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[edit] Sources

I do find this article interesting but it does seem to be a little speculative especially as there are no sources. - try google news search and the links at the bottom. if you understand spanish try youtube and mexican news sources. there has been an amazing blackout on the part of u.s. news on drug war violence until lately. -anonymous

  • WorldNetDaily is a fringe right-wing newsletter of zero journalistic merit. Before the 2003 Iraq war began they reported an Iraqi invasion headed toward Israel via Jordan. Similarly, I don't remember reading a single report about a minuteman getting shot by a sniper, or any other fantastical announcements like Zetas carrying cross border raids in military vehicles full of armed-to-the-teeth narco-mercenaries. If no credible references from mainstream US and Mexican papers can be provided I suggest that this article be deleted or significantly reduced. March 28, 2005 - Doug

I have added a link to an FBI report to the U.S. House of Representatives. I've been doing research on this group for a screenplay I'm writing and the Zetas are very much a real group. I've been in Mexico several times and the group is well known there. June 19, 2006 - Jorge Escobar

Uh dude, Z-4 is in charge now, not Osiel Cardenas. I unfortunately can't cite this because it's hearsay from a guy who's uncle is in the zetas, in Laredo Texas. I personally can't wait to become a cop to bust these idiots.

The sources do not reinforce the point of the article, which is to inform the reader that the media claims about Zetas are exaggerated or false. This article sounds more like a Snopes article than anything, and its claims about the Zetas are not well-substantiated or refuted in this article.Dirtydan667 11:20, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

I lived in Texas for 17 years and ran with EMS in the Border Area. We were frequently briefed by the law enforcement community about the Zetas and Negros. There were many news reports, even on CNN, Foxnews, etc. --Degen Earthfast (talk) 13:26, 4 July 2009 (UTC)--Degen Earthfast (talk) 13:26, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

"Los Zetas" are quite real and dangerous. In the following days I´ll try to gather references. Most of them will be local mexican news pages as "El Excelsior", "El Dictamen", "El Universal" etc. Would that help this article?

Here is an example:

http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/notas/535255.html

Hope you don´t have much problems using a translator. Long story short: "Los Zetas" are killing all the illegal merchants in Veracruz and putting their own instead.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.23.91.242 (talk) 22:54, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] School of the Americas

If the School of The Americas is at Ft. Benning, Georgia, Why did they train in the sweltering North Carolina heat? - b/c they would be deployed in mexico?

There are still numerous reports on groups of individuals dressed in para-military gear, in "offical looking" Humvees with heavy machine guns mounted, firing at and attacking U.S. Border Patrol Agents, and Civilians alilke.

the zetas are real and very very dangerous im from a bordertown and leave it at that! ive actually been in a restaurant when they come in broad daylight ask for everyone to raise their arms put their cell where they can see it order their food eat then pay for everyone and leave!!! trust me i wish u could say oh well free food but its soo scary! now what i heard is that not only where they trained in the us but have been trained in different countries with great military power. they where hired but the mx gov to clear out narcos and as soon as that was almost accomplished they turned their back on the gov and decided to take over the business, hence the start of a great power war everyones talking about.

There's a policy on Wikipedia of No Original Research; Although your story is interesting and frightening, it's simply not grounds for an article about what seems to be a ghost organization. The source articles, while engaging, are vague at best and at worst utterly oblique. I'm not going to tag this for deletion, because i believe it's an important piece of the drug trafficking subject, but it really needs some work. I'm starting today. Gilgamesh Rex 17:55, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Categories

Los Zetas seem to have business dealings with U.S. gangs by providing/smuggling the drugs; I think it does not imply they are active gangs in every named state. If so, I'd like to see and include references to that effect. For the time being, I strongly suggest to exclude Category:Gangs in Texas, Category:Gangs in California, Category:Gangs in Florida, Category:Gangs in Chicago, Illinois, Category:Gangs in New York City, Category:Gangs in Detroit, Michigan, Category:Gangs in Louisiana. Cheers. BatteryIncluded (talk) 01:10, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Military History

I have assessed this as start class for Military History project but am not entirely convinced this falls into the scope of the project. This article is about a criminal organization that was started by ex-military personnel, not a military organization itself. Also their activities are criminal regardless of their tactical and technological sophistication. --dashiellx (talk) 12:55, 22 April 2009 (UTC)