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Not sure if this is worth of an edited but I just added as a bit of trivia how the Luther Burger was featured in the Boondocks episode The Itis. I figured it'd be worth it since the place claimed to be "Home of the Luther," they give the recipe, and people mug each other to get a Luther.

If anyone thinks it's not appropiate, feel free to delete.-- 12:10, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

rem,oved nonsense[edit]

The following was removed as it seems like missed vandalism. "It is sometimes known as the Fat Shit burger. Its used as a torture deise in some cultures. With the burger you can either get fries or a coffin." Mikereichold 19:15, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

"Its creator named the sandwich after R&B legend Luther Vandross, who reportedly enjoyed the sandwich; some rumors claim that Vandross himself invented his namesake burger.[1] Ironically, Vandross died of a heart attack at the age of 54." It's not that ironic, really, is it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 16:36, 10 July 2006

On merge suggestion[edit]

Any problems with this? Lenin & McCarthy 16:45, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Nope. Fire away. Tim April 10, 3:15

Unhealthful is not a word[edit]

So please do not use it as such. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 10:15, 3 August 2006 — pd_THOR | =/\= | 11:33, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Boy, you sure don't get to use a word like unhealthful too often - or so perfectly appropriately. (talk) 02:36, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

stroke/ heart attack[edit]

The "ironically" statement seems to indicate that the effects of obesity and poor eating cannot cause a stroke, as people may have suspected, had they mistakenly heard Luther Vandross died of a heart attack. This is not the case. The effects of poor eating habits lead to symptoms that can cause both heart attacks AND strokes, such as diabetes.

Perhaps it is ironic that someone would name a food item after someone whose eating habits may have killed him (though this may be a poor interpretation of the word irony); but it is NOT ironic that Luther Vandross died of a stroke, rather than a heart attack. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 20:22, 17 August 2006

"real name"[edit]

the burger's real name is The Luther. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 07:01, 22 September 2006

Wikipedia is incomplete without a photo of the Luther Burger[edit]

{{reqphoto}} Edward 23:53, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

I tried to add a photo.[edit]

Well, I did my best to add a photo to this article. But, somehow it was removed. Wikipedia must be too complicated, because I spend about 2 hours trying to get this photo uploaded, and now it's no longer in the article. I can't believe it's this hard to contribute! If someone with more patience is out there, please take it upon yourself to add the following photo of a luther burger. I received permission from the author to use it on wikipedia. Braden Kowitz 06:46, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Is that really a photo from Google's cafeteria?[edit]

I cruised the source website and could not locate a reference. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rockindahaus (talkcontribs) 20:57, 10 March 2007.

The source [1] tags this as "googlefood" which was my initial inclination, although I interpreted it slightly incorrectly. Zinka (talk · contribs), the pertinent photographer, made the appropriate corrections to the page. That sufficed for me. — pd_THOR | =/\= | 03:21, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
If it is or not is is a pretty shitty image of the offending burger. Here is a better picture showing the nastiness and the first one most people saw. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 02:40, 3 July 2008 (UTC)


I removed the additional names in the lede, as there were not further mention of them in the attributed sources. I also refactored the information presented based on the actual content of the sources provided. — pd_THOR | =/\= | 20:41, 11 March 2008 (UTC)


Just happened to run across this article. This article seems to be about an obscure product sold by a single vendor (with local imitators). Although it seems to have a local cult following I am not aware that the topic is widely known nor does it have any particular significance (a mention on one TV show not withstanding).

Shouldn't this be deleted?

