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Merging[edit]

Shouldn't this article be merged with the main article? (Lithium ion battery) --Clickheretologin 15:42, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

No. That article is about rechargable batteries only. --Gbleem 22:35, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
So, this article would be called disposable lithium batteries. Li ion and Li disposable are lithium batteries.In any case, there are also rechargeable lithium metal batteries [1]--Mac (talk) 11:58, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

"The most common type of lithium cell used in consumer applications uses metallic lithium as anode and manganese dioxide as cathode, with a salt of lithium dissolved in an organic solvent."

Is the salt the electrolyte? --Gbleem 22:28, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

An opinion:[edit]

Lithium-containing cells have two main types: primary (i.e. non-rechargeable) and secondary (i.e. rechargeable).

References: http://www.mpoweruk.com/lithiumP.htm, http://www.mpoweruk.com/lithiumS.htm

Referring to the photos shown, it is better to label the leftmost photo as anode (i.e. negative) cup and the rightmost photo as cathode (i.e. positive) can. Without indicating the polarity of the cell, it is confusing because the can/cap showing the positive sign on its top (e.g. the photo of CR2032 lithium battery) was placed upside down. (posted by 124.244.94.180 and moved to talk by --Gbleem 22:46, 16 December 2006 (UTC))

Which is which?[edit]

Which battery chemistry is used by my Energizer E2 Photo Lithium Technology 2.5V?

Ok I found it in the chart.

Which is the one used for rechargable laptop batteries?

"The most common consumer grade battery, about 80% of the lithium battery market." Is the first one on the chart the common laptop battery? I'm guessing the disposable battery sells more units.

--Gbleem 23:05, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Thionyl chloride[edit]

The article states that thionyl chloride is generally not used in batteries sold to consumers. However, I once attempted to dismantle a consumer lithium battery (disposable, size AA 1.5 volts). The battery shorted out, and the electrolyte began to boil. I accidentally inhaled some of the fumes, which were very irritating, similar to hydrochloric acid fumes. If this was not thionyl chloride, what was it (it seems unlikely that an organic solvent would have this property)? --Pyrochem 03:45, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

table needed[edit]

It would be good to include a table of the most common ones -- or at least include a link to a complete table of such.-69.87.204.2 22:21, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Quite. This article is about as much use as a chocolate teapot. I've got no idea about lithium batteries, tried to buy a replacement for a TV remote control (bought the wrong one), and wanted to know about the codes (whether they are preceeded by 'CR' or not), because although I know about conventional codes like AA and AAA, I find them quite baffling. Duracell's website was less than useless. I was hoping for a bit of sanity here, but was disappointed. Come on, boffins, how about a TABLE? Iantnm (talk) 16:15, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

shelf life[edit]

What are optimum long-term shelf storage conditions? Just above freezing?-69.87.204.2 23:01, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Any body know what the shelf life of the common Li-Mn battery is? http://www.bodylighting.com/Product_Details.asp?s=google&ProductID=84 Says two years, but I'm skeptical.

I know of people, who used lithium b attery 10 years in a computer mothgerboard and there system clock and cmos memory still works. 2 years would rather be a restriction for people, who sell these batteries. --MrBurns (talk) 14:45, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Chemistries[edit]

I'm surmising that CR for Li-MnO2 refers to the CR prefix of watch batteries? If so, this could be made clearer. One might make the connection given the "CR" in the table, but you might not. If you happen to read the caption of the disassembled battery it's "obvious" but that's not the best, sole location for information. And what, praytell, does CR mean? --Belg4mit 16:44, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

I'd also like to know more about this. A guy in a shop told me that the 3V batteries come in different thicknesses, and that I can only use one type for a given device. But he admitted he had no idea why this is.

