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I don't know if Rowling intentionally didn't flesh out his character (I haven't read more than one of the books), but it seems like there is information about his birth and heritage, he was a student at Hogwarts and then he killed the Potters and somehow died. AFTER his resurrection, we get a lot of information but how did he die the first time? Was he kicked out of Hogwarts? Why did he kill the Potters? I know that Wikipedia can't be overly detailed but if any information could be given of the time of his life as Tom Riddle, it would enhance this character profile. Thanks. 188.8.131.52 (talk) 22:17, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: not moved. Jenks24 (talk) 21:21, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
Support per WP:CONCISE. "Voldemort" by itself fully identifies the character; no additional title is needed to do that. bd2412T 17:45, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
I'll offer a timid, weak Support. I really don't care either way, but at this point it seems reasonable enough to support the nom and agree with BD2412's reasoning.Elizium23 (talk) 18:08, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
Oppose The character is known as Lord Voldemort. The world "Lord" is really part of his name since he is not an actual Lord. There is also the fact the name is arrived at by an anagram, which includes the word lord. I really do not see the point of a change at all. Mezigue (talk) 18:29, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
Oppose. Widely known as "Lord Voldemort". This is the character's name. Do not shorten proper names just to reduce title length where there is no problem with the title length. The proposal is not supported by WP:CONCISE becuase the current title is not inconcise, the proposal is to remove part of the name, thus dropping information. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 23:25, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
Oppose. Changing my !vote to this. Con arguments are stronger than pro arguments. Elizium23 (talk) 00:07, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
The spirit of WP:CONCISE is meant to avoid absurdly long or overly specific article titles. It has been adequately demonstrated here that "Lord" is part of his name in this case, and deserves recognition in the article title. It's four letters, for crying out loud, how pedantic are we going to be? Elizium23 (talk) 02:42, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
Admittedly, its five characters, counting the space, but its completely absurd to say that the title "Lord Voldemort" is inconcise and needs to be shortened to improve the quality of writing. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 03:28, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
"Unnecessary" is very weak. Many good things are unnecessary. Including "Lord" is a good idea because: (1) it is the name of the character; (2) it improves recognizability without wordiness, redundancy or other inconcise attributes; (3) it is how the character is most frequently explicitly introduced in secondary sources ([http://www.hp-lexicon.org/wizards/voldemort.html eg) with the shortened form only being used subsequently, when the short version is used initially it is in the assumption that the character is already known; (4) it was the choice of the original author of this article and has been stable ever since. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 02:21, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
Mildy Oppose. The original impetus comes entirely from in-universe; if we want to talk about in-universe, the name derives from an anagram, and that this is what the character calls himself. Off-universe, there is already a re-direct from Voldemort, and I don't really see the point of the change. Magidin (talk) 15:47, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
Weak oppose. There's no reason to move it for the sake of moving it. ONR(talk) 02:52, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
Support – The full "Lord Voldemort" is seldom mentioned, in the books, movies, and in the general media. When it isn't "Tom Riddle" or "You-know-who", it is almost always "Voldemort". This isn't an in-universe explanation, this is just plain old WP:COMMONNAME. I also agree with bd2412 that the current title is akin to titling the Palpatine article "Emperor Palpatine". —Will(B) 07:43, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
For Palpatine, the title is squarely a monarchical title. In-universe, he is a real emperor, and Wikipedia's dropping the title, as a matter of style, fits well with WP:HONORIFIC. In-universe, Voldemort is not a real Lord, the "Lord" is an affection, a chosen name, whether by himself or his followers. From a literary perspective, these affections, like Captain America and Santa Claus, are attractive for their alliteration and cadence. Voldemort is a strange made up name with allusions to death (mort), and the "Lord" is required for the impression of power. This is important in the introduction. Once the impression is made, shorter versions, and alternative versions are employed to avoid repetition. Counting repeated usages in the same place is not relevant, it is the introductory use that matters, and good writing avoids repetition. These are qualities of a fictional proper name, unlike a formal title. Lord Voldemort is more akin to Lord Zedd. Similarly, "Zedd" alone is far less impressive, but in repeated use in the same place it is used without the "Lord". --SmokeyJoe (talk) 14:12, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
Oppose It is clear that "Lord" is only secondarily a title or honorific, and primarily part of the character's proper name. As to wp:concise, I'd like to remind that conciseness (definition, definitions, synonyms) is emphatically not the same as "shortest possible two-dimensional character string vector"
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This article needs to be udpated to have Obama replace Bush. Obama has begun a new war with Iraq and has been bombing Syria. He has bombed more countries than Bush ever did. So either replace Bush with Obama or just add Obama to the list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 12:30, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
If you have sources saying that Obama has been compared to Voldemort in popular culture, please share them. Mezigue (talk) 13:56, 1 October 2014 (UTC)