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Surprise![edit]

I'm surprised that no one else had put this article up yet!!!! Sr13 02:37, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

It had, it just got deleted. User_talk:SColombo#Lyric_Wiki_Article. 137.229.57.162 12:42, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
^ that was me. DevastatorIIC 12:43, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Wikimedia?[edit]

Why doesn't Wikimedia have a lyrics database? Would it be possible to start one?Sirmadness 12:13, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

The problem they have is it's hard to figure out all of the legal copyright issues, and WikiMedia, I'm guessing, just doesn't want to deal with it because of the difficulty of legal rules. --WillMak050389 19:38, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Wikisource hosts free content lyrics. Piet Delport (talk) 2009-10-16 07:10

Whaddaya do for money, honey?[edit]

Is Lyricwiki a for-profit or a nonprofit outfit? Thanks, Maikel (talk) 19:58, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

And do they plaster their pages with adverts and ring tones and other sorts of crap that slow it down for those with low bandwidth connections and/or slow computers? Or is it clean, and hence the go-to source? 78.147.62.12 (talk) 13:36, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Removed "Feature list"[edit]

I've removed the whole "feature list" section, as it was a listing of unsourced claims. Anyone should feel free to re-add this statements in the form os sourced prose. Please, understand that links to their official website is not considered reliable sources.

  • Over 666,000 content pages[1]
  • "Song of the Day" & "Album of the Week" featurettes
  • Originally a no-banner, no-popup policy, but since April 2007, the site has been forced to include banner ads due to financial problems[2]
  • Feed of top iTunes songs for quick access on Main Page
  • SOAP Web service [1]
  • Media player plugins and extensions for Winamp, Amarok, Windows Media Player, musikCube, foobar2000, etc. [2]
  • "LyricWiki Challenge" Facebook Application

Of course, an extensive "feature" listing is not necessarily encyclopedic.
--Damiens.rf 17:07, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Interesting. The article seems anemic (and is thus a stub now) without any of this information. Here's a crack at sourced-prose. I'd appreciate feedback/help before adding it:

[...] The site allows programmatic access to the contents of its database through a web API (source: [3]). This API has been leveraged to create plugins for many media players including Winamp, Amarok, Windows Media Player, musikCube, foobar2000, and more [4].

LyricWiki has also released a Facebook application called "LyricWiki Challenge" which is a social, competitive game based on identifying lyrics from popular songs in several genres [5]. [...]

It seems to me that the only other data from the bulleted list that should go in prose might be the "Song/Album of the Day/Week" part, but that's up to debate. It seems as though the number of pages - aka: size of database - would be information for the infobox if anything, but I doubt that's in the template.
I do disagree on one point: I think the official site could be a source on several encyclopedic things. Obviously things such as statistics they could counterfeit if they modified the MediaWiki software, but resources - such as the list of plugins - or features - such as the iTunes list - can easily be proven to exist just by linking directly to them.
208.40.188.83 (talk) 03:28, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your efforts with the above. So far as I am personally concerned, LyricWiki is the best lyric site on the web. And due to it's ever increasing popularity, I certainly believe that it's article page should remain on this site. Although I often find myself questioning the thought process of some of the senior editors on here, I can only but think that the reason this article has been flagged for possible deletion is because the afore mentioned information/feature list has been removed. As such it could now be considered that there is insufficient content on the page. Whilst many of these stub pages do appear to exist undisturbed on this site, I have nevertheless frequently seen this "flagged for deletion" template on stub pages. I could be wrong, but if you have the expertise to restore the information in the correct format then it might just prevent the page from being deleted.   Яєdxx Talk 02:30, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
In the spirit of WP:BOLD, I'm going to move the attempted more-prose-like content above onto the page (and try to expand upon it). If anyone is more eloquent, I'd love the help. It seems a shame (and inappropriate) for this article to languish as a stub.
-SColombo (talk) 03:47, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Link to site[edit]

In above mentioned deletion review concerns were raised about the link to the Lyricwiki site violating either the letter or the spirit of Wikipedia:Copyrights#Linking_to_copyrighted_works with the suggestion to at the least enclose it in "nowiki" tags. While the idea garnered some support, it isn't really the realm of DRV so it should be settled here--Tikiwont (talk) 19:14, 31 May 2008 (UTC).

Not to split hairs, but the policy advises "do not link to that copy of the work". The spirit of this, for example, is not editing the Indiana Jones article to add a link to an illegal download of the movie on BitTorrent. It is not a blanket ban on links to sites that somewhere on the site contain copyrighted work, perhaps against the yet-unstated wishes of the copyright holder, otherwise we couldn't link to YouTube or even Google. So in other words, I think we're fine leaving the link up. --Rividian (talk) 00:37, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Interwiki[edit]

Would it considered appropriate to put in the article that LyricWiki is in the InterWiki Map? It seems relevant to wiki'ers but not to encyclopedic browsers in general. -SColombo (talk) 00:20, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Given that all interwiki links are reverted as links to a copyright violation, I don't think so. I'm surprised that the interwiki function hasn't been disabled yet.—Kww(talk) 00:39, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
Not all of them would be copyright violations. For example, public domain lyrics. --Explodicle (T/C) 14:35, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
It's true that there is a vanishingly small percentage of non-infringing materials. Pirates occasionally steal things that were free anyway.—Kww(talk) 14:38, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

History, Operations, etc.[edit]

People have mentioned that the article could use more history or information about how it is run (possibly the server architecture, etc?), but how can that be sourced? Does a site just need to make a post on their blog about their history or architecture or would that be considered a bad source since it's primary. The confusing part is that the only way this information would ever be able to come out is somehow through the source itself. For instance, if someone interviewed people in charge of running a given site. -SColombo (talk) 00:20, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Blogs and other self-published sources are generally considered unacceptable unless your work related to LyricWiki has already been published by a reliable third party publication, and even then it has to be used carefully. If you got interviewed by a reliable third party source reputed for fact-checking and accuracy, then we could source that with no problems. --Explodicle (T/C) 14:50, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

No API anymore?[edit]

Got the following message, when trying to download lyrics with Quod Libet:

Unfortunately, due to licensing restrictions from some of the major music publishers we can no longer return lyrics through the LyricWiki API (where this application gets some or all of its lyrics).

The lyrics for this song can be found at the following URL: http://lyricwiki.org/Razorlight:Wire_To_Wire


(Please note: this is not the fault of the developer who created this application, but is a restriction imposed by the music publishers themselves.)

--80.130.215.178 (talk) 04:32, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Full story. --WillMak050389 05:22, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Hm, would it be possible, that LyricWiki forced this? So that their ads get displayed? --80.130.186.226 (talk) 20:32, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

LyricWiki migrated to Wikia[edit]

Please update article with this info. --201.223.71.86 (talk) 16:57, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

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