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Lunar eclipse and Moon phases[edit]

The lunar eclipse is probably observable in the lunar daylight hours from the MOON. I wonder if any of the subsequent lunar Apollo missions after Armstrong's mission observed the earth blotting out the Sun? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.228.176.170 (talk) 00:09, 7 November 2012 (UTC)


We all witness different lunar phases almost every day. According to this article, when the moon passes behind the earth's shadow, its a lunar eclipse. So does that mean that every time the moon is not full, its a lunar eclipse? I think its a good idea to mention about this in this article as well as the lunar phase article. Dont you think? Face-smile.svg Regards. Rehman(+) 03:23, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

The phases aren't caused by Earth's shadow, but rather the Moon's own shadow. Similarly to how if there's one lamp around and you're facing it, your back isn't illuminated because you're in the way. Sideways713 (talk) 14:53, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Introduction[edit]

Not well written.

"Hence, there is always a full moon the day of a lunar eclipse." But for a given lunar eclipse, it will in some places be noon at the centre of the eclipse; a lunar eclipse does not possess a night. Better to say something like "Lunar eclipses can only occur when the Moon is full.".

"The next total lunar eclipse will occur on December 21, 2010 at 8:17 UTC." - no, it will occur over an interval centred on that time. The whole event lasts for about 5.5 hours, and totality lasts for over an hour.

82.163.24.100 (talk) 11:49, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

I also think it is important to add citations in the introduction. Even for something as simple as the time frame of a lunar eclipse should show some scientific evidence to back up that claim Vmdavid (talk) 00:44, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Longevity of eclipses[edit]

The article states: "A lunar eclipse lasts for a few hours, whereas a total solar eclipse lasts for only a few minutes at any given place." That should be re-written, shouldn't it? "A few" seems too long. Fomalhaut76 (talk) 11:18, 27 December 2010 (UTC)





The one is december has occured n ended hopefully, now there been one which stiked 16/6/2011, and laed for few hours — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.109.37.61 (talk) 21:35, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 12.13.70.254, 15 June 2011[edit]

When you google "Lunar Eclipse" and look at the search results on this, the metadata description provided is weird. Someone's been messing around?

12.13.70.254 (talk) 18:46, 15 June 2011 (UTC)


i think its hilarious. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.24.205.236 (talk) 19:06, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Yup, funny.TheDarkOneLives (talk) 19:09, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Jorgelrm, 16 June 2011[edit]

I think that link to the June 15th eclipse is wrong. It needs to be corrected.

Jorgelrm (talk) 00:24, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

There was vandalism of the link in the template at Lunar_eclipse#2009.E2.80.932013, which is fixed now. Tom Ruen (talk) 00:29, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 86.173.169.157, 16 June 2011[edit]

This resulting light we perceive as red. This is the same effect that causes sunsets and sunrises to turn the sky a reddish color; an alternative way of considering the problem is to realize that, as viewed from the Moon, the Sun would appear to be setting (or rising) behind the Earth.

Please change considering the problem to considering the phenomenon because it is something to be explained, not something to be solved.

Thanks for considering. Roger Smith, roger_smith@iee.org

86.173.169.157 (talk) 09:36, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. "Please change X" is not acceptable and will be rejected; the request must be of the form "please change X to Y". GaneshBhakt (talk) 10:33, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
Your assertion is wrong. It makes things needlessly confusing. The light of the eclipsed moon on it's way to the earth, (from the moon) is not affected by the effect you refer to. The scattering occurred when the light was on it's way from the sun to the moon. The way you propose to describe this is confusing. It's the same effect on the moon (from the earth's atmosphere), not the earth. --TimL (talk) 00:40, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

GIF animation of Lunar eclipse on 2011 June 15[edit]

If needed I have prepared a GIF animation of the Lunar eclipse on 2011 June 15. Lunar eclipse of 2011 June 15 animation (small).gif. I am not going to watch this page, so contact me from my talk page. OCK (t·c) 18:20, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Main image[edit]

I have changed the main image to File:Lunar eclipse June 2011 Total.jpg from File:Lunar Eclipse by Jiyang Chen.jpg which is less superior image in terms of quality and resolution. Please discuss before making further changes --Muhammad(talk) 20:39, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

The image was downsized to look properly on the page and to prevent improper usage of the original high resolution image. Thanks. --Jiyangc —Preceding undated comment added 06:24, 19 June 2011 (UTC).

