Talk:MSN Chat

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FYI, I do remember using from IRC1-8 successfully on MSN Chat's. User:Skyxo (talk) 7th July 2008 (GMT)

You best check the first few Chat Control's to find out. Yeah it looks alot better, good job. User:Skyxo (talk) 7th July 2008 (GMT)

Need more information on IRC Version. I cant remember if IRC1/IRC2 was the start. By the way Sky, is this better? OzJD (talk) 10:48, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, I don't have an account, I was thinking about making one just so I can get updated on a few wiki's. Anyhow, everyone knows who I am I think :P (reverse DNS)... Time to do some more updating, Looking good Sky, Ziggy and anyone else who has contibuted. 123.243.27.198 (talk) 09:32, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Ok, I agree about exonyte. Just specifially point it to the MSN Info page. I just updated a few more things some of my own some of yours. But its really looking a lot more respectable now, I like the content that you added too good job! By the way why are you hiding your name JD? Do you not have an account?

Sky

- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skyxo (talk • contribs) 08:19, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

On another note, I think exonytes realm should be listed as a reference, specifically the page "msn.php".

Removed OzChat link - changed/removed some minor stuff (punctuation etc), this page is finally starting to look decent. Sorry if I was misinformed, I can only go off my memory. I do remember seeing some python code on an MSN Groups many years before all this auth stuff was released, but it has since dissapeared. I have been planning on making another wiki for the MSN Chat Control itself, listing all versions and some other stuff. Anyone interested? as for the un-nessecary stuff, it was addly mostly to give some real info, rather a page full of how it shut down etc. anyhow, Nice edit and looking better, I think the bottom still needs a good cleanup though. 123.243.27.198 (talk) 01:10, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ton's of stuff in that artical was wrong and there were mispellings and sentance structure issues. It will take a while to correct it all but I have updated it with what really happened. I dont know about the OzChat link JD it seems more like an advertisement to me... Tewl did not release the auth, well at least not until he was given the ocxless code by me (big mistake). zmic now gets proper credit for decompiling the OCX (and that is facted by a link and dated in 2002). The administrators did login using NTLM there was a screenshot I saw (I cant find it) on a group that Viksra accepted me into when he socially engineered his way into MSN Chat. The screenshot had admin koach's login and a password star'd out by asterix in the NTLM options in the CAC. Hopefully between us we can piece together a better version of all this.

Apart from that Good Job most of it was ok but there was a few odd bits of writing. I apologise for taking some bits out but I just feel it was un-nessecary.

- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skyxo (talk • contribs) 22:21, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Needs more info on closure if possible.


Not sure about the merging process, but i think the MSN Chat Clones article should be merged with this one or deleted.

Let's just delete the clones and use one clone such as phreik as an example. Listing all the clones is just free advertising.

Koach.com is run by the former admin of MSN chat. He is a significant part of the evolution of MSN. To omit his new server is to deny history. I am disappointed in this omission.

Koach may of been an MSN Admin, however his site is not MSN Chat Related, i also agree with the clone comment. --R4ncid 18:04, 9 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just keeping the article tidy, removed Annoucement unfounded claim. Not content suitable for an encyclopedia. --R4ncid 09:33, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This article does not talk at all about the history of MSN Chat (when it was created, how it was only IRC before webchat was created, etc) and jumps right into its closure. Also, there is no mention of the evolution of MSN Chat and how the website changed its appearance and function over the years. Could use pictures to demonstrate these different "versions" of Chat. --Zhadows 06:38, 20 July 2007 (EST)

Modified on 29th January 2008:

  • Added lots of information about MSN Chat, removed MSN Messenger specific stuff (such as nudges), Removed certain biased information. I also believe that we need more information about irc.msn.com back in the day.
  • Moved closure to near botton - What was this doing up top in first place.
  • Changed minor stuff like spelling, grammer etc.
  • Added external references to MSN Chat, MSN Chat Team, MSN Editorial Team, Exonytes Realm, and TG007.
  • Added more descriptive information about the Authentication types.
  • Removed Biased opinion tag
  • Added requirements section
  • Quiet a few other things lol

I would like to see a (or a few) screenshots. I was unable to provide an 'early day' screenshot because of MSN Chat not allowing the "Wayback machine" on archive.org to view the website. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.243.27.198 (talk) 06:16, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why it was really closed[edit]

MSN Chat was really closed due to all the sexual predators stalking the chatrooms. I still remember to this day, the "Pool Party" rooms, where like tons of kids, usually between the ages of 14-20 (or so they said) would be engaging in RP sex. It was how I met alot of friends on my MSN, who are still on my list, to this day. 24.226.32.201 (talk) 21:57, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I remember Admins were marked by a Golden Hammer icon beside their name, and if you owned a room, you were able to designate someone as an Admin, and they'd get a golden hammer. 24.226.32.201 (talk) 21:58, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
There was golden hammer and brown hammer. 19:41, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

The gold hammer you speak of was an "owner" role on MSN Chat, Admins had a special butterfly icon, that was not available to general users. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.243.27.198 (talk) 16:14, 1 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

About that ownership of msn chat rooms: The user creating the room propped a key for that room. You could set a key for two levels, owner and host. Setting the +q mode with the owner key enabled you to become owner of the room. So even though you could owner other people(that golden hammer, host was brown), if you lost your ownership you could still regain it by propping the right key, unless it was quickly changed. There was also a possibility to prop no key at all, eg. NULL. --84.197.243.182 (talk) 22:55, 18 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

More information on the closure can be found on http://www.crn.com/it-channel/18823845 or http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/03/09/24/062218.shtml?tid=109&tid=126&tid=187&tid=95 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.71.17.8 (talk) 15:05, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cannot figure out. So there is no chat on MSM? ChrisCopo (talk) 01:41, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

At today, february 2012, I still not understand what is the major difference, or the more "safety" for a children on facebook, instead of on Msn Chat. Considering, that I don't remember that Msn showed also your home address in your profile. Mah. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.25.124.76 (talk) 02:04, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sources[edit]

  • Helen Jung (March 6, 2003). Microsoft Unleashes Greenwich IM Beta . InstantMessagingPlanet.com. About NTLM in another IM project - "Additionally, it provides standards support for SSL encryption, Digest and NTLM/ Kerberos authentication. Greenwich represents an evolution for Microsoft's..." --Lexein (talk) 15:37, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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