Talk:List of renamed places in India

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Request for Dates[edit]

Would it be possible to list the dates at which the renames occured? --Ben Houston 22:10, 16 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dates were added where available. -- 85.181.14.0 15:30, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Plain silly[edit]

A Scotsman, I do not mind Edinburgh, being Edimburgo in Italian and Spanish, Edinborg in Icelandic, Edinburgas in Lithuanian. likewise the Italians do not seem to mind their cities being known by English names, eg. Leghorn, Livorno; Florence, Firenze; Naples, Napoli etc. Why is it that there is such a problem with people referring to Bombay, Calcutta and Madras by their accepted and common names in the English language? By all means the use of the local vernacular name should be used when speaking the language, but not in English. When I go to the city in Sweden, I do not go to Goteborg, I go to Gothenburg. Brendandh 21:17, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

well, it is silly... but people continue to call the places the names they are popularly known by. for instance, you'd have a tough time getting a cab to take you to rajiv chowk in delhi, but everyone knows connaught place (or "palace"). on the other hand, the only person who would know the place verapoly would be the archbishop of verapoly... everyone else knows varapuzha. bombay, calcutta, bangalore and madras are still known by those names amongst those who speak english as a first-ish language. and will continue to be known by those names for a while to come... jo se ph 19:34, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

At least in the case of bombay, that name continues to be commonly used by many of the cities residents, as well as by many in India in general. As i understand it, the name change was instigated by a far-right Indian-fascist political party when they were briefly in power back in 1996, due to their anti-British ideology. Even the Russians do not insist that in English speaking countries refer to their capital as Moskva!

Firejuggler86 (talk) 22:31, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Name change proposal[edit]

I would like this to be renamed List of public places in India renamed after independence, so that other renamings could be entered. It hasn't been just cities and states, it's at least two airports: Leh Kushok Bakula Rimpochee Airport [1], Indira Gandhi International Airport, quite a few major streets and roads, like the Grand Trunk Road, [2], more examples here [3], at least one square [4], Indira Gandhi Centre for Atomic Research. I'd imagine there'd be other public places, memorials, landmarks, universities, monuments (e.g. Ochterlony Monument) etc. Novickas (talk) 19:25, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - This list will be long enough with just cities and states. If there are a good number of other notable landmarks (besides cities and states) that were renamed after India's independence, then perhaps a new article can be created for them. If you were to create such an article, I would caution you to only include notable landmarks. A good rule of thumb is that if a landmark already has its own wiki article, then it's probably notable. Filling up a new list with a bunch of non-notable streets and parks will just cause it to be nominated for deletion again. SnottyWong ^comment 20:49, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support I agree with Novickas and had the Grand Trunk Road in mind myself too. Other notable features such as the Ganges/Ganga river would be appropriate too. As we have the precedent of List of renamed places in the United States, our article should conform to this, as suggested by Shyamsunder. In the US case, the list includes parks like Mount McKinley National Park and special places like Cape Canaveral. Notable examples such as these demonstrate that it is best to have a general name and scope rather than a narrow one. Colonel Warden (talk) 22:17, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support - I'm fine with this as long as we establish that only notable entries can be included in this list so that it doesn't fall foul of WP:NOTDIR. Claritas § 22:46, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment To avoid confusion, we should be clear about the multiplicity of issues here which seem to include:

The notability of the features. In other words, should we just include features with their own articles or limit by notability in some other way, e.g. by provision of a specific source.
The scope of the list topographically. In other words, should the list just cover specific kinds of features such as cities or should it cover any notable type of feature - airport, mountain, lake, palace or whatever.
The scope of the list in time. In other words, should we be considering name changes related to Independence, Partition or other major historical events.

My position on these separate points is that we should keep the list general in scope topographically and in time but should do some pruning of lesser features after some research. When we have a good general list of notable features, we will then be in a better position to assess how the list might best be subdivided into separate sections or sublists.

Colonel Warden (talk) 22:52, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's probably better to keep the list as narrow as possible - only to list notable streets etc., to prevent clutter (I've removed all the non-notable entries already) and to limit it to places renamed as a result of independence. I'd still support limiting it to cities and states, but consensus seems to be against meon that one. Claritas § 09:02, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support This will be a useful list. We should restrict the entries to name changes made post-independence and only places/landmarks with their own articles shoule be included. If over the years the list grows to ummanageable level we can then think of creating such lists for the states of India. Shyamsunder (talk) 09:26, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose the current name appropriately restricts scope to notable and important name changes. Verbal chat 09:58, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I agree with User:Verbal and User:Snottywong the current name appropriately restricts scope to notable and important name changes. once it get unmanageable then we can think renaming to limit it but currently there no need to rename it. KuwarOnline ^Talk 14:32, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep current name of List of renamed Indian cities and states - Like Verbal, Snottywong, and KuwarOnline, I think the current name defines a scope that is both meaningful and manageable. When one starts to create a list, it becomes apparent that the frequency of name changes for features like airports, universities, notable streets, lakes, etc., is surprisingly high. (For an example, see List of university and college name changes in the United States. The length of that list, which has a fairly narrow scope and actually is very incomplete, is one thing that leads me to think that renamings are far too commonplace to be documented in broad-scope lists.) A list that attempted to include all such name changes in India over the last 60+ years would be unmanageably large -- and largely trivial. IMO, this list should continue to be limited to cities and states that have been given new "Indian names" since independence. There may be merit in creating other focused lists of renamings -- such as "List of Indian institutions named for Indira Gandhi" or "List of renamed roads in Bangalore" (or should that be "List of renamed roads in Bengaluru"?), but for the benefit of both contributors and users, each list should have a relatively narrow scope. --Orlady (talk) 20:45, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 28 May 2017[edit]

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Andrewa (talk) 14:29, 5 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

List of renamed Indian cities and states → List of renamed places in India – As per List of renamed places in the United States and existing entries which include, towns, provinces as well.--Vin09 (talk) 13:50, 28 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support Clearly matches the topic more appropriately. AusLondonder (talk) 17:44, 28 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support Because, there are many renamed places in India, cities and states only form a fraction.--IM3847 (talk) 06:59, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 07:46, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

History[edit]

See also the discussion above of course.

04:11, 5 July 2010‎ Orlady (talk | contribs | block)‎ . . (54 bytes) (+54)‎ . . (moved List of renamed places in India to List of renamed Indian cities and states over redirect: Restoring the name that was adopted less than 24 hours ago as a result of AfD. Maybe it needs a different name, but frequent moves are disruptive.)
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2010 July 13#List of renamed places in India
04:13, 5 July 2010 Orlady (talk | contribs | block) protected List of renamed Indian cities and states ‎[move=sysop] (indefinite) (Move warring: Discussion may lead to adopting a new name, but the continued warring is disruptive) and this move protection was still in place.

And probably more that I've missed, in particular the AfD discussion mentioned, but which I cannot find. But the first was overwritten by the move, and the second explains a lot. Andrewa (talk) 14:29, 5 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Merging with other articles and Spreadsheet capability required[edit]

As far as Indian lists are concerned there are at least three. There should only be one. That should be reserved for here. There is also a list at List of city name changes and also (STILL) one at Renaming of cities in India. There may be more... This is crazy. One list would cut down a lot on administration and make the whole process of cataloguing more efficient. In addition we should think of formatting the list in a way that would lend itself to downloading onto a spreadsheet. BeckenhamBear (talk) 15:01, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi[edit]

Cool Govind s choudhary (talk) 16:29, 7 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]