Talk:List of living centenarians
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- 1 Redundancy
- 2 Order
- 3 Importance of this article
- 4 Missing
- 5 Missing People
- 6 Sort Table
- 7 Another missing person
- 8 Viktor Avilov
- 9 Florence Green and Rose Cliver
- 10 Bunny Mellon and Elisabeth Murdoch
- 11 Nguyen Ngoc Tho
- 12 Leopold Engleitner
- 13 Alexander Imich taken off
- 14 Topazia Alliata of Salaparuta
- 15 Rename Article
- 16 Claudio Cianca
- 17 Olaf Pooley
- 18 Neal Arden
- 19 What is appropriately encyclopedic content for longevity related biographies
- 20 Shivakumara Swamiji is still alive as of Oct 20th 2014 but was deleted
- 21 Centenarians with articles on non-English Wikipedia?
- Agreed, it's just a redundant content fork. I've nominated it for deletion, because there's no real place it could be redirected to or merged with. Canadian Paul 02:10, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
No, this article is different than Lists of centenarians because Lists of centenarians covers centenarians who are dead and alive while this one only covers living centenarians. This article is more direct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 16:15, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
- Agreed, age would be the most reasonable option I feel --Jkaharper (talk) 09:00, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
Importance of this article
Hello. I started this article 2 days ago and found it considered for deletion the next morning. Unfortunately my computer skills (compared to advanced editors) are quite low. Therefore I had been expecting for someone else to create this article and requested its creation a few weeks ago. However since none of the editors deemed its existence essential, I decided to start the article myself.
As for the importance of this list I can say that it could save a huge amount of time for some researchers. Indeed, several longevity and centenarian fellows I know have emphasized that the best way to detect "fresh" centenarians (notable people who've just turned 100) is visiting Wikipedia's list of centenarians. However, as you might see this article is split in 18 pages which is the core of the problem. Now imagine a researcher clicking on all of those 18 links separately and checking all the centenarians on those lists who've turned 100 in 2010. Obviously, this process is time-consuming. I do believe it would be much more convenient to click on List of living centenarians, sort entries by age and simply observe new entries. That would take a few seconds and make researchers' lives much more easier.
In fact, none of the lists concerning centenarians need to be deleted. What has to be done for efficiency is the reorganization of these lists so that an editor doesn't have to write an entry twice. That is, by adding a living person to one of those 18 lists the same entry is automatically added to the list of living centenarians and the way around. This is where my low computer skills show up as I have no idea how to do that. I'll be extremely thankful for any support in organizing the list of centenarians as a whole since currently the article is inefficient and very time-consuming for most researchers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Septuaginta (talk • contribs) 19:58, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
- Huguette Clark!!! Famous heiress, in the press recently. 104 or 105. Seven Letters 21:45, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
There are some living people in List of supercentenarians which are not in this article
It would be nice if someone had modified the table so that it started in a reasonable order (either sorted by name or by age) Unfortunately that's beyond my computer skills
Another missing person
Florence Green and Rose Cliver
I am not sure if Florence Green fits the criteria for this list since being the last Surviving World War I Veteran is still tied into Longevity, I thought this page was for Centenarians who are known for things that have no ties to Longevity.
I think the same can be said with Rose Cliver since once again what she is know for (being one of the last people to Survive the San Fransisco Earthquake) is still tied into Longevity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.127.116.11 (talk) 16:59, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
Bunny Mellon and Elisabeth Murdoch
Possible Additions: Bunny Mellon, Paul Mellon's widow and important figure in the John Edwards political scandal. John Macain's mother gets a mention, why not Elisabeth Murdoch, the 103-year-old mother of media baron Rupert Murdoch? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeuneetlibre (talk • contribs) 15:11, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
- ACK re Rachel Lambert Mellon; Elisabeth Murdoch is listed. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 07:02, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
Nguyen Ngoc Tho
I checked the article and noticed Nguyen has been added. Is he even still alive? His Wiki page lists nothing past 1964 other than "his activities after leaving politics is not known". No 100th birthday report or anything. 18.104.22.168 (talk) 10:48, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
I removed Leopold Engleitner] since from his article, it seems he is not notable for anything other than his longevity. He spent time during WWII in concentration camps (as did many people). All the sources are in the last 10 years, when he was already considerably old. No sources it seems documenting how he was famous before old age. I therefore removed him because people entered here should be famous for reasons other than their longevity. People such as Harry Patch who were even given awards for their service and not included since they were not notable other than due to their longevity. If Engleitner is notable for reasons other than his longevity then there should be mentions of him prior to the late 1990s.. SiameseTurtle (talk) 14:35, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
Alexander Imich taken off
- He was removed in this edit. The reason given was being over 109. He should be reinstated, a 110 year old is still a centenarian. Furthermore, Leila Denmark was included here until her death aged 114. CommanderLinx (talk) 22:04, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
Topazia Alliata of Salaparuta
I propose to include in the list of centenarians, Topazia Alliata of Salaparuta, born on 5th september 1913, mother of the writer Dacia Maraini and wife of Fosco Maraini. More information in Italian page of Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk) 19:12, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
It seems like this isn't merely "List of living centenarians" but a "List of notable living centenarians". I think the title of the article doesn't reflect the content of the list. Liz Read! Talk! 22:23, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
- It is against wiki policy/guidelines to include the word "notable" in an article title. DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 22:48, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
Why has Claudio Cianca been included in this list?
Olaf Pooley was removed supposedly because his age is disputed, yet there are NO references that say his age is disputed, so why should anybody take the word of just one person. Williamb (talk) 00:16, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
Neal Ardens death is mentioned on this Facebook-page:
HERE IS NEIL ARDENS OBITUARY:
There is currently a discussion about what constitutes encyclopedia content on longevity related biographies at Talk:Gertrude Weaver#What is appropriately encyclopedic content for longevity related biographies please comment. I am One of Many (talk) 18:42, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Shivakumara Swamiji is still alive as of Oct 20th 2014 but was deleted
Shivakumara swamiji is alive and surfing: http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=272569
Centenarians with articles on non-English Wikipedia?
A suggestion that I would like to put forward is that we could add to this list centenarians who have Wikipedia articles in other languages, and include links to them, rather like this:
|LucenaElena Lucena (es)||1914||100 years, 129 days||Argentine actress, singer, and dancer|
The person above certainly seems to be notable, in her own country at least. So would it not be a good idea to include her? It could also encourage people to create new articles on the English Wikipedia.
- I support such an extension because the subject of centenarians reaches well beyond the English-language world and is of interest everywhere. I think the English Wikipedia is the fall-back version for many non-English speakers because of its enormous size; these readers would certainly benefit from such an inclusion. Note that the list of living centenarians has no interwiki links at all. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 13:00, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, Michael. I will begin to make some of these additions.
- What stops the creation of an English language version of a non-English wiki article? DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 19:40, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
Nothing, apart from the fact that it's not practical for me to create an article for each one (I'm not even sure I'd know how to create a brand new article). I hope that putting these people on this article will encourage other people to create articles, in the same way that adding these people to Deaths in 2014 leads to the creation of articles.