

If you want to change this policy and have it applied to the 180 articles already completed, please go to the International Relations project discussion page and present your arguments.

Kransky (talk) 00:07, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Discussion at WP:FOR on formatting and content of "List of diplomatic missions" article[edit]

There is now a discussion at WP:FOR on the formatting and content of "List of diplomatic missions" articles. As this discussion ostensibly could affect this article, editors are encouraged to provide their opinions on the WP:FOR at this link - Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_International_relations#Formatting_of_diplomatic_missions_lists - please do not discuss on this article talk page as valid points for consideration may very well not be seen by editors at large. Thank you, --Russavia Dialogue Stalk me 00:36, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

"Republic of China" / "Taiwan"[edit]

I propose that the "RoC/Taiwan" entry be deleted. It is inaccurate and misleading. France has no diplomatic relations or dimplomatic mission to "RoC/Taiwan"....There is much material, easily accessible, verifying this, including the following:

"As far as France is concerned there is only one China and Taiwan is an integral part of Chinese territory. France does not support the independence of Taiwan," Sarkozy said, describing Taiwan's status as part of "the turn of historical events" - President Sarkozy.

Organization of a referendum on accession to the UN under the name Taiwan (March 20, 2008)

As the President has already had the opportunity to indicate, France’s position on this issue is very clear and remains unchanged. France is firmly opposed to the organization of a referendum on accession to the UN under the name Taiwan. It is a useless, regrettable exercise.

We are opposed to any unilateral initiative liable to challenge the status quo. We must promote dialogue, cooperation and the stability of the region.

For France, there is only one China. Taiwan is an integral part of China. - [1]

STATE VISIT TO CHINA

STATEMENTS MADE BY M. JACQUES CHIRAC, PRESIDENT OF THE REPUBLIC, IN HIS JOINT PRESS DECLARATION WITH MR HU JINTAO, PRESIDENT OF CHINA - (Beijing, 26 October 2006)"On Taiwan, I [President Chirac] repeated to President Hu Jintao that France still has the same consistent unambiguous policy. France is keeping to the one-China principle."

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Why does the article tell the lie that France has a diplomatic mission to "RoC/Taiwan"?. Regards. Redking7 (talk) 11:26, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Oh, you again.
I thought you were banned, or very close to being banned. No problems though.
Okay, if you would like to make this change to this article, I would insist you do so through a blanket policy that restricts publication of such quasi-missions, not just of Taiwan (to all countries), but also other entities which are not formally recognised (by the receiving state) as countries.
I maintain that insisting on a change for one country, and not for others (and not making the effort to make the necessary policy change) is acting in very bad faith.
I will repeat that I am prepared to consider such a policy if you are prepared to support its integrity, as opposed to making piece-meal edits to some articles but not others.
I cannot speak for yourself, but I have a job, girlfriend and hobbies, and cannot devote the requisite amount of time to pursue and keep challenging your tendentious edits. Fortunately your past disruptive edits are on the record, so it should not be too difficult for an administrator to make up his or her mind.
Do yourself a favour - seek a wholesale policy change as I have described above, or find another set of articles to harass. Kransky (talk) 15:04, 29 August 2009 (UTC)


"Oh, you again", still pretending there is a need for a policy change - the policy is and remains on WP: No original research and only publish verifiable information. Hence the RoC/Taiwan entry needs to go. If you want to change policies on WP, raise it elsewhere!). Regards. Redking7 (talk) 11:10, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
I am back at my PC and can start to address your changes. You keep repeating the same mantra about OR which I (and others) considers is off the point. I am wondering why you are not proposing the elimination of similar Palestinian, Northern Cypriot and other quasi-missions in states that do not recognise Palestine, TNRC. Are you saying that they are diplomatic missions and the Taiwanese ones aren't? Because making that judgement call is going well beyond OR. Kransky (talk) 10:38, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

If there are other entries that are on the list that shouldn't be they should come off too. I suppose you are raising other the issue of other entries on the list because you cannot provide a source showing that France has a diplomatic mission to the Republic of China. Pretty weak. Regards. Redking7 (talk) 10:50, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Cyprus, Georgia, and Armenia[edit]

Cyprus is NOT part of Asia nor the Middle East. It is a part of Europe and the European Union. With a Greek-Cypriot population of 80%, majority Greek Orothox religion and Greek language there is NOTHING Middle Eastern about this island nation. Please refrain from placing it in Middle East category as it is NOT Middle Eastern. Same goes for Georgia and Armenia. Both are technically part of Europe as they lie north of the Caucus Mountain range. Anything south is considered part of Asia. Georgia is a possible candidate for EU Membership and Armenia has expressed interest in joing the organization within the next decade. Please refrain from adding these two former Soviet Republics with overall Christian populations to the Middle East. If you have something to discuss, do so on this page.

With regards to the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, no nation on earth recognizes that country except Turkey. Turkey realizes that it's recognition of this country will affect its chances of joining the European Union. --XLR8TION (talk) 20:46, 23 October 2011 (UTC)