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Status[edit]

This article is written in very very poor format.Novice editors are requested not to add any hoax material and make article is of no use.Most importantly do not remove maintenance tag.kind regards & Thank You. 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS  10:40, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Farmer's Suicide[edit]

There is no mention of farmer's suicide (especially in the Vidarbha region) in this article. So this article does not paint a true picture of Maharashtra. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.15.65.66 (talk) 22:23, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

So find a ref to support this argument and add it to the article, wikipedia is only made up of what ppl like us put into it. Thanks, ♫ SqueakBox talk contribs 01:32, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
Article has more to explore rather than depicting farmer's suicide and daily news happening around. Bring some strong reference for such claim. Thanks--25 CENTS VICTORIOUS  18:17, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Status of Nagpur[edit]

On November 11, Ugog Nizdast reversed a number of unsourced edits, which stated that Nagpur is the second or winter capital of Maharashtra. This is a plausible idea, given that the Nagpur Pact resulted in the state legislature holding "winter sessions" in Nagpur and a bench of the Bombay High Court being based there. I looked into this briefly and found some sources which appeared to support the idea, but Ugog has raised the issue with me. Having looked through various sources including books, news and government websites, I am in two minds about this issue. I agree with Ugog that there are mostly fleeting mentions, with very little of substance. On the other hand there do seem to be a significant number of mentions, so it cannot be dismissed so easily. Amongst the sources are several government websites such as Income Tax Department, Press Information Bureau, Maharashtra Prathamik Shikshan Parishad, Governance Knowledge Centre, Maharashtra Tourism, Public Health Department, page 6 of this Meteorological Dept. paper, National Institute of Miners Health, Accountants General, Nagpur, Indian Railways, Geological Survey. There are also some books with mentions such as Land and People of Indian States and Union Territories, Buddhism and Dalits, Industrial Area and Regional Resources. However, there does not seem to be any mention in the Maharashtra state government website (i.e. maharashtra.gov.in) apart from a tender for computerized embroidery machinery, whilst the legislature does not appear to have a website. Thus, I am inclined to treat the idea of Nagpur as a second/winter capital as being a common but unofficial designation. Any ideas or other sources? Green Giant (talk) 22:27, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Good job in digging up all this. Unless anyone has any better ideas, I think we should remove this from the infobox and make a mention of it in the article instead, since we can't confirm it being the official position. Plenty of sources mentioning it, nothing elaborating in its actual position but enough to indicate it being common/popular. -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 18:25, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, feel free to do that because I think it is probably the best course of action. Green Giant (talk) 22:57, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Expansion[edit]

Hi, wikipedians. I've done a large change in this particular article. I request you to all please please do not revert any edit, as i'm in process of adding more contents with references, correct citation and etc. Thanks for your co-operation. Kind regards. --25 CENTS VICTORIOUS  17:00, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Is the expansion finished now? Folklore1 (talk) 13:27, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
Yes, I have done it.--25 CENTS VICTORIOUS  18:29, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

culture[edit]

Who has pulled the a dick move of showing misal under the culture of maharashtra ? There are proper sampurna maharashtrian theories that need to be substituted there. Includes Puranpolee, modak, amti, bhat, bhaji, koshimbir, chutney, loncha, kurdai etc... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 54.240.196.185 (talk) 23:28, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

Only encyclopedia contents are mentioned here. For detail knowledge refer main article. Thanks. --25 CENTS VICTORIOUS  12:26, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
What do you mean only encyclopedia ? Which encyclopedia ? There are articles on wikipedia itself about maharashtrian dishes. Next time I complain, I am going to take this higher. I will give you a chance to verify and create proper entries for maharashtrian food. Misal is a street-food, not for eating every day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.22.135.197 (talk) 05:26, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

History[edit]

See the sentence in "History" beginning with: "After the break-up of the Bahamani sultanate, in 1518, Maharashtra split". The two commas leave the meaning ambiguous. Did the break-up occur in 1518, before the split? Or did the split occur in 1518, after the break-up? Or did both events take place consecutively in 1518? Please clarify. Folklore1 (talk) 13:27, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

The break-up occurred in 1518. Please ignore that comma between sultanate and in. I don't know how it came.--25 CENTS VICTORIOUS  14:58, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

I removed the comma.Folklore1 (talk) 15:34, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Geography[edit]

See the sentence: "Physical features of Maharsahtra divided into Deccan plateau, which is separated from the Konkan coastline by 'Ghats'." I was unable to copy edit this sentence, because I do not understand it. Do the physical features divide the plateau, or is the plateau one of the physical divisions of Maharsahtra? Folklore1 (talk) 14:46, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Yes, actually Deccan plateau is the physical divisions of Maharashtra. --25 CENTS VICTORIOUS  14:54, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

This is still unclear to me, as I am unfamiliar with the geography of India. So I am going to leave it to you to revise this sentence. While the article has a "GOCE effort" tag, it's okay for other editors to apply changes. When I'm working on more detailed edits, I will hang a GOCE "on hold" tag (displaying a clock) to indicate that I want people to wait until I am finished. Folklore1 (talk) 15:43, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

