Talk:Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim

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Anyone know why the angels logo is distorted looking? And/or how to fix it? Was there a change made to the template? -ÅfÇ++ 29 June 2005 07:11 (UTC)

Nationality of Players[edit]

Given the fact that baseball is becoming an increasingly more international sport (i.e., more non-U.S. leagues in existence, more non-U.S. players in the MLB), the roster formatting on Wikipedia should probably be updated to reflect that. If you look at the formatting for other international sports (such as soccer), the player nationalities are indicated using flag icons. I think this would be a beneficial update to each of the major league rosters in the MLB, it would not be too difficult to implement and it would not clutter the information on the page. However, before such change a change is implemented, I thought it would be healthy to achieve at least some form of consensus on the talk page for each team. yuristache (talk) 01:10, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

Nope. Not needed. Why they do it for football (soccer) makes no sense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chris1emt (talkcontribs) 12:01, 15 August 2011 (UTC)


POV editor now blocked[edit]

User:Marksanta123 has been blocked for abusively using IPs (and another username) to edit this page to support his POV. We can now revert his socks' edits on sight. :) - BilCat (talk) 03:37, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Excellent news. I tried putting this page up at WP:RFP but I guess there wasn't enough vandalism to warrant protection. – Muboshgu (talk) 04:09, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
I had asked an admin to look into the issue, and he filed a checkuser about it. From the user's talk page, he seems oblivious to what WP's purpose is. - BilCat (talk) 09:42, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

I reported the IP to WP:ARV. If we ever need to, we can reopen Marksanta's WP:SPI case. The archived case is at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Marksanta123. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:54, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Edit Consensus on Franchise years[edit]

I wanted to get users consensus about who thinks it would be a good idea to add the franchise years history from before the team joined the MLB. The only reason I have brought this up recently and have taken so personally, is that i continue to see this as an issue of many other people who know the history of the team and the PCL for what it was, and would like to acknowledge how the continuity of the name through business transactions has given the team the right to a connection in professional baseball before joining the MLB. At the very least I believe that putting distinguished years as such : Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim(2005-present) Anaheim Angels(1997-2004) California Angels(1965-1996) Los Angeles Angels(MLB)(1961-1965) Los Angeles Angels (PCL)(1903-1957) Los Angeles Angels(CL)[No relation besides name] (1892-1893)...would allow to help with confusion of statements made throughout the page that reference back to the team before joining the MLB so at least people can see the years played before MLB and realize that it played in a different league. The way the page is referenced to the Angels before the MLB makes it seem as if the team was playing in the MLB since 1892. I would suggest an unbiased poll, any people who have connections on wikipedia to Yankee fans or any of the rival teams mentioned on this page should not vote on this due to recent controversy, remember were trying to leave this vote up to people who know the history, so only voice your opinion if you know the history of the team or PCL. After all, why have any users voting or voicing an opinion who don't know of the material or issue at hand? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.51.143.137 (talk) 06:45, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

-I for one would like to include these years, to The Bushranger i think the issue you are not understanding here is that Yankee fans have taken this information out of the page in the past, so to have them vote on something that most likely should not matter to them with the probability of malicous voting would disrupt the integrity of the consensus. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.144.0.13 (talk) 03:41, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

  • The PCL franchise and MLB franchise are distinct, much as the Baltimore Orioles of today are not the same as the Orioles of the NL in the 1890's, or the Orioles of the AL in 1901 and 1902, or the minor league franchises that existed in the early 20th century. This matter is closed. As The Bushranger said, Wikipedia is not a democracy, and this is not up for a vote. – Muboshgu (talk) 03:47, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

In response to Muboshgu, the only reason this consensus is needed is because Wikipedia is a democracy, according to the edit request page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_requests if I want to make an edit request I must get the consensus vote. And you seem to still think that the request is to make the Angels MLB and PCL the same, nobody here ever said that, the only thing wanted was to put DISTINCT years so that the confusion is solved and recognition of the name continuity is respected, not anything to do with player history, titles, and such.

As long as you compare two completely different topics as the same then Wikipedia will continue to be wrong in this aspect. Angels PCL name was bought from owner to owner so it still is the same franchise in a different league, just as the Orioles of 1890's are now the Yankees because the Yankees owner at the time bought the team; Orioles of 1890 are not same as today because they became the Yankees before the new Orioles began. Yankees weren't using the name so no need to buy it = no continuity + the Yankees have rights to what the 1890 Orioles accomplished.

It's not that hard to grasp, minor league franchises of 20th century had affiliation with different clubs, your continued reference to the PCL teams had no affiliation besides trades, no call ups are on record, please look; Your taking the PCL's reference as "minor league" as something completely different than was in the past, simple research would show this.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.51.107.41 (talkcontribs) 08:33, 4 May 2012‎ (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a democracy, and consensus does not run by voting. The fact you fail to understand this and, in fact, believe it to be so based on Wikipedia's own pages, leads me to believe that the competency required to edit on Wikipedia cannot be assumed to be present. That, combined the fact that you are, once again, obviously evading your block, without retracting your legal threat to boot, has led me to block your IP and semi-protect the article (again). - The Bushranger One ping only 11:14, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

173.51.xxx.xxx[edit]

Please be aware of any IP address starting with "173.51". User:Marksanta123, who has been duly blocked for sockpuppetry, uses these IP addresses to push the idea that these Angels and the Los Angeles Angels of the Pacific Coast League are the same franchise. They aren't. Please add it to the SPI case if he returns. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:33, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Hello users Muboshgu, FisherQueen, and jpgorden, I am somewhat brand new to wikipedia and am mistakenly being taken for a previous user even though my ip address does not start with "173.51" I also wanted to bring up a point that I am a fan of the team page I am trying to edit like many others on here and have noticed after my edits were taken out that the wikipedia user TheBushRanger has made nothing but hindering edits to the Angel baseball page, taking down the re-edits of everyone that is trying to put the Angel name history in the introduction, or simply taking out areas of strictly the "Fan appreciation" section for dubious reasons that could be applied to many areas of the page. It only concerns me because his username is the name of a rival team, so it would be great if someone can look into this because Im sure I would not be the only fan upset with his edits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.177.152.111 (talk) 19:50, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Read up on your Australian history, mate. And I've been removing the info from the lead because it's WP:CONSENSUS that including it there is WP:UNDUE, it's what Marksanta123 and his socks do (and contributions of an indefinitly blocked user can be removed by anyone at any time), and - surprise - Marksanta123 also played the "fans of rival teams attacking the page" card. Quack, quack. - The Bushranger One ping only 20:00, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Name Change[edit]

Does anyone know if the Angels are changing back to the Los Angeles Angels for the 2014 season or are they remaining the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 153.2.246.30 (talk) 14:45, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

As of right now (March 27, 2014), the team is still officially named Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim, even though they are free to drop the of Anaheim at any time. I assume that the name will be officially changed in time for the 2015 season, but that is just speculation on my part. --CASportsFan (talk) 03:07, 28 March 2014 (UTC)