See discussion below. Both images are fine. Lunar eclipse June 2011 Total.jpg is nicely cropped so I made it the summary image. I moved Lunar Eclipse by Jiyang Chen.jpg to a new picture gallery, it has too much black space around it for the summary image, but it is still good. And we need more. The usefulness of multiple eclipse images is to show the variation of the appearance of lunar eclipses, though in this case the two images (to my eyes) show how similar lunar eclipses can be (perhaps because they were only 6 months apart and the atmosphere had not changed much?) I don't mean to offend anyone but this article as it was was a mess. The images were all bunched together. I would appreciate that if either of you disagree with what I have done that you discuss it here first. Thanks. --TimL (talk) 01:02, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Fixing a mess[edit]

All the images were stuck together at the top of the article and not in an appropriate section. Also some of the images merely added artistic value and I moved them to a new gallery section. The 'hook' image I made to be more consistent with the solar eclipse article which is a smallish representative thumbnail that fits alongside the hook (summary). There was an additional nice image of a lunar eclipse, I moved that to the newly created gallery. Also there was an excessively long list of 'recent and upcoming eclipses' many of which were not recent at all but decades ago. I removed those. I think what is left is a much cleaner article with the images more appropriately placed. If you disagree with what I've done, I'd appreciate it if you discuss it here before making changes. Thanks. --TimL (talk) 00:34, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Completely removed the charts of recent and upcoming eclipses. These can be found by clicking on the links already given under "recent and upcoming eclipses", so there is no reason to have had them here. --TimL (talk) 12:02, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

The June 15, 2011 eclipse and Wiki vandalism[edit]

On June 15, 2011, a lunar eclipse led to a rash of juvenile vandalism on this article. Among the edits was one by some wag, an anonymous IP, that said "A lunar eclipse is when the moon turns black and explodes, releasing a poisonous gas, killing all humanity". That edit was repeated a couple of times before Ultraexactzz tried to put the kibosh on the vandalism by semiprotection. It was semiprotected for perhaps two days, and then the vandals struck again. And again. And again. (As for the edit I mentioned, someone did it again as late as August 1, 2011, and at least one person posted a Google screenshot showing the vandalism of June 15. Although the view count of that show was not very high, it may have nonetheless contributed to the Lunar Eclipse vandalism plague of 2011. (The comments by "Rickyrab" are not coincidential. I posted them there, and, yes, I admit to finding some of the vandalism to be humorous, which is why I liked Bad Jokes and Other Deleted Nonsense way back when.)

Anyway, I wonder if anything should be done about people who post Wikipedia stuff on Youtube or if we should leave the matter alone. I wonder if there is still a big enough risk of vandalism on "Lunar eclipse" to warrant continuing to semiprotect "Lunar eclipse". — Rickyrab. Yada yada yada 19:32, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm confused, are you making an argument that the article should be semi-protected (it is) or that it shouldn't? Is your question rhetorical? Thanks in advance. --TimL (talk) 22:22, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

^ the above is proof that autistic wikipedia editors have absolutely no sense of humor whatsoever — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.83.108.3 (talk) 08:13, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Edit request 10 December 2011[edit]

Please add to "See Also" / Lunar eclipses in history http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_2004_lunar_eclipse http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_World_Series#Game_4 The first lunar eclipse to take place during a World Series game. It also marked the final game of this Series and the end of the Curse of the Bambino. (my apologies if this edit request was not formatted correctly in any way)

