Talk:Long track speed skating

Overlap

Wiki-Houston, we have a problem: the Long track speed skating article has too big an overlap with the Speed skating one (or is it vice versa). There is no easy optimal editorial strategy here. It would be easy, perhaps, if the Speed skating article were three times as long and informative as its logically smaller subset article Long track speed skating – but it's not. We might go for either (a) a nice enough merger between the two, and then gently pushing the Long track speed skating article into wiki-oblivion; or (b) making the Speed skating article substanitally broader (more on short-track, more on marathon, more on elfstedentochting, more on history, etc.) with more clear pointers to its subset articles. So, what d'you think? Slavatrudu 15:43, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

B. =) Chickenflicker 23:08, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, B. Mainly because it's pretty obvious that "speed skating" has at least a duplicate meaning in English, even though long track perhaps has a slightly longer history and "first rights" to the term, and so the article on speed skating should cover all reasonably notable ways of competing with skates (including roller skates, probably). Sam Vimes | Address me 23:16, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Well: I then suggest the world waits a couple of days, to allow other opinions to emerge, and if nobody protests we for option "B", where I can make a first modest perestroika stab. Essentially this would involve moving some of the nice details from Speed skating to Long track speed skating, and cleaning some of the Speed skating article further. That article is a bit messy in its current version. At any rate editors of either of these two articles should be conscious about what happens with the other article. Slavatrudu 01:01, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

In the official terminology of the International Skating union, "speed skating" is a translation of German "Eisschnellauf" and Norwegian "hurtigløp". Traditionally this term is reserved for the disciplins where the skaters race for speed, against the clock; not racing for positions, against each others. And until recently, in Europe competitive skatiing was done exclusively on ice. On the other side, in the not so organized world of American skating, the term "speed skating" has always had a wider meaning. Perhaps the main article should start with explaining this...

Broken links

This article and the "Speed Skating" article seem to have a ton of broken links now that the separation is completed. The link to the new History section points to a non-existent section amoung other links.

24.137.203.158 18:39, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Environmental aspects

Searching for information on that subject, there turns out to be a lot ado about reducing energy use of the rinks, but it's very hard to find out, about how much energy it does take, to make and keep them frozen. Maybe this article could bring some change in that situation.--VKing (talk) 04:17, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Effect of Altitude

I'm fairly certain that it's not the reduced air resistance that allows for better times in high altitude, but rather the effect that the high altitude has on the ice surface. Calgary apparently averages near sea-level air pressure during the winter as well, yet it is still one of the fastest ovals in the world. While reduced wind resistance certainly would contribute to better times, I don't think it's the primary factor. Braedley (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:31, 11 January 2011 (UTC).