Talk:List of epidemics

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Fact Checking Hooray![edit]

I've removed this item: Europe 1400 BC killed 90% of the population plague3,400-year-old epidemic still plagues humans today: study. The given link is on a the site "Signs of the Times: Something Wicked This Way Comes" and references a 2009 publication in Nature Genetics by A. Stewart which I found and is called "Genetics of coronary artery disease: Results from the CARDIoGRAM meta-analysis". Gotta love science journalism. -Craig Pemberton 03:41, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

AIDS[edit]

Should not AIDS on the African continent be included here as an epidemic? I'm not adding it myself as I'm not sure the best way of portraying it or dating it.

More Fact-checking[edit]

Um, this reference, (no. 16, "The Fight to Eradicate a Global Scourge" used as a citation for 1617-19 in the Mass Bay Area needs attention. There were no European/English settlements in the area until 10 years later. The epidemic occurred, among the native Americans in the area, was probably a result of a brief landing by one of the exploratory or fishing groups that came to the area and left again. So "Mass Bay Colony" needs to be amended to something like "eastern shore of the area inhabited by the Massachusett, Wampanoag, Algonquian and other populations." It wasn't the Bay Colony until 1629/30.198.176.188.201 (talk) 19:42, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Courtland 03:16, 2005 Apr 5 (UTC)

Has since been added to the sublist of pandemics. -- Beland 06:45, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Removed, no evidence that it meets the classification of a pandemic offered in support at this time. - MSTCrow 19:14, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Re-added--not trying to start an edit war, but to leave it out baffles me. The wikipedia entry on AIDS identifies it as a pandemic, citing UNAIDS literature. If 38.6 million people around the world infected with an incurable disease does not qualify as a pandemic, what does?

Food for thought - AIDS shouldn't be listed under Africa, since AIDS is not a regional pandemic, but worldwide. The organization of the page seems to be worldwide, then regional, so worldwide pandemics shouldn't be listed in the regional sections. 69.7.41.230 (talk) 22:41, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Solved the problem, listed it under Africa but made reference to it as a global disease. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.220.24.15 (talk) 12:54, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

If we were to list all the notable hotspots and subsets of each pandemic we would quickly be swamped in data and research. Such details imply a higher quality of data for the article as a whole than it currently has. I do not see any clear reason why AIDS needs a separate listing for Africa since it is a global pandemic like 64.7.41.230 says. Yes, HIV/AIDS in Africa has a page, but so do HIV/AIDS in Asia, HIV/AIDS in Europe, HIV/AIDS in North America and HIV/AIDS in South America. Each epidemic should be listed once and only once. -Craig Pemberton 23:11, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Scarlet Fever[edit]

What about the 1928 scarlet Fever epidemic in the US? Didn't a ton of people dies in that? 75.48.13.248 (talk) 00:56, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

If you could provide a citation or a link to a page on Wikipedia then feel free to add it or I can add it for you. -Craig Pemberton 23:20, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

List Organization[edit]

This partial list has only two sections / sorted by different criteria. I have some good reference material to add. I've been thinking of a more expansive list but what would be the best way to divide it up?

1) by date? good for historians. (i.e. divided into ancient history, medieval history, early modern history and modern day??)
2) by causal agent? good for medical readers. (i.e. smallpox, typhus, bubonic plague, unidentified agent etc??)
3) by geographic area -- (probably by continent??) good for epidemiologists and people interested in histories of individual countries. (but would cause duplication for most of the pandemics, and some epidemics in border regions.)

A few of us are knocking these things around on the discussion page of a (possibly temporary) page just called Plague. Your comments would be appreciated. WBardwin 05:11, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

Efforts in this area are now found on List of historical plagues. A merge may be in our future. Please take a look. Comments? WBardwin 03:05, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Statistics request[edit]

This list would be even better if it had statistics on number of people affected or killed. I have made other such lists into sortable tables, which allows readers to rank the list by different columns, dynamically. List of natural disasters by death toll has a start. -- Beland 06:45, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Me too! I think it would be useful to have a list of epidemics sorted by Body Count. Albmont (talk) 17:31, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
    • Maybe by body count - Ice-T is probably a bit busy these days. (Sorry!) --NellieBly (talk) 05:31, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
      • I've made the table sortable and looking at similar lists such as those on the list of disasters, adding a death toll would make this page more consistent with the rest of Wikipedia. Also I think it would put the epidemics in clearer context. If anybody would like to help me with gathering the data that would be great. -Craig Pemberton 23:03, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Swine flu[edit]

Should this really be listed as an epidemic? Is it worse in any way then the yearly flu? CoNaan (talk) 07:25, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

I don't know. Some very small outbreaks are currently included, and as many people consider it an epidemic and will look for it here, I am leaving it in for now. You'll be glad to know, however, that it is now listed once instead of four separate times. -Craig Pemberton 00:36, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Number of Deaths[edit]

Maybe we should list the total number of deaths for each epidemic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.118.149.242 (talk) 15:57, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

I have some more information on the deaths, forgive me for being new. I do not know how to format yet.

1832 cholera epidemic --

Paris, France (Up until April 7th, 1832) - 912

Fredrick, MD (For the day of September 22nd, 1832) - 7

Hagerstown, MD (For the day of September 20th, 1832) - 1

Baltimore, MD (For the day of September 22nd, 1832) - 6

New York, NY (Up until August 4th, 1832) - 1,982

Southbridge, Mass. (On the day of Sept. 14, 1832) - 1

Philadelphia, PA (For the week of August 3rd-8th) - 244

Albany, NY (For the 3rd-6th of August only) - 30

Boston, Mass. (on the day of Sept. 14th, 1832) - 3

This puts the total of deaths to at least 3,186 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.146.112.215 (talk) 17:09, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Human Epidemics[edit]

This 'List of Epidemics' refers only to human-related epidemics, which is not the general use of epidemic. Epidemics refer, generally, to the spread of disease in any host, including animals and plants. Some of the most important epidemics in history have been of plants, resulting in indirect effects of starvation and malnutrition in humans, such as the Irish potato famine, and should either be listed here or the title of the page altered. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.155.96.6 (talk) 10:46, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, not an expert, but epi- meaning "upon or above" and demic- meaning "people". Epidemics deal with disease in human, epizootic deal with disease animal. I'm not sure what the plant one is called. --Muhandes (talk) 11:56, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Just remembered, epiphytotics. --Muhandes (talk) 12:03, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Typhus[edit]

The dates on the early Typhus epidemics seem a mess and possibly incorrect when compared to the fairly comprehensive source of Hirsch Someone who knows more should take a look. -Craig Pemberton 07:08, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Plague inconsistency[edit]

Table shows bubonic plague as a possible cause of Egypt epidemic of 1400BC. However, the Pandemic article states that the Plague of Justinian was the first recorded outbreak of bubonic plague. Issues:

  • Neither item is sourced.
  • If plague was the source of the Egyptian epidemic, how was that not an "outbreak"? (That is, does "outbreak", as used here, refer to some specific technical characteristic?)

Jmacwiki (talk) 03:38, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Probably justifiable to strike unsourced plagues from the list... there are plenty in the sources given that haven't even been put into the article yet. Craig Pemberton (talk) 02:22, 26 June 2011 (UTC)