Talk:List of wars involving Saudi Arabia

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"Deposit war"?[edit]

Could anyone who speek and write Arabic perhaps consider translating this article? Your help will be deeply appreciated. --Mikrobølgeovn (talk) 23:52, 17 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Sa'dah War and the Bahraini uprising[edit]

I don't really think the Bahraini uprising is to be considered a war, because of the low casualty rate and the lack of military and/or paramilitary activity on either side. I think we should mention the uprising in this article, but at the same time not present it as a war.

Concerning the Saudi military actions against Houthi rebels on Saudi territory in 2009-10, I believe it's obvious that this is to be considered a military victory of the Saudi Arabian army because they achieved their goals while the Houthis were forced to retreat. I would be more than interested in hearing Kermanshahi's opinions on this.

With regards, --Mikrobølgeovn (talk) 22:16, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think the Sa'dah conflict was actually a clear Saudi defeat. It was a disastrous defeat for them and a major embarassment for their army. Saudis attempted to intervene on behalf of the Yemeni government instead their attack was very ineffective and eventually even led to Houthis seizing control of various areas in Saudi Arabia sacking several military bases, capturing weapons while Saudi forces were filmed fleeing from battle. They took heavy casualties and inflicted only very light casualties. A cease-fire was negotiated in which Houthis agreed to stop attacks in KSA if Saudi forces stopped attacks on Sa'dah. In the end Houthis consolidated control in Sa'dah province and Saleh regime suffered a major setback. Now ofcourse who won is disputed since Saudis declared anyway despite the gross failure of their intervention and therfore the article itself Operation Scorched Earth says the outcome was Indecisive. Although, if you look at the aftermath, it's clear that the Houthis benefited greatly from this conflict and it's what led to their complete control of Sa'dah in 2011 eventually. So although militarily indecisive, a strategic victory for the Houthis and a tactical defeat for Saudi invasion. Now I know the Saudi King claims the Houthis are the ones which started attacks on KSA and not the other way around, but this is all very disputed and unclear.Kermanshahi (talk) 18:17, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for pointing this clear. If this is correct, I sincerely apologize for reverting you earlier. However, it would be nice if you could back this up with appropriate sources, as the article the list refers to does not narrate it that way. If you could do that, we'll settle this in your way.
Furtermore, I'm still not sure why you listed the Bahraini uprising as a war. According to the article itself, it's a so-called "non-violent revolution". Unless the opposition resorts to militant tactics, I don't think it belongs in the table (but we'll include it nevertheless, just someplace else in order to avoid causing confusion).
Have a nice evening (depending on your location), and thanks for contributing. --Mikrobølgeovn (talk) 20:05, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

My opinion - Bahraini uprising is not a war (can be mentioned in a small list of 'other conflicts' below), North Yemen Civil War was participated by Saudi Arabia both in logistics and in troop support, especially in the early stages of war.Greyshark09 (talk) 21:38, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Could you prove this by providing sources? As far as I know, Saudi Arabia only suffered casualties in Egyptian border raids. I might of course be wrong, but it would be nice if you could be specific and either provide sources or alternatively find out if this is mentioned in the article. --Mikrobølgeovn (talk) 10:59, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Frankly i've been going through sources and so far found that Saudis lost around 1000 men in border skirmishes with the Egyptians in the early stages of the war. At some point Egyptian President Nasser said that his attacks on Saudi soil was due to the fact that Saudis heavily supplied the royalists (a true claim), but he would stop attacks only when Saudis stop the supplies, which eventually did happen around 1965. Egyptians however also had eventually to withdraw their forces from Yemen as you know. I think this is sufficient to include Saudis not just as a supporter but as a side in this conflict, even though they never intended in entering the war themselves.Greyshark09 (talk) 19:56, 16 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
That would be the same as listing Thailand as a combatant in the Cambodian-Vietnamese War, or Tunisia in the Libyan civil war. But if we are going to include the war in the table, it would be preferable to know the precise results of these clashes. That means determining whether it was a loss or a tie by looking at the results of the 1960's skirmishes, not the eventual results of the war in 1970. --Mikrobølgeovn (talk) 20:15, 16 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thailand and Tunisia arm and support one of the sides in addition to sporadic border clashes?Greyshark09 (talk) 21:40, 21 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
At least Thailand did. However, I have no problem with including the North Yemeni civil war in this article as long as we limit the result row to the exact outcome of the Egyptian border raids rather than focusing on the events in the late 60's, which did not largely affect Saudi Arabia. Feel free to add it if you want to. --Mikrobølgeovn (talk) 16:51, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
sounds a reasonable suggestion.Greyshark09 (talk) 16:47, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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there is missing[edit]

Can someone add this war also?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expedition_to_Najd_(1836) Overvecht3301 (talk) 12:46, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Clean up[edit]

I have cleaned up the list per WP:V and WP:LISTCRITERIA. The article had previously been tagged for sourcing and cleanup.

The list has a clear criteria in both the title and lede: this is a "list of wars involving the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and its predecessor states". Article developed a good deal of list spam that clearly does not meet the article criteria. There were a number of entries that do not have sources or articles supporting their inclusion.

Content should not be added to the list unless it meets the article list criteria. Information in the list entries either needs to be sourced in the wikilinked main article or have a verifiable reliable source as a reference in the list.  // Timothy :: talk  00:23, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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