X mark.svg Not done, the fact that an eclipse happened to take place at the same time as a baseball game does not appear to be notable, I'm sure you could find a thousand other such things--Jac16888 Talk 13:49, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
It was a significant game in baseball lore. Yes, it was purely coincidental, but so was the eclipse that occured during the Fall of Constantinople.
Wow that was harsh. Unceremoniously shot down by the wikigods. Not even worthy of good faith discussion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.76.15.86 (talk) 14:04, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
nothing to do with the "wikigods", but your own ignorance. A lunar eclipse is witnessed by an entire hemisphere of the earth, there are surely lots of things going on in an entire hemisphere during the length of a lunar eclipse. How is that for harsh? --TimL (talk) 22:52, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
Wow. And now name calling. From the perspective of relevance to an entire hemisphere, there are tens or hundreds of thousand of Wikipedia articles irrelevant to entire hemispheres. e.g. individual articles for every episode of Family Guy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.76.15.86 (talk) 05:21, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Edit request 25 May 2012[edit]

Can anyone add link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_2012_lunar_eclipse)to Lunar Eclipse on June 4, 2012 in the section of Recent and forthcoming lunar eclipse events? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yukyankee (talkcontribs) 05:17, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

X mark.svg Not done See below section. --TimL (talk) 22:04, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Removed "Recent and forthcoming eclipses" section[edit]

Too much maintenance required and not appropriate for article. Template in article has relevant links to past and future eclipses.  — TimL • talk 22:00, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Eclipse dates don't change, so there shouldn't be any need for a lot of maintenance. What we need is a table with the dates of the near past and near future eclipses, and the data is all here. Also, I think it is very appropriate for this article. The date of past and future lunar eclipses is one of the first things I'd expect to see in an article about lunar eclipses, and in fact it was the thing I was looking for when I visited the article today. --LFS (talk) 00:20, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
We have a table of past and future eclipses which I have put in the lead. I removed your reference to a specific eclipse. As far as finding the date of the next eclipse that can easily be found by using a search engine, e.g. [1].  — TimL • talk 15:52, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

The section has been restored based on how it is in the article solar eclipse, which is accessible requires little maintenance.  — TimL • talk 17:30, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

'Moves into the shadow of the Earth' vs. 'Passes behind the Earth'[edit]

'A lunar eclipse occurs when the moon passes behind the Earth so that the Earth blocks the Sun's rays ...

'A lunar eclipse occurs when the moon moves into the Earth's shadow, so that the Earth blocks the Sun's rays ... — Preceding unsigned comment added by John Champagne (talkcontribs) 04:41, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Accuracy of Lunar eclipse optics.jpg?[edit]

If the explanation for the red colour of the moon during a lunar eclipse truly is Rayleigh scattering of shorter wavelength light by the Earth's atmosphere (as indicated in the article text), then surely this image is misleading? It seems to indicate that the atmosphere is acting as an inverted prism which is causing dispersion of the white sunlight by refraction. What do others think? Bobo12345 (talk) 20:24, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Lunar eclipse optics.jpg
I'd generally agree it is misleading eye-candy. Tom Ruen (talk) 20:56, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
I second that. It's a really bad diagram. It's going. TimL • talk 05:15, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
Actually according to the article at Rayleigh scattering this depiction is correct. The amount of scattering is proportional to the inverse of the wavelength and does create an "inverted prism" effect.  — TimL • talk 09:09, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
Oh dear, upon further reflection I realize why this is a terribly inaccurate depiction of Rayleigh scattering as it would be seen from the moon. The earth scatters blue light, but the image suggests, from the point of view of the moon, that as the sun approaches the earth you would see the blue of the earth's sky which is wholly incorrect.  — TimL • talk 09:22, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 January 2014[edit]

Animation video on Eclise by SarvaShikshan

Ganeshwatve (talk) 05:43, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. Where should this go? --Anon126 (talk - contribs) 05:51, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Refraction doesn't make the moon red[edit]

The article says in two places that refraction through the Earth's atmosphere causes the red illumination of the moon. Why wouldn't that make it blue instead? Blue light refracts more than red, after all. Sunlight does indeed refract slightly as it passes through the atmosphere, raising the Sun's apparent position slightly at sunset and sunrise. The spread of color is pretty small, though; otherwise the setting sun would smear out into rainbow colors with blue setting last.

