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Problems with this list[edit]

This list is problematic and shall be repaired, because:

  • Bozena - was second wife, not concubine
  • Agnes of Kuering and "Palcerik" - was same person
  • Sigismund - was not father of John Hunyadi, it was legend invented by Gáspár Heltai
  • Matthias Corvinus - was not King of Bohemia, only antiking, ruling sometimes in eastern parts of the Kingdom
  • Rudolph II - his affair with Catherine Strada is well known, but his homosexuality is only opinion of A. L. Rowse. Because the King is fathered six kids, and his homoseuality is not mentioned in other works, it is dubious, at best. In any case, this is list of mistresses.
  • Charles VII - only antiking
  • Francis I - never king of Bohemia or Hungary

So list is cleaned. --Yopie (talk) 00:59, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your attention to my work but you removed some part of my editing without sources beacuse your claims are not proved, they are only your private opinion, and you have some mistakes, my answers are below:

  • Bozena - was second wife, not concubine some sources claim that first she was a concubine then she became a wife, a citation from the relevant wiki article: "Božena (Křesinová) (died after 1052) was the second wife (and probably earlier the mistress) of Duke Oldřich of Bohemia and mother of Bretislaus I of Bohemia." See Božena (Křesinová)
  • Agnes of Kuering and "Palcerik" - was same person my sources claim that they were different persons, see Charles Cawley:

"Mistress (1): --- Palczierzik, daughter of ---. The Chronica Pragensis (Chronicon Francisci) names "filium…Nicolaum, et postea filias plures" as the children of "Rex Przsemysl" and his mistress named "Palczierzik"[320]. Mistress (2): AGNES von Kuenring, daughter of ---. The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified. King Otakar Přemysl II had seven illegitimate children by Mistress (1):

5. NIKOLAUS ([1255]-25 Jul 1318). The Chronica Pragensis (Chronicon Francisci) names "filium…Nicolaum, et postea filias plures" as the children of "Rex Przsemysl" and his mistress named "Palczierzik", adding that he was later invested as "Dux Opauiæ"[329]. He was legitimated 6 Oct 1360, but excluded from succession to the throne of Bohemia 20 Oct 1260. Herr von Troppau 4 Jul 1269. Ritter 1273. He was installed in 1281 as NIKOLAUS I Duke of Troppau.

- DUKES of TROPPAU.

6. [AGNES] . The Chronica Pragensis (Chronicon Francisci) names "filium…Nicolaum, et postea filias plures" as the children of "Rex Przsemysl" and his mistress named "Palczierzik"[330]. The primary source which confirms her name and marriage has not yet been identified. m [BAVOR III] Herr von Strakonicz, son of ---.

7. daughter. The Chronica Pragensis (Chronicon Francisci) names "filium…Nicolaum, et postea filias plures" as the children of "Rex Przsemysl" and his mistress named "Palczierzik"[331]. The primary source which confirms her marriage has not yet been identified. m --- Herr von Wartenberg, son of ---.

8. daughter. The Chronica Pragensis (Chronicon Francisci) names "filium…Nicolaum, et postea filias plures" as the children of "Rex Przsemysl" and his mistress named "Palczierzik"[332]. The primary source which confirms her marriage has not yet been identified. m ([1276]) WOK Herr von Krawarz, son of --- (-[1329]).

9. JESEK ([1265/70]-26 Aug 1296, bur Wysehrad). The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. Priest at Wysehrad 1290.

10. ELISABETH . The Chronica Pragensis (Chronicon Francisci) names "filium…Nicolaum, et postea filias plures" as the children of "Rex Przsemysl" and his mistress named "Palczierzik"[333]. The primary source which confirms her marriage has not yet been identified. m VIKARD Herr von Polna Burggraf of Brno. 1303.

11. daughter. The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified. m (after May 1277) --- Herr von Weitra, son of ---.

King Otakar Přemysl II had one illegitimate child by Mistress (2):

12. ELISABETH . The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified. m (1275) HEINRICH [V] von Kuenring, (-Troppau Jul 1281). Herr zu Weitra 1280.

and the wiki article does not cliam, too that they were the same persons, see Agnes of Kuenring

  • Sigismund - was not father of John Hunyadi, it was legend invented by Gáspár Heltai it is not proved that he was not his illegitimate son, a citation from wiki article: "His many affairs with women led to the birth of several legends, as the one that existed decades later during the reign of the King Matthias Corvinus of Hungary. According to this, John Hunyadi was Sigismund's illegitimate son. Sigismund gave a ring to the boy's mother when he was born, but one day in the forest a raven stole it from her, and the ring was only recovered after the bird was hunted down. It is said that this incident inspired the coat of arms of the Hunyadis, and later also appeared in the coat of arms of Matthias "Corvinus".[12]" See Sigismund, Holy Roman Emperor
  • Matthias Corvinus - was not King of Bohemia, only antiking, ruling sometimes in eastern parts of the Kingdom he was crowned as king of Bohemia, he is considered as king of Bohemia, so despite your personal opinion, he is listed among the Bohemian rulers, a citation from the wiki article: "After conducting several military campaigns he became also King of Bohemia (1469–1490), and Duke of Austria (1486–1490).[1][2]", see Matthias Corvinus
  • Rudolph II - his affair with Catherine Strada is well known, but his homosexuality is only opinion of A. L. Rowse. Because the King is fathered six kids, and his homoseuality is not mentioned in other works, it is dubious, at best. In any case, this is list of mistresses. A citation from the wiki article: " It has been proposed by A. L. Rowse that he was homosexual. During his periods of self-imposed isolation, Rudolf reportedly had affairs with his court chamberlain, Wolfgang von Rumpf, and a series of valets. One of these, Philip Lang, ruled him for years and was hated by those seeking favour with the emperor.[3] Rudolf was known, in addition, to have had a succession of affairs with women, some of whom claimed to have been impregnated by him.[2] He had several illegitimate children with his mistress Catherina Strada.", see Rudolf II, Holy Roman Emperor
  • Charles VII - only antiking Citation from the wiki article: "So Charles Albert was crowned King of Bohemia in Prague (19 December 1741)", see Charles VII, Holy Roman Emperor
  • Francis I - never king of Bohemia or Hungary Her spouse Maria Theresia took him as associate king after her enthronement, e.g. on 21 September 1741 he took an oath as king of Hungary in Bratislava. A citation from relevant wiki article: "and she made him co-regent of her hereditary dominions." See Francis I, Holy Roman Emperor

Please Do not remove my editing without consensus, the article must be mirrorred by the opininion of not only one person!Borgatya (talk) 06:27, 12 December 2013 (UTC)