Talk:Lupe Fiasco's The Cool

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Next Single[edit]

On Nikki Jean's video blog today she confirmed that they are shooting a video for Hip Hop Saved my Life. I've added this to Lupe's box.

Producer Credits[edit]

what's the source of the producer credits? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Suffa33 (talkcontribs) 03:14, 9 April 2007 (UTC).

  • I agree, I want to see a source for the producing credits of both Eminem and Dr. Dre mainly because they have both never worked with Lupe nor have I ever heard of collaborations between the parties. If nobody can find the sources I suggest their names be removed for the time being. Volumesoxxs

Two rumoured songs?[edit]

Two songs jus bin realised in the last few mins, "Bottom Up" (http://www.defsounds.com/singles/view/1518-lupe-fiasco-bottom-up.html) and "Cold Blooded" (http://www.defsounds.com/singles/view/1517-lupe-fiasco-cold-blooded.html) lookin like these two are gona b on this new album can't confirm that yet though.

Rumored Tracks[edit]

"Coulda Been" needs to be removed and never put again into the possible tracklisting of this album. That song was one of his first songs released, back in 2004 as part of the MTV Advanced Warning Program. I am almost 100% positive that it will not be featured on "The Cool". Inavata3 17:31, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

J Dilla?[edit]

How can he produce when he's dead? (RIP)

Track: Intruder Alert.[edit]

Was wondering what might be happening to this track? Possible Bonus Track? lupe fiasco is going to make a banus trak called the uncool If the track list is final then shouldn't this statement be removed from the article?

"He also explained in an interview that Intruder Alert will be about a girl raped and how she lives with it."

--121.73.11.118 06:57, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:The Cool.jpg[edit]

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BetacommandBot (talk) 20:11, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Sources[edit]

yea, there are like three sources on the whole page. anyone got a source for producing credits? or the concept section..it seems to be just a copy and paste job. add sources....Bren202 (talk) 10:33, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Concept[edit]

i deleted the concept section because it was highly opinionated and unsourced. i'm pretty sure it was just a copy and paste from a review or something........Bren202 (talk) 10:38, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Album Sampler[edit]

a 9 minute album sampler was released today. no need to add to page, just posting it in case anyone was unsure about the tracklist or just want to hear it....--Bren202 03:46, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Lupe Fiasco's The Cool.jpg[edit]

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Image:Lupe Fiasco's The Cool.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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BetacommandBot (talk) 21:37, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

FixedAlessandro TC 00:05, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Leak[edit]

there will be a webrip leak of it up sometime today —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.162.208.206 (talk) 17:41, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Composers[edit]

if anyone feels like adding composers/songwriters to the page heres the info--Bren202 (talk) 04:12, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

pro reviews[edit]

are blogspot reviews really all that professional? my guess is no.

Why does DJBooth.net get removed from the "professional reviews" section? They are one of the TOP 10 most visited Hip-Hop oriented sites on the net. Their reviews get published in the Google News feed too. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BZisook (talkcontribs) 16:11, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

They are not professional per WP:ALBUMS. —Bruce Wayne of the Rap Game (talk) 22:34, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Page name[edit]

I'm pretty sure the title is just "The Cool". Also, I'm not sure why Food & Liquor was moved to Lupe Fiasco's Food & Liquor. Maybe to be consistent with this title? Anyway, if there's no objections, I'll move this to the simpler title. Spellcast (talk) 09:40, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