I'm changing the article to say that the red is scattered light. I realize it's a bit nit-picky; both scattering and refraction describe situations in which light changes direction. But they're really different things. Spiel496 (talk) 16:35, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Rereading what was there, I realize the article wasn't claiming that refraction caused the coloring. Still, the final change in direction that gets the reddened light into the shadow is scattering off a cloud droplet or other particle, not refraction. Spiel496 (talk) 16:46, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
Incorrect. From [2] "The troposphere and stratosphere act together as a ring-shaped lens that refracts heavily reddened sunlight into Earth's umbral shadow". I have added this citation to the article.  — TimL • talk 17:08, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
Also see atmospheric refraction. I have changed the article to link there instead of the more general article on refraction.  — TimL • talk 17:27, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
TimL is right, of course. I don't know what I was thinking. I didn't realize how small an angle the Earth subtends as seen from the Moon. Spiel496 (talk) 21:01, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Proposed Article Expansion: Cornell University Crowds, Communities and Technology[edit]

As part of a class assignment users Victoria (talk), Andrew (talk), Kieran (talk), and Jordan (talk) will be working on expanding this article. Below are some of the suggestions we hope to improve on in the article.

Citations

Many of the citations in Lunar Eclipse in Mythology, Blood Moon, and Occurrence lack sufficient citations. We hope we can bring some scientific data to support some of the claims made in these sections.

Lunar Eclipse in Mythology

This is the section we hope to expand the most on. This talkpage briefly describes some of the myths related to the Lunar Eclipse however we would like to expand on some of these myths to incorporate other cultures as well. For example, in many Asian cultures such as Chinese and Japanese, the Lunar Eclipses are a bad omen. [1]

Lunar versus Solar Eclipse

There is often times a discrepancy where people confuse a Lunar Eclipse with a Solar Eclipse, so in the article we would like to briefly explain the difference between the two so that they can be distinctly understood. [2]

Cultural Lunar Eclipses

In "interesting Facts About Lunar Eclipses", Chinese communities would ring bells to remove wild animals that bit the moon[3]Vmdavid (talk) 00:50, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

According to the University of Maryland Observatory, the Greek were ahead of their time when they said the earth was round and used the shadow from the Lunar Eclipse as evidence[4] Vmdavid (talk) 01:06, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Some Hindus believe in the importance of bathing in the Ganges River following an eclipse because it will help you achieve salvation[5] Vmdavid (talk) 01:30, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Many South East Asian cultures believe that it is bad for a pregnant woman to go outside during a lunar eclipse because it may be bad for the baby. [6] Vmdavid (talk) 01:30, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

March 1504 Lunar Eclipse

Christopher Columbus was able to predict the lunar eclipse in order to wow the Native Americans. He was able to use tables and local clocks in order to predict when the lunar eclipse would happen, and was able to convince the inhabitants that he had the power to make the moon disappear and then reappear. [7]

Multimedia

We were also planning on adding some more pictures or videos of the Lunar Eclipse to this article. For example, many websites provide detailed diagrams of the lunar eclipse [8]

Ajbose (talk) 01:24, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Hey folks. Great outline of your proposal and initial list of sources. For tomorrow's class, make sure you have expanded this list to include the full bibliography you will be using to improve this article. For adding images, make sure you are following the copyright guidelines - that the images you are inserting are in the public domain, or properly licensed. LeshedInstructor (talk) 01:51, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
Victoria (talk), Andrew (talk), Kieran (talk), and Jordan (talk) - It seems like you all have a great outline for your edits, but I don't see any have been made. I know you were looking to get some information from other Wikipedians, but have you been able to receive any feedback? If not from the editors who have been active on this page, then from the Teahouse? Or from editors on similar articles, like Solar eclipse, moon, NASA? Let me know if you need assistance! -Easowers (talk) 19:37, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Initial Sources

Britt, Robert R. "Nine Cool Facts about the Lunar Eclipse." http://www.nbcnews.com/id/6337791/ns/technology_and_science-space/t/nine-cool-facts-about-lunar-eclipse/#.VBoq7i5dXbw. NBC News, 18 June 2010. Web. 18 Sept. 2014. Japanese people cover their wells during lunar eclipses, people native to Arctic regions turn over their utensils during eclipses, and others yell at the moon.