It means Maharashtra is divided into certain regions and Deccan plateau is one of them. Hope it helps. Let me know if it's still confusing.--25 CENTS VICTORIOUS  18:47, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

I revised the sentence. Folklore1 (talk) 19:47, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Biodiversity[edit]

See the sentence beginning with "The flora of regions such as Nag region". I do not understand it. Please clarify. Folklore1 (talk) 15:30, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

It's not Nag, it was basically Nagpur region. The sentence is The flora of regions formed by.... While modifying sentence I guess I forgot to remove it.--25 CENTS VICTORIOUS  18:41, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

The following sentence was copied exactly from the referenced source: "Maharashtra is said to have 3 game reserves, 5 national parks and 24 bird sanctuaries." Does Maharashtra actually have that many game reserves, national parks and bird sanctuaries? The wording of the source material causes me to wonder if the author is just guessing. Folklore1 (talk) 16:02, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

There are 3 game reserves viz. Tadoba-Andhari Tiger Reserve, Pench Tiger Reserve and Melghat Tiger reserve. Meanwhile there are more national parks and bird centuries than mentioned. Actually wasn't able to write it in better way so just copied and pasted.--25 CENTS VICTORIOUS  18:36, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

I revised the sentence. Folklore1 (talk) 20:42, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Cuisine[edit]

See the sentence containing: "offering their food first to the lord". What does "lord" refer to? Is this the lord of the castle, lord of the house, or a deity? In monotheistic faiths, an uppercase "Lord" refers to the singular god of that faith. Folklore1 (talk) 19:39, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Here in India, it refers to God (Hindu pantheon).--25 CENTS VICTORIOUS  19:52, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

I put "the lord" in quotes. The source used lowercase, so I will keep it lowercase here. Folklore1 (talk) 20:45, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

That's nice.Please notify me once you done with copy editing.--25 CENTS VICTORIOUS  05:53, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
@Folklore1:I have added 3-4 sentences in Media section. Please see if it needs any grammar attention.--25 CENTS VICTORIOUS  06:46, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

I replaced an ampersand with "and". Folklore1 (talk) 12:46, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Excellent--25 CENTS VICTORIOUS  04:54, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Economy and political parties[edit]

Can anyone explain why sourced information on rural economy of Maharashtra and the cooperative sector's contribution to it is immature ? Ditto for political parties. Mr. 25 cent, please do not assume that you are writing for the tourist board or 4th grade geography chapter. If you want the article to achieve GA status then you will have to work by consensus and stop removing sourced information 12.111.55.194 (talk) 01:57, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

This particular article covers important and main encyclopediac contents. You can add detail information in Economy of Maharashtra. Government and administration must contain information about how state is being governed and how it's judiciary system works. You are adding political parties and reason of their split which is not require. Think by yourself. Check West Bengal and Karnataka both are FAs articles. It will clear your doubts. Thanks--25 CENTS VICTORIOUS  06:41, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

For your information, in Maharashtra and in rest of India, political parties form the governments at various levels and the Bureaucrats report to the political bosses. That being so, it is absolutely necessary to have at least some mention of political parties. The West Bengal article mentions parties. Rural population still form the majority in the state and Cooperatives have played a huge role in that part of the economy. Why is even a cursory mention of that considered "immature" in your opinion ? As I said before, you are not writing this article for the tourism board. From our interaction on other articles, I understand your POV is to omit anything that can be considered negative. I am sure some people in Texas will sympathize with you . There some school boards are protesting against sections of high school curriculum that they think portrays USA in negative light ! As I said before, consensus is important if WE want to achieve GA for this article. That is why let us discuss politics, economy and other content here before we include it in the article. Thanks Jonathansammy (talk) 17:26, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

I am ready to discuss whatever you want, as long as you don't take anything personally :-). Have mentioned parties here as well. But mentioning about why those parties broke their alliance is inappropriate (it'd would be better if we add it in UPA or NDA). Don't you think rural population role in economy comes under agriculture? I don't get the term Cooperatives? Let me know what do you mean by it. Besides if you add everything in economy section, what is the point having main article Economy of Maharashtra? Made a peer review and took several important suggestion (do check). I add only those negative stuffs which is permanent and still happening, for example religious conflicts or terror attacks. If you want me to add day to day events like minister resign, political party split, derogatory speech given by a leader and etc. I can't do that. By the way I would've been so happy if you had mentioned Phoenix instead of Texas. --25 CENTS VICTORIOUS  19:58, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
The political situation at present moment is fluid but that should not stop us from mentioning the parties that have been or are active in Maharashtra. Cooperatives are or have played a prominent part in the rural economy of Maharashtra[1]. Cooperative is a Mutual society where small farmers are also part owner of the organization ( Sugar mill or Dairy) that buys, processes and sells the produce. There are tons of primary and secodary references available where you can find more information on the topic.Jonathansammy (talk) 00:46, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
I don't have anything against mentioning the politics briefly but this article is supposed to be comprehensive, mentioning the most recent political turmoil reminds me of WP:Recentism and WP:NOTNEWS. They are more relevant in the Politics of Maharashtra page but mentioning just which parties are present here should be enough for the "History section". The other para on economics I've yet to form an opinion on. -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 13:57, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
PS: Politics of Maharashtra is just a short stub right now and there's plenty of room for expansion documenting this turmoil and the previous political history if anyone is interested. Good day, Ugog Nizdast (talk) 14:00, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Maharashtra/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Jaguar (talk · contribs) 14:55, 30 January 2015 (UTC)