if you look closely at the album cover (above "the cool") it says "Lupe Fiasco's The Cool". Now concerning Food & Liquor, I bought the album off iTunes and when it downloaded the album full name was "Lupe Fiasco's Food & Liquor", he also refers to it as so and, once again, on the album cover it is says "Lupe Fiasco's Food & Liquor" (kind of hard to see). I think Food & Liquor should be changed back and this page should stay--Rebel Without a Pause (talk) 10:03, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
For Food & Liquor, The "Lupe Fiasco's" bit is just an introduction. It's like with Give It to Me. It has "Timbaland presents" on the cover, but it doesn't make it part of the title. The infobox reviews of Food & Liquor just have it as "Food & Liquor". Now with The Cool, Billboard, All Music Guide, and VH1 just have it as "The Cool". It's hard to tell if the "Lupe Fiasco's" bit is part of the official title or just an introduction. But I think it's just an intro. Spellcast (talk) 10:27, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
Spellcast looks to be correct. If you look at Lupe's MySpace he refers to the title as just "The Cool". Also, every song from the album is available via his MySpace and they all have the album listed as "The Cool". As for this "Lupe Fiasco's" ordeal, this is just an intro or "call sign" as Spellcast said. Amazon lists the title of the album as "Lupe Fiasco's Food & Liquor", so it's debatable but if you look to his MySpace (which he is very involved in, some artists aren't) he lists it as simply "The Cool" and I would assume just "Food & Liquor". --Ayoleftyz (talk) 22:22, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
I remember in earlier interviews he said something about adding the "Lupe Fiasco's" to the title. but i don't really careyou can change it if you want--Rebel Without a Pause (talk) 00:23, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
Okay, what about Eminem Presents the Re-Up then? Daniil Maslyuk (talk) 10:10, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
I'm pretty confident that "Lupe Fiasco's" ois a part of the title. In a recent interveiw with XXL they refer to it as so. They said "Wasalu Muhammed Jaco has dealt with his share of pain since his heavily bootlegged debut album Lupe Fiasco’s Food & Liquor made listeners simultaneously think and bob their heads back in 2006." and, "Given the hardships, it’s hardly surprising that his sophomore release, Lupe Fiasco’s The Cool, sees the MC embracing his darker side;".[1] Just thought it should be said.--Rebel Without a Pause (talk) 05:20, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
Just bought a copy and on the side it says "Lupe Fiasco Lupe Fiasco's The Cool Atlantic 2-368316" pretty much confirming what I've been saying this whole time.--Rebel Without a Pause (talk) 02:00, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Move it back to the other page then..did you get any sample info either? —Bruce Wayne of the Rap Game (talk) 03:24, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Moved. The only sample on the album is the one used on "Paris, Tokyo" so i moved the sample info to below the tracklist since not really needed in the wiki table--Rebel Without a Pause (talk) 03:28, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Is there any credits for additional vocals? Cause I'm sure.. "Streets on Fire" has some.. I don't have the CD yet so I wouldn't know. —Bruce Wayne of the Rap Game (talk) 03:31, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
additinal vocals are as follows

"The Coolest"

  • Graham Burris

"Superstar"

  • Soul Children of Chicago (bkg)

"Streets on Fire"

  • Soul Children of Chicago

--Rebel Without a Pause (talk) 03:46, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

I don't think it's enough for a place in the article.. or the samples. —Bruce Wayne of the Rap Game (talk) 03:56, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Why not? Other albums list them, and it's important infomartion reguarding the songs, so I think it should be included. Goten X (talk) 00:15, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

I guess, I'll list it like it's listed on Doctor's Advocate. —Bruce Wayne of the Rap Game (talk) 01:46, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Best Buy Version[edit]

it has a bonus dvd with 2 rhapsody performances a track by track breakdown interview and The Making of The Cool interview —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.110.104.152 (talk) 17:32, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Exec Producer[edit]

i bought the cd and it lists "FREE CHILLY" as exec....so do i list the exec producer as "FREE CHILLY" or simply as "Chilly". On Food & Liquor he was posted as Chill. Anyone?--Rebel Without a Pause (talk) 01:53, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

I say Chill, since that's what was on his first studio album. Goten X (talk) 00:10, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Singles[edit]

I'm pretty sure "Dumb it Down" isn't the second single. It was a street single released before "Superstar". I'm going to remove it from the single category unless someone has a source confirming it was a single.--Rebel Without a Pause (talk) 05:15, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Sales[edit]

143,000 sold in first week according to billboard http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003689227 58.173.129.7 (talk) 06:36, 29 December 2007 (UTC) E. Clarke

Go, Go, Gadget Flow: Violin is the same as The Police, Spirits in the Material World[edit]

Has anyone else noticed that the synth/violin line that runs under Go, Go, Gadget Flow (right from the beginning) is the same as Spirits in the Material World? I don't know if this is officially credited on the album, since it's not really a sample. It's clearly redone, with a more electronic sound, but the theme is the same. Edhubbard (talk) 10:57, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Samples[edit]

I've remove the samples section completely because there was sources backing up the claims. I Googled and tried to find reliable sources, but failed to find any. If anyone happens to find anything, please feel free to re-add the samples. DiverseMentality(Boo!) 17:33, 21 October 2008 (UTC)


Link Error[edit]

Sarah Green links to a page that is clearly not the same person who is featured on Lupe's album. Needs fixing. 122.57.73.108 (talk) 03:22, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done, good eye. Whoops, looks like you beat me to it. DiverseMentality(Boo!) 03:23, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Neutrality[edit]

Reading over the "reception" section, it's very clear that this article needs a clean up to be more neutral. Lines like: 'Gotta Eat' (where Lupe's inspiration for metaphors is a cheeseburger, yet it is no more corny than Main Source's classic 'Just a Friendly Game of Baseball'). should not be there —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.50.15.189 (talk) 01:00, 5 March 2011 (UTC)