"National Weather Service Weather Forecast Office." Solar and Lunar Eclipses. National Weather Service Weather Forecast Office, 18 May 2012. Web. 18 Sept. 2014. <http://www.crh.noaa.gov/fsd/?n=suneclipse>. This article discusses the differences between total, penumbral, and partial lunar eclipses. Total eclipses are when no part of the moon is illuminated, and penumbral eclipses are when the earth’s outer region is blocking the sun, but not the main region, which makes the eclipse harder to see, and partial lunar eclipses are when the earth goes in front of the moon more than penumbral lunar eclipses, but not as much as total lunar eclipses.

"Different Stages in Lunar Eclipse." Lunar Eclipses. Hong Kong Observatory, 27 Dec. 2012. Web. 18 Sept. 2014. <http://www.hko.gov.hk/gts/event/event-lunar-eclps12_e.htm>. A good graph and explanations of the penumbral, partial, and total lunar eclipses. We will probably add the graph, and support the graph with what is written describing the lunar eclipses in detail.

--Jordan (talk) 04:42, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Britt, Robert (18 August 2010). "Nine Cool Facts About the Lunar Eclipse: phenomenon changed history in earlier times.". Space.com. NBC Newa. Retrieved 18 September 2014. 
  2. ^ "Solar and Lunar Eclipse Page". http://www.crh.noaa.gov. National Weather Service National Weather Forecast Office. Retrieved 18 September 2014. 
  3. ^ Quilas, Ma Evelyn. "Interesting Facts And Myths About Lunar Eclipses". http://au.ibtimes.com. LA Times. Retrieved 2 October 2014. 
  4. ^ Pollack, Rebecca. "Ancient Myths Revised with Lunar Eclipse". https://www.astro.umd.edu. University of Maryland. Retrieved 2 October 2014. 
  5. ^ Ani. "Hindus take a dip in the Ganges during Lunar Eclipse". https://in.news.yahoo.com. Yahoo News. Retrieved 2 October 2014. 
  6. ^ "Asia, rain and pollution obscure the eclipse of the century". http://www.asianews.it/. Asia News. Retrieved 2 October 2014. 
  7. ^ Peterson, Ivars. "The Eclipse That Saved Columbus". https://www.sciencenews.org. ScienceNews. Retrieved 2 October 2014. 
  8. ^ "Different Stages in Lunar Eclipse". http://www.hko.gov.hk. Retrieved 18 September 2014. 
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That sounds like a promising list. I've not looked at the article recently, and see at least this graphic was removed at some point [3], by User:Timl, in June 2011, with comment I don't understand "removed image that is already is the "see also" articles (redundant))" . Tom Ruen (talk) 02:32, 30 September 2014 (UTC)


We are going to be adding a section that distinctively explains the difference and clarifies the confusion between a solar and lunar eclipse. Using information from both the solar eclipse page and outside sources, I will be given an expanded explanation of the true difference. Ajbose (talk) 00:19, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Edit: March 1504 lunar eclipse[edit]

I added the section 'March 1504 Lunar Eclipse'. The information I added refers to Christopher Columbus and his prediction of a lunar eclipse in order to show to a group of inhabitants that he could make the moon disappear. Jordan (talk) 00:50, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Edit Lunar versus Solar Eclipse Section[edit]

I edited the Appearance section to show a difference between the appearance of a Lunar and Solar Eclipse. We used sources from www.cm.noaa.gov as our reference for information on the topic. Ajbose (talk) 01:00, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

I suggest making some changes in this section. In its current states, it has four subsections:
  1. Lunar eclipse appearance - describes the appearance of a lunar eclipse
  2. Solar eclipse appearance - describes what a solar eclipse is and what it appears like - I suggest substantially condensing this section because there is a section about solar eclipse. You could direct to there and simply explain the differences between the two, in effect and in appearance
  3. Selenelion - it is unclear why this subsection appears under the section "lunar versus solar eclipse.
  4. Danjon scale - again, unclear why this subsection is in the section on lunar vs solar eclipse.
Also, please make sure to use sentence case in headings: first letter of first word should be upper case, and the rest in lower case letters. Formally: "Capitalize the first letter of the first word, but leave the rest lower case (except for proper names and other items that would ordinarily be capitalized in running text). Thus Section headings, not Section Headings; Previous club, not Previous Club." LeshedInstructor (talk) 23:20, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Creation of Lunar Eclipse in Culture Section[edit]

