Talk:Maharashtra floods of 2005

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This new page on wikipedia is an attempt to create a new page about a tragedy which struck the metropolis of Mumbai from the afternoon of 26th July 2005 and continued to engulf the city until 27th July 2005. The impact shall remain for years, and the debate about its dimensions and reasons shall continue for years.

I am not sure, but perhaps by creating this article on wikipedia, I have endeavored to prove that wikipedia can function and deliver pretty fast, compared to several other similar medium, which are in the field (of encyclopedic writing) for a period quite longer than wikipedia.

I would request all editors interested in the matter, particularly editors from Mumbai who must have felt the direct impact of 2005 Mumbai floods to contribute and edit – I expect that my edits get massively amended. Thanks. --Bhadani 19:20, 27 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This sounds bad[edit]

  • Best wishes to all of you who may be caight up in this - Ian ≡ talk 02:15, 28 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • I as a wikipedian, on behalf of wikipedia and on my behalf convey, best wishes to all those who faced / continue to face this human tragedy. --Bhadani 02:33, 28 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • My condolences go to the families of the dead and my prayers go toward those still missing… --mav

newspaper scans[edit]

Is scanning 3 full pages fair use? I would think 1 but 3 might be too much. Elfguy 12:24, 28 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Maharashtra[edit]

Should we call this 2005 Maharashtra floods? violet/riga (t) 12:54, 28 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This says the floods were across Western India. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 13:14, July 28, 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, Google news is showing articles with all three titles (Mumbai, Maharashtra and Western India). I think Maharashtra is the most accurate. violet/riga (t) 13:17, 28 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I had a look again. Maharashtra is the accurate title. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 13:20, July 28, 2005 (UTC)
Yes that is fine. --Bhadani 14:01, 28 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

New Mumbai / Panvel[edit]

Any news , photographs from NewMumbai/Panvel? pradeepsomani

Nope, though there was one in the ToI =Nichalp «Talk»= 09:34, July 31, 2005 (UTC)

got space at Main Page[edit]

Finally Maharashtra floods got space at Main Page pradeepsomani

Yes, and the inspiration for creating a page 2005 Maharashtra floods came from your message: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nichalp) - thanks. --Bhadani 15:56, 30 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Anonymous editor/s[edit]

An anonymous editor with less than 10 edits to his credit has taken an active interest in this article and removed an entire section. This is not acceptable. I am re-putting the section, as a number of registered editors found nothing wrong in the section. In my opinion, the section may be re-written/re-worded, but removing the entire section appears unwarranted and without any reason. Further comments are invited. --Bhadani 15:18, 30 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I would rather wait for comments by other editors. I feel social and emotional issues of a tragedy of this magnitude should find a mention. It may wait for some time until more relevant information come to light. --Bhadani 15:34, 30 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Sections should not be removed unless there is a valid reason. =Nichalp «Talk»= 09:33, July 31, 2005 (UTC)

More rain[edit]

Its been pouring all day today and its very very dark. Its only 3pm but seems like 8. =Nichalp «Talk»= 10:39, July 31, 2005 (UTC)

Please take care. --Bhadani 12:01, 31 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Developing the article[edit]

I feel all wikipedians agree as regards a really encyclopedic and comprehensive article on this topic. I suggest reorganization of the sections/future subsections on the following lines:

Lead sentences – current texts with few further edits/updates

  • Overview

- to contain current materials with few further edits/updates

    • Floods in Mumbai

- to contain relevant details, including subsections like “Effects on Mumbai’s links with rest of the world” (though abridging the name of the section/sub-section would look better)

    • Floods around Mumbai

- to contain relevant details

    • Other affected areas

- to contain relevant details

  • Topography

- current texts as lead sentence/ further expansion

    • Reasons

-new edits

  • Health concerns

-current texts and further edits/ expansion

  • Social issues

- re-written from the earlier section removed by an anonymous editor, or newer texts containing social and emotional issues

  • Financial cost

-current texts with expansion as and when information is gathered.

  • Recovery

- to wait for few days until things settle down and normalcy starts returning

  • Legacy and aftermath

- to wait for few days until things settle down and normalcy starts returning / this section will also be useful for further edits after months/ years of this unfortunate event

  • References

- current / updated

  • External links

- current / updated

Images as required in different sections, to be inserted as and when available. The above is just my suggestions and I request other editors to suggest further sections and subsection.

I am not sure of the fact if we can have blogs in the external links. I leave this matter to the discretion of other editors who may be aware of the wiki policies in this regard. --Bhadani 14:51, 31 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Govt failure?[edit]

An anon added text from this article. Since it is a copyvio, I've removed it. However, someone can mention that POV too referencing this article. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 07:20, August 1, 2005 (UTC)

Regarding the Rainfall Level[edit]

Friends, I feel a little silly asking such questions, about seemingly insignificant matters, at this point where Mumbai is still being flooded. But I really need to get this clear. Was the July 27 rainfall the highest ever in India or the world? This article says it's eighth highest, whereas the wikinews article claims its highest ever in the world. Can someone please tell which is correct? Jam2k 15:09, August 1, 2005 (UTC)

The figures here are correct. It is the eight highest in India. The highest in the world stands at ~1800 mm. It was in the Toi I'll chk it out once again. =Nichalp «Talk»= 20:12, August 1, 2005 (UTC)

Seeking important contact information[edit]

Seeking important contact information- Phone/Fax numbers, Address of Govt. offices, NGOs helping flood affected peoples. PradeepSomani

Cite sources for drainage problem[edit]

[Following is a query by an anon that was in the article. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 03:46, August 19, 2005 (UTC)]

Please authenticate the details about the drainage system of Mumbai. From what i know the drainage sytem you talk about is the present South Bombay which received less than 40mm rain that day. T he damage done was in the northern section of the city which received 944mm of rain. That part was developed only after 1947. -- 202.68.146.116

Free images[edit]

I found some free images: [1] for the floods, Just upload it in commons, use the same licence and credit the photographer, and link to the source.

relief[edit]

Blanking attack[edit]

This article was subject to two blanking attacks, one on Nov 15 2005 and one on June 10 2006, where some vandal removed substantial amounts of text. I reverted to the version just before the June 10 blanking. Many good edits that took place have not yet been incorporated. Also, the stuff that got removed on Nov 15 stays removed. Can someone recover that please? — Ravikiran 08:04, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

overview[edit]

i think that much of the first paragraph should have been put in overview.

sorry[edit]

this is stupid but the discussion titled overview has been contributed by me Shj95 (talk) 15:28, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds terrible[edit]

The section Uncontrolled whatever in North Mumbai sounds biased against North Mumbai. Buildings are NOT constructed hapharzadedly there. Some of the best planned housing societies lie in these areas. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 16:55, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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