Talk:Llywelyn the Great

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Page name[edit]

I've moved this back from Llywelyn Fawr ap Iorwerth, after Seancdaug moved it there, in accordance with the Manual of Style. — OwenBlacker 11:42, Nov 12, 2004 (UTC)

Pronunciation[edit]

It would be nice if someone could add a pronounciation guide for Llywelyn. Ahassan05 12:59, 9 April 2006 (UTC)ahassan05 Llyw-el-yn rhymes with "Dew"-"tell"-"in" with the LL st the start proniunced by putting tongue at top of mouth and sort of breathing in.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.6.149.18 (talk) 17:08, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Lliterature on Llywelyn that is not Lloyd[edit]

Here's a quick list of works that could be used to bring the literature more up-to-date:

Lampman (talk) 11:58, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Susanna ferch Llywelyn[edit]

If anyone has a source for this individual, please cite it. Lloyd and Turvey (the former the father of modern Welsh historiography and the latter Llywelyn's most recent biographer) make no mention of her, Pryce doesn't mention her in Acts of Welsh Rulers 1120-1283 (Univ. Wales Press, 2005), and she is not even in the comprehensive late medieval and early modern genealogies listed in Bartrum (Cardiff, 1973). (Even Tegwared ferch Llywelyn is listed there!) A note appended to her biographical entry mentioned that she was confused with Elen, but the only refs I've ever found to her are in fiction. Ynyrhesolaf (talk) 00:24, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Stone head listed under External Links[edit]

There is a stone head carving listed under External Links. The listing says the head is now thought to be a carving of Henry III. I followed the link to the Gathering the Jewels website. It still says the carving is thought to be a likeness of Llywelyn the Great. If the person that added this statement about Henry III has another source for the identification of the individual, they should add where they got that information. Apparently the Gathering the Jewels website still feels its Llywelyn. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ninanta (talkcontribs) 21:47, 31 May 2011 (UTC)