The part number often specifies the diameter and thickness of the cell. A CR2032 is 20mm in diameter and 3.2mm thick. 80.45.129.137 (talk) 10:20, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Decameter[edit]

Are you really using decimetres cubed as the volume unit in the battery density? Seems pretty random but if it is standard, then whatever. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.9.221.126 (talk) 22:28, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

It is decimetres cubed (one tenth of a metre). From what I have found, this appears to be standard for battery power density, although I agree, random. A cubic decimetre is the same as a litre, so I suppose this 'standard' might stem from rechargeable cells which have refillable liquid electrolyte (e.g. car batteries). FYI the symbol for decimetres is 'dm'. 194.169.32.250 (talk) 14:17, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Lithim metal for anode or cathode?[edit]

In this article in English mentions:

Lithium batteries are disposable (primary) batteries that have lithium metal or lithium compounds as an anode.

In other article in Japanese mentions:

Lithium metal is used as cathode. (Translation)

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%AA%E3%83%81%E3%82%A6%E3%83%A0%E9%9B%BB%E6%B1%A0

I believe it should be correct the Japanese article in this point. Could someone confirm which is correct anode or cathode? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.137.94.18 (talk) 18:42, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Lithium battery Vs. Silver-oxide battery Vs. Aluminium battery[edit]

Witch one of them is the best, Does anyone know?

http://www.europositron.com/fi/index.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.249.84.97 (talk) 19:10, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Cell or Battery[edit]

"Battery" is the collective noun for cells (as it once was for fixed guns). A cell is a single reaction container with an anode and a cathode. A battery is a collection of such, packaged together into a single unit and usually connected in series for higher voltages. With traditional zinc-carbon technology, a 1.5V unit is a cell and 6V, 9V and 12V units are batteries of four, six and eight cells, respectively.

This article seems to use the terms interchangeably. With one exception (the 9V battery) all the pictures are of cells and, therefore, mislabelled.

I understand that language changes and that many people use "battery" to describe both battery and cell without any knowledge of or thought about the meanings of the words but I am disappointed to see an encyclopaedia not even acknowledge the original (and, in my view, correct) meanings. Am I over pedantic?

80.45.129.137 (talk) 10:16, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

I would like to second this concern. The word "battery" needs to be changed to "cell" in most places in this article, including the title. Wikipedia is widely promoted as a "free online encyclopedia", and the purpose of an encyclopedia is to provide accurate information, not colloquial 'folk wisdom.' Despite the fact that many people incorrectly call cells "batteries", cell is the correct term for devices having only a single reaction chamber. This article is primarily about lithium cells, not lithium batteries. Confirmation of the correct usage of the terms "cell" and "battery" may be found in any first-year college physics text, such as Fundamentals of Physics, by Resnick and Halliday.
If no one else is interested in correcting this article, I will do it myself, when I find the time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.95.43.249 (talk) 20:23, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

pic format[edit]

The big centered picture blocks a side picture on my netbook. Please someone fix. --68.193.135.139 (talk) 23:00, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Creating a Catalogue/Table of battery types and Specifications[edit]

How about having an overview of Battery Types with Specifications and Sizes?
e.g.:
CR2025, 20mm Dia, 2.5mm
CR2032, 20mm Dia, 3.2mm

Check out Button cell and Battery nomenclature and List of battery sizes. --Wtshymanski (talk) 03:03, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Combine "Air travel" and "Transportation" sections?[edit]

Both of these include reference to airmail restrictions and it seems that they would be better combined. At the least they should be consecutive. Daveemtb (talk) 10:58, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

History?[edit]

No mention here of first development, testing, manufacturing, or use. (comment from article feedback) --Lexein (talk) 17:27, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Secondary Batteries[edit]

I noticed several secondary batteries listed in this article. It seems like they belong here rather than in Lithium-ion battery, but the definition of Lithium battery would have to be changed to reflect this. I suggest to draw the line at electrode material and say they are mostly primary. Any insights on how these cells are actually classified in academic and industrial literature would be appreciated. 1wonjae (talk) 22:36, 29 November 2013 (UTC)