Will have this to you within 48 hours Jaguar 14:55, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

  1. Is it reasonably well written?
    A. Prose is "clear and concise", without copyvios, or spelling and grammar errors:
    B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:
  2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
    A. Has an appropriate reference section:
    B. Citation to reliable sources where necessary:
    C. No original research:
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. Major aspects:
    B. Focused:
  4. Is it neutral?
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. Is it stable?
    No edit wars, etc:
  6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
    A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:
    B. Images are provided if possible and are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:

Initial comments[edit]

  • Be careful of WP:OVERLINKING in the lead section. Cutting down on a few wouldn't hurt
  • "Places such as Pune, Satara and the surrounding area have many historical places associated with the Maratha Empire to visit" - I would cut or reword this, it almost sounds like an order and doesn't seem necessary if they aren't essential to the article
  • "The state is also dotted with caves from ancient Buddhist, Jain and Hindu times" - aren't caves prehistoric? Sounds like they were 'constructed' in those times given
  • "with large cities besides Mumbai such as Navi Mumbai, Pune, Nagpur, Nashik, Aurangabad, Kolhapur, Thane, Solapur, Amravati, Satara, Sangli and Nanded" - too long and listy! A few of the most important ones should be mentioned
  • For an article of this size and its significance, the lead could summarise the article better. Currently the lead is too 'listy' and could include more content on what Maharashtra's culture, history and geography is. I tend to follow the rule that the lead should act as a "mini article" and should summarise almost every section in the article
  • " as "one of the 4 great kings of the world"" - four
  • "Nagpur, which is the subcapital of the state" - "subcapital" is not a word or article
  • All the measurements in the Geography and climate section are in metric only, so they need to be converted to imperial using a conversion template per guidelines
  • "Sahyadri range, with an elevation of 1000 meters" - Indian English is 'metres', is it not?
  • The last paragraph in the Geography and climate section is vastly unreferenced
  • More overlinking in the Biodiversity section and less prose. I think to pass the GA criteria there needs to be more content here
  • "The state's six (seventh will be Nanded division operational from 23 February 2015 comprising 4 districts" - four
  • "The literacy rate rose to 83.2%. Of this, male literacy stood at 89.82% and female literacy 75.48%" - when were these stats recorded? Are the outdated?
  • " with the Pune Metropolitan area being the leading IT hub in the state.." - needs one full stop
  • "Important Cash crops include Sugarcane, cotton , oilseeds, tobacco, various kind of fruit" - should cash crops and sugarcane be capitalised? And "various kind of fruit" would sound more encyclopaedic as just "various fruit"
  • "(31–37 mi/h)" - mph
  • Education and social development section needs more references. The first paragraph is unreferenced
  • "Among seafood, the most popular fish is bombil or the Bombay duck, which is normally served batter fried and crisp." - is this important?
  • Literature section is a concern here, it is more of a list with almost no prose. The names could be cut back and more details added

References[edit]

Close - not listed[edit]

I'm sorry to do this, seeing as you had to wait a while for this to be reviewed, but in its current state the article cannot pass the GAN without a substantial group effort to satisfy it. There are too many prose issues and dead links, along with some sections with almost no prose and just lists. I'm sure if all of the above could be addressed then this article would stand a better chance at the next GAN, but for now there is too much work to be done in seven days. Good luck Jaguar 18:09, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Make In Maharashtra merger[edit]

I don't see how this page can be merged here, that would be WP:UNDUE focus. I think at most, a statement mentioning this can be added here and linking to it. The separate article is fine as it is. -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 13:11, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Agree with Ugog Nizdast. Probably Make in India could be better candidate for merger into.--Redtigerxyz Talk 18:31, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Monarchy of NeilN[edit]

Why Mr. NeilN probably a foreigner is so obssessed for deleting the marathi scripted Maharashtra from the initial sentence, Maharashtra is a Marathi State but still NeilN has revived his monarchy of reverts under various roofs of rules which are surely important but interpreted by NeilN in his own way Sarita Narvekar (talk) 12:56, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

You are well aware of WP:INDICSCRIPT, either at this account or any of your possible past ones. --NeilN talk to me 13:01, 27 February 2015 (UTC)