At first we were looking into adding on this section to the mythology section but it made more sense to make this its own subsection. There are mythological claims about lunar eclipses but I think it is more important to highlight the cultural differences in how each culture interprets this phenomenon. I am currently looking into adding on more to this section and possibly creating different subsections and divide it by regionVmdavid (talk) 17:46, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

After taking into consideration some of the peer feedback we received, I went ahead and fixed some of the grammatical errors and sentence structure for this sectionVmdavid (talk) 01:23, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Feedback for Victoria (talk), Andrew (talk), Kieran[edit]

Contents

Organization and Style Refer to Solar eclipse for layout and organization. It is marked as an exceptionally good Wikipedia article, and modeling this article after it might be useful to readers who are interested in reading about both eclipses. Specifically, consider adding a "Predictions" header. Also, reorganizing the headers to match the Solar eclipse header order can be more straightforward to readers. Another thing is that “lunar eclipse in culture” is very vague for a section header. Consider combining it under an overarching header—maybe “Interpretations of Lunar Eclipse”—with “Lunar eclipse in mythology”. Also, consider elaborating more on the interpretations in different cultures beyond brief overviews. In addition, consider moving “Blood moon” under another header titled “Other observations”, similar to solar eclipse. Tkw32 (talk) 18:27, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Sources

  1. I Notice that the first paragraph does not have any citations. Perhaps you would want to add them
  2. One source I noticed that has a questionable reliability is source 6: www.skyandtelescope.com. The source looks like a blog so I don’t know if it is a reliable source.
  3. All of your references appear to be formatted correctly! 18:28, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Suggested changes to Lunar Eclipse Article

Overall:

1- Added some comas and fixed sentence structure
2- Maybe it would be good to consider cutting short sentences in the first paragraph of the Lunar Eclipse Appearance subtopic were it is hard to find the flow of the paragraph, which makes it hard to read.
3- The content is good but sentences are too long!

Specific changes:

1- In Types of Lunar eclipse, I would rearrange this sentence and add parenthesis for the last part of the sentence. It would be easier to understand if it was written the following way: However, as a result of the Sun's large angular size, solar illumination is only partially blocked in the outer portion of the Earth's shadow (named penumbra).
2-Rearrange sentence structure: choose a) There is often confusion between a solar and (a) lunar eclipse or b) There is often confusion between solar and lunar eclipses.
3-Under Lunar Versus Solar Eclipse section, and subtopic Kunar Ecklipse Appearance, I would cut this sentence in two by adding a period after “cone.” “The Moon does not completely disappear as it passes through the umbra because of the refraction of sunlight by the Earth’s atmosphere into the shadow cone; if the Earth had no atmosphere, the Moon would be completely dark during an eclipse. --Mfrosselot (talk) 19:40, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Additional feedback[edit]

Thank you very much for your contributions to the article. I have a few thoughts on how you could improve this a little more.

  1. Section titles: these should not be capitalized: "Lunar versus solar eclipse" not "Lunar Versus Solar Eclipse", "Lunar eclipse appearance" not "Lunar Eclipse Appearance", etc.
  2. In the Lunar_Versus_Solar_Eclipse section, you have two sentences saying, in essence, that they are often confused, but they are different. A statement like that is a bit of a teaser - it just tells the reader 'keep reading'. If you could add a sentence that captures the essence of the difference between the two, something that says 'here's what it is, now keep reading for details', you will have created something that's more satisfying to read.
  3. You need to be a bit more careful in your wording. In the Lunar_eclipse_in_Culture section (which should be 'culture' not 'Culture') you say that "In South East Asia..." when the source actually refers to India (which is South Asia not Southeast Asia). It's also better to be more specific - "some believe" is an example of so-called "weasel words" which you should try to avoid. (This is true for other sentences in that section as well). In addition, since you have two assertions about Hindu culture, you might want to unify them, rather than separate them with the statement about the Greeks.)
  4. In the March_1504_Lunar_Eclipse ("lunar" and "eclipse" shouldn't be capitalized here) you should add a link to the main article on the topic right at the top, in it's own line, before any of the text: {{seemain|March 1504 lunar eclipse}}. You probably also don't want to refer to this as a legend - Columbus' voyages are supported by contemporary sources (copies of his logs) so that makes them a bit more than legends.

