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Link to Ora is wrong[edit]

The link to the South African Ora currency is wrong - it leads to the page of a political party in Kosovo. I couldn't find a page on the Ora in Wikipedia. However here is a photo of this currency: http://le.org.nz/tiki-index.php?page=ccGalleryA04#orania

No citations at all[edit]

I will get to work...soon.... Ethan Mitchell 19:14, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Nova Roma[edit]

Don't know where this fits here, but the virtual state of Nova Roma has produced real coins of value 0.50 USD: http://www.novaroma.org/wiki/Coin_%28Nova_Roma%29 - Zwiebeltuete 2006-09-07 0:00 UTC

ROCS error[edit]

I dont know how to fix this - but the link about the ROCS local currency leads to an article about Chineese Navy --Aryah 18:16, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

The Berliner bills[edit]

Can someone add this to the article please? --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 06:31, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

POV conflict here[edit]

This page only emphasises what happens if one small municipal community (such as Wörgl) introduces local currency. This is of course a far cry from examining what happens if all municipal communities would adopt their own currency, notwithstanding that this would of course effectively terminate the national currencies. In effect, the article relates that Wörgl trusted all the other municipals of Austria to withhold the standard of the national currency (Schilling) - and foreigners to believe that it had remained so. This is simply a confidence trick, as the emergence of a local currency had in fact turned the formerly all-Austrian Schilling into an "all-Austrian except Wörgl" currency, with a subsequent small debasement, which would have affected all Austrian citizens. The world was however not quick to realise this - and kept paying for the Schilling at its former rate! This confidence trick aspect must be integrated into the article, which currently suggests that local currencies could really solve problems. Sponsianus (talk) 20:21, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

How does a local currency come into existence?[edit]

I wanted to add a section to Fiat currency on the subject of Local Currencies, which I believe [ WP:OR!] are fiat currencies. I had hoped to find a section here, but was surprised to find none. I wonder if it is so obvious to those involved that it hasn't occurred to anyone to write it? Could someone rectify, please? --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 13:01, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

List of local currencies[edit]

The list is a bit of a mess. I'm thinking of making a {{main}} or perhaps a navbox. Thoughts? Cooperation? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:13, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

A bit of a mess to sort out first[edit]

The lead of this article is identical to Community currency. The acronyms all work, and seem okay, except auxiliary currencies, which redirects to Community currency. I don't want to monkey with this because I have a tiny brain when it comes to such concepts. But, I would like to sort it out because I'm ready to make a List of XXXX table format. Example of what I want to do:

Name Type Region Nation Community Start date End date Notes
Bristol Pound Community currency Europe United Kingdom Bristol September 25, 2012 -- It's great. Farmers dig it.

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:33, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

I like the table idea, but is it really necessary to have separate columns for the location? (Region, nation, community). I think that should be a single column. bobrayner (talk) 08:21, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
I just thought for sortability it would be a good idea. I guess we could have a table for each continent, and two columns: nation and community. Thoughts? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:27, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
Well, putting things in national pigeonholes causes half the drama on wikipedia ;-) but if you're sure it's a good idea, I could live with it. bobrayner (talk) 09:06, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
That's a good point. Well, I don't know then. The table should be usable in a way that visitors want. That should be first and foremost. I can imagine visitors wanting to see what's available in their area. What do you suggest? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:11, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
(edit conflict) I agree that this would be a useful addition and that it'd be useful to have separate columns to aid alphabetical sorting. Multiple details in a single column (or even the use of merged rows for tidiness) would preclude this. Following the current layout at #Modern local currencies would put Region, Nation, Community before the currency name itself, so it might be worth reconsidering the order. I think that start/end dates are a very useful addition, if available (but maybe "introduced/discontinued" would be more appropriate wording for the subject matter, if that doesn't make the columns too wide). Regarding WP:LISTN, Find sources: "local currencies" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · JSTOR · free images turns up a few news references (I had to click on "Any time", as "Archives" was the default selection). Non-notable currencies being planned could also be included (maybe using {{pending}}), although probably not redlinked until they're notable. Just my 2p. -- Trevj (talk) 09:14, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Could we try a two-column solution as a compromise? (Continent/region, specific location). If the list builds up any more I expect the examples we find could be a little unbalanced - many more in some parts of the world than others - so it's probably better to have a slightly loose definition of "continent" or whatever. Also, start/end dates would be nice but with many of these projects the date may not be clear (projects like this tend to die slowly rather than suddenly). Sorry, I'm distracting you with minutiæ... bobrayner (talk) 09:19, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

I'm unfamiliar with country-sorted lists, so am not too fussed on this, if others have good reasons for not having multiple columns. For the end dates, that's a good point - maybe if a currency is discontinued it can be stated in the Notes column instead. Finally, it might be worth waiting a while before compiling the list, in order to give further opportunity for others to comment. -- Trevj (talk) 09:24, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
Good thoughts. And, no hurry. This one needs lots of input before starting. Cheers, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:38, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
@Anna Frodesiak, Trevj:It could a good time to implement the table. A useful extra column would be the amount issued/ in circulation. This Bank of England report has the figure for some of the UK currencies. Jonpatterns (talk) 12:33, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Problematic edit[edit]

This edit, while not useless, is problematic because it changed an article about local currency into one that's about various things but gives first billing to the term Community Currency. The preceding revision, did not have this problem and was much clearer (though it contained less information).
EDIT: What's worse, there already is a community currency article, so why try turning this into one?
I'm not quite sure how to solve this. 31.18.251.194 (talk) 22:16, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

See discussion of merger below.Jonpatterns (talk) 12:33, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Lampedusa[edit]

BBC reported that citizens of Lampedusa responding to the 2013 Lampedusa migrant shipwreck are issuing their own local currency, exchangeable for Euros, as part of their efforts to accommodate surviving migrants. It will take some doing to find references, and I'm wondering if it's worth it.—Pawyilee (talk) 10:28, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Wörgl experiment[edit]

This article makes several references to something called the "Wörgl experiment" but nowhere in the article does it explain what this actually was! Leaving any casual reader somewhat baffled! it looks like this article has probably been butchered at some point leaving it totally incoherent. Could someone give it some proper attention? G-13114 (talk) 16:53, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

@G-13114: Agreed, a summary of the Wörgl experiment should be added. An article on the Wörgl experiment would be useful - at the moment all there is on Wikipedia a mention on the Wörgl page. Jonpatterns (talk) 12:20, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Merge from Community currency[edit]

There is a clear consensus to merge Community currency into this article. Armbrust The Homunculus 04:36, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

It has been suggested that Community currency be merged into Local currency. A lot of the content has been put into this article.

YesY Weak support - At the moment I can not think of any currency that is a community currency that isn't also a local currency - excluding online communities. The article suggest a common bond of local, membership or other. I suspect the term may be redundant. However, a mention should be made of the term if the merger goes ahead. Jonpatterns (talk) 12:23, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

  • I agree with Jonpatterns; at the moment they seem to be treated as near-synonyms. bobrayner (talk) 23:26, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.