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There is a discussion regarding the removal of the word "city" from the article titles of Philippine cities. This may imminently affect the article name for Lucena, Philippines. For city names which are not unique, disambiguation alternatives are also being presented. Formal request for page move may follow after a reasonable time of discussion. If you wish to participate, please post your comments here. --JinJian (talk) 05:02, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: MoveLucena City → Lucena, Philippines, Valenzuela City → Valenzuela, Philippines, Angeles City → Angeles, Philippines as compromise solution because (1) opposition to current names is strong per WP:COMMONNAME, (2) opposition to proposed names disambiguated with "(Philippine city)" is strong as unsupported type of disambiguation per any guideline or convention, (3) regardless of what may have been stated at another discussion, no opposition has been expressed here to these names since they were proposed by User:LtPowersover a month ago (8 November) which are consistent with how cities in most countries are disambiguated.
Even at the other discussion very little explanation for opposition to this convention is given, and only by one person. If anyone is really opposed to disambiguating with ", Philippines" then they should propose another move and see if there is consensus support for their view. I just don't see it expressed here it all, much less explained. Born2cycle (talk) 07:03, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
This makes sense as explained in WT:Tambayan Philippines/Task force LGU. I am under the impression that Filipinos call Angeles City simply Angeles. Is this the city's proper name? Is the word "City" not formally part of the name? Is this the case with other cities in Philippines? / edg☺☭ 20:57, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Support for the numerous reasons I have stated over the years. See the linked discussion page in the proposal for details. --seav (talk) 00:48, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Oppose moving Angeles City. I have no opinion on most of these moves, but Angeles City is commonly known exactly that way in English, and it's better known in English than most Philippine cities are due to the bar trade. — Gavia immer (talk) 00:16, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
While Angeles City like any other Philippine cities may not be totally uncommon, I doubt that it is more prominent than Angeles especially by the locals in their everyday language. --JinJian (talk) 03:21, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
Their everyday language is unlikely to be English, and we go by the common name in English. For most of the nominated pages, there isn't going to be any common English usage, but for Angeles City there is. — Gavia immer (talk) 03:32, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
Well, that's fine - I disagree with you, and I've said so; that's all. — Gavia immer (talk) 04:17, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
Support for all cases as proposed, especially Angeles. Adding City appears to be a foreign convention. Please leave redirects from the current X+City names (as is done normally and by default in moves). / edg☺☭ 15:46, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
I am neutral on whether the current article title should remain. I oppose the proposed disambiguation method. PowersT 14:59, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.