Again, thank you for your contributions to the article. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 12:39, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

  • I deleted the term 'legend' from the March 1504 Lunar Eclipse section. It is more founded by historical sources than a typical legend might. Thank you for your helpful comments! Jordan (talk) 19:18, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
@Ian (Wiki Ed)::Thanks for your feedback! I made the capitalization changes you suggested, and took out the part about South East Asia entirely after I realized it was actually referencing a belief about solar eclipses. KieranKinnare (talk) 00:18, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Lunar Versus Solar Eclipse[edit]

Why do we need to be lectured as if we are ignorant? Keep to the topic please.SovalValtos (talk) 22:42, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

SovalValtos, I'm a teaching assistant for these students who are editing this page and others like Spam (food). While I appreciate your point that maybe the idea of inputting a section about Lunar v. Solar eclipse could be construed as condescending, please keep in mind these are students who are only trying to help. They're still learning how to edit Wikipedia and would love positive constructive criticism! I'm happy you've been so vocal on so many of our pages, as the students can really learn from you, just make sure you remember they're still new at this. Thanks so much! Easowers (talk) 21:57, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
My comment about lecturing related to the content of the page. I thought the page was lecturing us with off topic material. Knowing which pages you consider "our pages" would not change editing as ownership is not a good idea.SovalValtos (talk) 07:52, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
@SovalValtos:: Thanks for your comment. Please be more specific about where there is off-topic lecturing material and the students will fix that. The use of "our" is a figure of speech to represent the set of articles the students have chosen to work as part of their Wikipedia assignment in the class - students are aware that they don't "own" the articles but they are collaborating with others (like you!) to improve them. For more information about which articles are in this process, see the course talk page. If you have questions about editing articles as part of a course assignment, please contact Jami Mathewson from the Wiki Education Foundation. Thank you. LeshedInstructor (talk) 13:29, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
SovalValtos, these are new editors; if you think the tone is inappropriate please try to improve it or, failing that, you could you provide more specific criticisms, actual concrete examples of what you think should be changes? Please remember that WP:BITE applies here. Thanks. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:19, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
@SovalValtos:: I am not completely sure what you mean by this statement. Please notice the course assignment template at the top of the page, and if you have concrete suggestions to the student editors, please make them. I agree that a thorough description of the appearance of solar eclipse does not need to appear in this article. However, such a suggestion can be made clearly and in a friendly manner. Please assume good faith and don't bite the newbies. Thank you! LeshedInstructor (talk) 23:08, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Visibility[edit]

Might it be worth mention the moon is still visible during an eclipse? I have no refs but there is an image on the page.SovalValtos (talk) 20:01, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Edit: Structural change[edit]

I added the 'Selenelion' section as a subsection of 'Types of lunar eclipse' and changed the subsection 'Danjon scale' to a section by itself. Jordan (talk) 00:43, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Edit: Added subsections to the section 'Lunar eclipse in mythology'[edit]

I added the subsections 'Incans' and 'Mesopotamians' to the section 'Lunar eclipse in mythology' Jordan (talk) 00:43, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Minor edit requests[edit]

Under the heading Solar eclipse appearance, the apostrophe in "when the Moon casts it's shadow on Earth" should be removed. Also, the article seems to lack Template:pp at the top. To remove confusion, it should be added (unless the semi-protection can be lifted). 85.226.205.208 (talk) 07:38, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Stickee (talk) 02:22, 10 October 2014 (UTC)