Talk:Malayan Campaign

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Needs to be more neutral. Also needs to explain why the British couldn't deal with the Japanese onslaught despite numerical superiority - ie. bicycle infantry, etc. For the tone I've put up a "cleanup" page. Will plan to modify it heavily. -- Natalinasmpf 23:03, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

A more precise template for this objection would be {{POV}}, not cleanup. Since I've read bafflement (Wikipedia Talk:Cleanup#Why not fix it?) at how this objection could be accommodated, toning down words like "desperately", "devastating", "dangerously", "ill fated" and "unfortunately" would help, as all these words imply that the invasion was a very bad thing. But I'm not convinced that Wikipedia:Neutral point of view is really violated by saying that a very bad thing was a very bad thing. Tojo would disagree, but I think most Japanese today would write the article about the same way it's written now. So I think this article is covered by Wikipedia:Neutral point of view#Undue weight, and I think making it "more neutral" would interfere with the need "to explain why the British couldn't deal with the Japanese onslaught". Art LaPella 03:39, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Heenan[edit]

The overemphasis of the affair of Heeman, who is a scapegoat for the debacle, reinforces the suggestion that this article lacks neutrality. As the article notes, the British were are at severe disadvantage in tanks and aircraft and were outflanked by sea so what relevance does the Heenan affair have to the outcome of the campaign other than providing a scapegoat. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.3.11.157 (talk) 05:03, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

Heenan should be completely dealt with under 5th columns and spies and not the final paragraph of the article. I think a line saying he was executed in Singapore in February 1942 would surfice. He does remain one of the list contributing factors to the loss. How major or minor that role was is undetermined. NealeFamily (talk) 09:13, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

British stragglers[edit]

Were there any British troops who got left in Malaya when most of the British troops retreated to Singapore, were not captured by the Japanese, and carried on fighting in the Malayan jungles (like some American troops in the Philippines)? There's no mention of them in this article. 222.165.42.62 (talk) 12:58, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

There's "... Freddie Spencer Chapman, who was isolated behind Japanese lines by the loss of Singapore and maintained a precarious existence among Malayan communists until regaining contact with British headquarters in 1943." See http://pwencycl.kgbudge.com/S/p/Special_Operations_Executive.htm. Do not simply cite this source; it is tertiary and self-published and thus not a reliable source by WP standards. You need to hunt down appropriate secondary sources. --Yaush (talk) 15:10, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Casualties do not add up.[edit]

If the allies had 140,000 men, and 60,000 were casualties (including 40,000 captured), then what happened to the other 80,000? Very few escaped. Tuntable (talk) 07:13, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

I suspect the remaining 80,000 were captured/killed in the Battle of Singapore. NealeFamily (talk) 22:48, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

Thai forces in the Malaya Campaign[edit]

An editor has added that Thai forces were involved in the Japanese invasion of Malaya. While I know they occupied several northern Malay states with the agreement of the Japanese later in the war, I can not find anything to support them being directly involved in the invasion and conquest of Malaya. Does anyone have any information to support the edit? NealeFamily (talk) 20:20, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Malayan Campaign[edit]

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Malayan Campaign's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "Klemen":

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT 03:40, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Corrected - NealeFamily (talk) 21:42, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Grammar Error[edit]

In the line:

To counteract this plans for a pre-emptive invasion of southern Thailand, named Operation Matador, had been drawn up.

Adding a comma after "this" fixes it, but having "this" as the descriptor ruins the sentence. The sentence needs to be rewritten.

Done NealeFamily (talk) 04:33, 25 May 2014 (UTC)