--Mcorazao (talk) 15:39, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

I haven't gone too terribly into depth with this article as I could, I've mainly been trying to keep it clean and chaff-free. I'm familiar with half-a-dozen more reliable sources for the article and am sure I could some up with some more to bolster your notability concerns. Maybe I'll make it a weekend project? — pd_THOR | =/\= | 17:12, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
I found this article through - whether or not it used to be a local thing it appears to be mainstream enough for a nationally syndicated news source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 02:12, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

How many calories does this sunvabitch have?[edit]

On average, no need to be picky. Mister Deranged (talk) 04:40, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Just taking a stab, I'd say about 1,000,000. Or did you mean kilocalories?  X  S  G  05:12, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
The current amount cannot be right. Seems ridiculously low. Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie | Say Shalom! 7 Adar 5775 04:02, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

sources[edit] | =/\= | 04:44, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Used. — pd_THOR | =/\= | 04:08, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
For what it's worth, not a reliable source but here.[2] #1 new sandwich in America. - Wikidemon (talk) 12:42, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

origins edit[edit]

My edit to the first sentence of the Origins reads:

"According to legend, the burger was named for and was a favorite (and possible invention) of singer-songwriter and record producer Luther Vandross[4], who died of a heart attack at age 54."

This edit was removed by Fourthords, who claimed the heart attack reference "unnecessary or irrelevant." I think it's quite relevant that somebody believed to invent one of most recklessly unhealthful food items ever created succumbed to cardiovascular disease at a relatively young age. Erikmarcus (talk) 01:24, 21 February 2011 (UTC)Erikmarcus

None of our reliable sources have drawn any conclusions between Mr. Vandross' cause of death and his alleged invention of this sandwich. Including his date of death and its cause is only relevant if you're drawing that conclusion; since only you (as the contributor) are drawing said conclusion, it qualifies as original research, which is verboten on the English Wikipedia. — Fourthords | =/\= | 03:17, 21 February 2011 (UTC)


I see you've resorted to using capital C Calories to distinguish them from gram calories. I guess this must be something like the 30th or 40th page on WP to do so. What I'm suggesting is that this doesn't really add clarity if readers have never heard of this approach. The vast majority of pages which use the large calorie just call it a calorie (as did this one until last October) as per normal use in the real world. How about the reader who comes to this page, finds out that a Calorie is worth a thousand calories and then goes to one of the several hundred pages which don't adhere to this practice? I have suggested we ditch the idea altogether.

On a related issue, I propose to have {{convert}} adjusted such that the code Cal will give lower-case calories (still the large calorie though). My proposal includes an adjustment such that Calorie will continue to give upper-case Calories. I'm going to edit the article so that the capitalisation will remain in the case that my proposal is adopted. Note, however, if consensus at MOSNUM is to depreciate capitalisation, neither Cal nor Calorie will give Calorie. On the other hand, why not just go back to kilocalories, just add a footnote so people don't get confused. JIMp talk·cont 17:00, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

I originally used kilocalories, but they were specifically reverted by (talk · contribs) here. At that time I looked into the confused situation again and found the capital "C" calorie which performed the same convertible function as "kilocalorie", but without garnering the ignorant knee-jerk reactions of drive-by anonymous editors who don't bother to read the calorie article first.

Regarding the C/calorie discussion, I just want to make sure that the most accurate version of information is available in the article; if a capital "C" calorie is the technically correct way of referring to the amounts of energy people are expecting to read about, then I find that to be the best option. If the community decides that the lowercase "c" calorie is technically acceptable, then that should promulgate through to the {{convert}} template and it'll all sort itself out in the end anyways. — Fourthords | =/\= | 18:11, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

There seems to be an idea out there that Calorie is technically correct but to the best of my knowledge no relevant standards organisation backs this idea up. At least the kilocalorie is unambiguous. I wonder whether a footnote and/or hidden comments would keep the anonymous ignoramuses at bay. What if the page were semiprotected? JIMp talk·cont 18:38, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Luther variant being sold at the Canadian National Exhibition (CNE)[edit]

I just thought I'd post this here as a matter of reference. (talk) 12:21, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Awesome, thanks for the heads-up! UpdatedFourthords | =Λ= | 18:23, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Jet source[edit] (talk · contribs) added an alleged confirmation that Mr. Vandross invented the Luther Burger. He cites an unspecified Jet magazine from October 1986, however I can't find any corroborating confirmation anywhere. I'm going to revert the addition in the next few days barring any corroboration and/or evidence of the Jet article itself. — fourthords | =Λ= | 00:09, 17 May 2013 (UTC)