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Semi-protected edit request on 25 October 2023[edit]

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Addition of a missing surname in the Gujarati Lohana surnames list in the table. Missing surname: Lukka 43.249.228.9 (talk) 20:18, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ayakanaa ( t · c ) 03:23, 3 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sources:

(1) Mention of 'Lukka' at no. 161 in the list of Lohana surnames - https://rooplakhani.blogspot.com/2016/01/few-facts-about-gujrati-caste-lohana.html

(2) President of 'Shree Lohana Mahajan Adityana' is 'Shri Laxmidas L. Lukka'. https://lohanamahaparishad.org/user/Mahajan.aspx

(3) Mention of people with surname Lukka in 'Madhyastha Samiti' of 'SHREE LOHANA MAHAPARISHAD' is is as follows:

MMS ID: Sau-1 / 27 - Shri Jayantilal Laxmidas Lukka

MMS ID: Sau-2 / 34 - Shri Bhadreshkumar Krushnadas Lukka

https://lohanamahaparishad.org/user/Madhyastha.aspx

(4) Mention of 3 people with Lukka surname in the Lohana population page of 'Shree Lohana Samaj Bhayandar':

No. 83 - Lukka Ramesh Jamnadas

No. 112 - Lukka Ramniklal Chaganlal

No. 314 - Lukka Jayantilal Nathalal

(5) Mention of 'Lukka' surname in https://qualityatquality.blogspot.com/2016/05/surname-in-lohana-cast.html Nisargl (talk) 15:26, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 18 November 2023[edit]

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Pls add the surname Raichura in Lohana Gujarati Castes JayRaichura1991 (talk) 19:42, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cannolis (talk) 19:50, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Add surname as Manglani in Sindhi Bhaibandh[edit]

Add surname 'Manglani' in Sindhi Bhaibandh as no seperate section of Sindhi sahiti is mentioned.

There are three categories of sindhis namely amil, sahiti and bhaibandh.

I talked to a pandit ji of Sindh, he told me that now sahiti people have been merged into Sindhi Bhaibandh. Drharishjmanglani (talk) 14:18, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Needs reliable sources. Drmies (talk) 14:39, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sindhis

You may please search 'Manglani'

It is showing under the head of Sindhi Amil Lohana.

If this link is valid then atleast add 'Manglani' in the same head of Bhaibandh.

It is required as the surname is not indicated under any head.

Plz do needful Drharishjmanglani (talk) 15:21, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes Manglani Hirani Udvani Advani Manchandani and many others are Lohanas Sagar Raithatha (talk) 13:40, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 28 January 2024[edit]

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The Lohanas claimare divided into many separate cultural groups as a result of centuries apart in different regions. Thus there are significant todifferences bebetween the descendantsculture, language, professions and societies of LavaGujarati the son ofLohanas, Sindhi Lohanas, and to descend from the RaghuvamshaKutchi dynastyLohanas. Whereas some claim brahminical lineage in chaurishi gotra Chaurasia community from northern Indian which claim Brahmin lineage from saint chaurishi and have some surnames in common ^[1] The Lohanas are divided into many separate cultural groups as a result of centuries apart in different regions. Thus there are significant differences between the culture, language, professions and societies of Gujarati Lohanas, Sindhi Lohanas, and Kutchi Lohanas. 111.125.240.79 (talk) 10:01, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate.GrayStorm^{Talk Contributions} 15:57, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't spread disinformation without any knowledge no one from Lohana community has made such claims.

Lohanas have nothing to do with Brahmin, Rajput, Vaishya Shudra and Lava-Gujarati Chaurasia etc etc.

Historically and Genetically Lohanas have no connection with them.

Most importantly There is nothing called "Gujarati Lohana community"

Lohanas who are also called Arora Khatri in Punjab is Lahori-Sindhi community from Lahore Sindh Baluchistan in Short Lohanas are immigrants in Gujarat Just like Parsi Irani Community in Gujarat.

Also Lohana is an independent Mercentile Community Just Like Parsi and Punjabi Khatri.

Among Muslims Sunni Memons, Miakhels, and Ismaili Khwaja are Muslim Lohanas.

Note - Baniya, Vaniya, Gujarati vaishnav, Vanik, Jain, Modh, Ghanchi, Soni, Baniya, Agarwal, maheshwari etc etc are DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES.

also there's nothing called "Gujarati Lohana" Sagar Raithatha (talk) 13:33, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Lachaier, Pierre. "Cérémonies D'hommage à Sarasvatī Et Aides à L'éducation Chez Les Lohāṇā De Pune." Bulletin De L'École Française D'Extrême-Orient 94 (2007): 27-58. Accessed November 2, 2020. http://www.jstor.org/stable/43733204.

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@Gotitbro Even by ignoring if the Muslim convert groups of this social group are counted or not, are you familiar with the existence of Sindhi Hindus in Pakistan? Most of them are Lohanas as clearly stated so in the article, which makes the "Indian" label undue. Codenamewolf (talk) 19:29, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That is not stated anywhere in the article and most Sindhi Hindus in Pakistan are not Lohanas (most of them are from other lower caste groups [reading from Schaflechner in the biblio]), the vast majority having migrated to India pre and post-partition. The description as such would also still not fall under WP:UNDUE, anyhow I will edit the lead to accomodate the different regions (it appears from Schaflechner that a few Lohanas still remain in Pakistan). Gotitbro (talk) 19:46, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You can still come across many carrying the surnames listed here in urban areas of Sindh atleast, (I know one irl). Additionally, communities of Muslim convert groups (Dawoodi Bohras, Memons) also exist. Anyways, the current lead seems sufficient Codenamewolf (talk) 20:20, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sources treat the Bohras and Memons communities separately and Lohanas are only one of the theoritical origins of those groups (the communities themselves do not necessarily ascribe their origins as such). About Lohanas in urban Sindh, yes those are likely from the remaining populace that did not migrate (also even post-partition quite a few upper-caste Hindu groups did remain in rural (Thar Desert) Sindh but most of them also migrated to India following the 1965 war: see Hasan and Raza). Gotitbro (talk) 20:37, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In that case, adjusting the lead to look more like the Khatri article would make sense Codenamewolf (talk) 21:56, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bohras are not Lohanas..while Sunni Memons Shia Ismaili Khwaja and Miakhels are Muslim Lohanas.. Sagar Raithatha (talk) 06:33, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[:0-1] Lachaier, Pierre. "Cérémonies D'hommage à Sarasvatī Et Aides à L'éducation Chez Les Lohāṇā De Pune." Bulletin De L'École Française D'Extrême-Orient 94 (2007): 27-58. Accessed November 2, 2020. http://www.jstor.org/stable/43733204.

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