Talk:List of oldest dogs

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Cats?[edit]

Isn't there a cat list on here? I'm not finding one. I'm surprised, too, since cats typically live longer than most dogs. --24.20.129.18 (talk) 04:46, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

I agree 100 percent. There should be a cat list. -

Bluey and Others Over 24 Yrs of Age: "Dog" Entry on Wikipedia Says "NO!"[edit]

Wikipedia contradicts itself because the Wikipedia page on the entry for "Dog" claims the following in Section 4.1.1 entitled "Mortality":

The dog widely reported to be the longest-lived is "Bluey," who died in 1939 and was claimed to be 29.5 years old at the time of his death; however, the Bluey record is anecdotal and unverified.[124] The longest verified records are of dogs living for 24 years.[124]

So my question is, wtf is going on here? The great Wikipedia contradicts itself once again, and the problem of moderators on one entry not being on the same page as moderators in another entry rears its ugly head. Clearly at least one of these two entries MUST be false with complete and utter bogus, hogwash, b.s., for content. In fact, it's possible BOTH entries have it wrong, and the truth is that no one knows and conflicting reports, both from reputable sources, exist, and both entries are claiming that one or another side of the argument is "the truth". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.3.109.197 (talk) 03:46, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

Moving from unverified to verified[edit]

Wikipedia is not a web-hosting service for Guinness. Verified vs. unverified cannot be Guinness vs all other sources.

I'm undertaking a review of the sources for the unverified. If a reliable source reports that a dog is a particular age, it belongs in the "verified" group. It's important to read the sories and not just the headlines.

If a source just says "believed to be" a certain age, and Guinness disagrees, that belongs in the unverified column. But if a reliable source says the dog was a certain age, and says "believed to be the oldest in the country" that's verified, even if Guinness doesn't agree.

Once I'm done (I'll try to do it all today), let's talk about the close cases here. David in DC (talk) 16:37, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Mind-numbingly, aggravating work. I'll come back to try to review more refs, but I'm taking a break. Others welcome to pitch in. Please do not revert this to a page that treats only GWR as a reliable source. Beyond that, tho, please feel free to review sources. The ones I havent looked at, at all, are those below #3 in the unverified list. David in DC (talk) 19:08, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Okay, y'all appear to have gotten rid of all vestige of the 'unverified' list, except that the actual text of the article still makes extensive reference to it, including to specific dogs on it and to the Guinness records as the authoritative source. And I can't fix that, since I have no idea how you eventually ended up ruling as far as the list vs the Guinness list goes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.218.47.156 (talk) 07:03, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

There are older cats[edit]

I met one in 1970 that was still around in 2002 before I retired, so 32+ for the felines. Anyone feel like making a page? The fictional dog Charlie in "The Final Countdown" was only about 3 or 4, but lived from the 1940's to the 1980's. That would be a record if they had pedigreed him. :-) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.230.222.98 (talk) 01:25, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Oldest pets on record[edit]

http://mysmelly.com/content/other_articles/oldest-pets-on-record/revision/1.htm --Nick Ornstein (talk) 01:00, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Another dog[edit]

Well, this can not be verified by any means, but in the 1990s I remember a Hungarian vizsla in our neighbourhood in the 13th district of Budapest that was claimed to be over 21 years old, and indeed he looked like so. I just started breeding German Shepherds back then. Nobody has ever recorded this, and I don't even remember its owner. Unfortunately not even the name of the dog. Does this count? :)

My name is Melissa Dutton,I have a Chow Sheppard she is 19 yrs old.She has been such a blessing to my life.I hope and pray I have her many more yrs to come. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.111.104.146 (talk) 17:37, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Sources issue[edit]

I'm concerned with the lack of updated sources on this page, I mean do we really know that some of these dogs are still alive?

When Pusuke died he was the world's oldest dog according to Guinness World Records and yet according to this page Max and Minius (both still living) were older than him at the time of his death. I think we should be asking why that was. Was the reason that Max and Minius were unverified by Guinness, or have they died and their deaths have gone unreported. I've looked for news articles on both of them and can't find anything later than the sources already presented here, and these sources date back a few years each.

I know that we can't just assume that a particular dog has died without any sources to prove, but I think it may be a problem with this page that these cases are reported less in the media than, say, longevity cases in humans. It's always easy to come across when the world's oldest person passes away, it's reported quite thoroughly, but this may not be the case for our animal friends.

I'm aware that this issue will be difficult to solve, but it would eventually become a problem if a lack of sources meant a certain dog was to appear to have immortality. Burbridge92 (talk) 10:45, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

This needs to be followed up and I believe many of these listings removed. After a couple of years and attempts to verify, there has yet to be any citations added. Remove all unsourced dogs.Seola (talk) 02:47, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
Also curious if this page could be merged with another as once unsourced lists are removed, makes for a very unimpressive entry that reads in a few tables off a page of Guinness.Seola (talk) 02:48, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Pusuke and Max[edit]

Thebirdlover took off the World's oldest dog box from Pusuke. [1] Max (dog) died before actually being recognized by Guinness World Records. CallawayRox (talk) 18:45, 20 August 2013 (UTC)