Talk:Malvern Hills

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edit·history·watch·refresh Stock post message.svg To-do list for Malvern Hills:

Here are some tasks you can do:
  • Article requests:
    1. The cafe on the Beacon (and why it will not be replaced)Yes check.svg Done Mhygelle (talk) 17:48, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
    2. Cables cars, and other such ideas
    3. Reintroduction of grazing Yes check.svg Done Mhygelle (talk) 17:49, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
    4. The Hills habitat - plants and animals
    5. OS co-ords for the peaks (extra column in table)
    6. An outline map, labelling the different peaks, and indicating various settlements next to hills
    7. Referencing is a bit thin Yes check.svg Done Mhygelle (talk) 17:50, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
    8. Quarries and Quarrying could be a separate section
    9. Maybe something about the regular fires on the Hills
    10. Donkeys on the hills
    11. Geology section
    12. More detail about individual hills.
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

. -User:ajmyatt 01:30, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Survey[edit]

Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your opinion with ~~~~
  • Support --Philip Baird Shearer 01:14, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Support Valid rationale above; simpler link. Jaraalbe 07:43, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Question[edit]

Can anyone suggest a better way of saying "The quarries, especially North Quarry and Tank Quarry are a favourite place for local teenagers to be rescued from.", or should the line just be removed?

Geology(expansion needed)[edit]

The geology of the Malvern Hills is complex enough for the article to have its own section on the composition of the rocks, and a cutaway diagramme of the strata. These are some of the oldest hills in the country and this information is therefore important. maybe somebody can help by creating this section. Some useful background information is available here: Malvern Hills Geology. --Kudpung (talk) 03:32, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Have expanded it slightly but much remains to be added. Geopersona (talk) 21:39, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
Very good ideas. Here's the probable order of importance. I'll chip in too whren I can.
Moved to ToDo list--Kudpung (talk) 23:54, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Resources[edit]

The following could be useful for expanding and referencing the article:

  • Bikett, Percival (1882) Malvern Hills (information compiled from documents dating from 1128)
  • MHC is composed of: "Two persons to be nominated by the council of the county of Worcestershire; Two persons to be nominated by the council of the district of Herefordshire; Eight persons to be nominated from and by the council of the district of Malvern Hills;" http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si1996/Uksi_19961867_en_4.htm Statutory Instrument 1996 No. 1867 The Hereford and Worcester (Structural, Boundary and Electoral Changes) Order 1996
  • Area of Great Landscape Value, the Hills immediately east are designated as a Site of Special Scientific Interest and the area is also designated as Historic Park and Garden.
  • The 1995 Malvern Hills Act. cafe burned down in 1985 (golly, that was 25 yrs. ago already!)
  • Garrard, Rose (2008)DONKEYS YEARS ON THE MALVERN HILLS : “By the time the little village of Great Malvern was made a town in 1851, there were as many donkeys as human residents.”  Beacon Books
  • Significant changes occurred after the outbreak of WW2, as the town was chosen as a refuge for government departments, and an RAF base was set up. Evacuees from the south arrived, as did troops for quartering and refugees from Belgium. With the arrival of US forces, the town population swelled to 30000 and five army hospitals were built on the town’s fringes. The two existing government Research establishments, founded around WW1, were united in 1953 as the Radar Research Establishment and this remains a defence installation to this day. --http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2203319/A-brief-history-of-Malvern-England
  • TheMalvern Hills receive over one million visits a year Malvern Hills Conservators web site: http://www.malvernhills.org.uk Minutes: MALVERN HILLS CONSERVATORS ANNUAL MEETING OF THE BOARD 12 November 2009 7 pm Priory Lodge Hall Avenue Road Malvern 9.4.3.1 (Ammual mtg 121109 for web site.doc Malvern Hills Conservators web site: http://www.malvernhills.org.uk

--Kudpung (talk) 05:00, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Does "Hollybush Hill" exist?[edit]

The list of hills (which seems to be take from http://www.ephotozine.com/photolocations/malvern-hills-488 without giving them a citation) includes "Hollybush Hill" between Midsummer Hill and Raggedstone Hill. This appears to be a misreading of the map at http://www.malvernhills.org.uk/Content/Malverns_PocketGuide_web.pdf which includes the village of Hollybush (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollybush,_Worcestershire) and a few other passes in what is otherwise a list of hills. After several hours of research, I can't find any evidence of there being a hill of the same name.

The source of the confusion may well be http://www.malvernhillsaonb.org.uk/documents/L02-2135-02B.pdf - note that this includes "Tinkers Hill 700ft (213m)" which isn't on the Wiki, and perhaps should be? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.24.30.53 (talk) 12:59, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Hollybush Hill lies below and to the east of Midsummer Hill.

Hollybush Hill on MAGIC Multi Agency Geographic Information for the Countryside Mhygelle (talk) 08:47, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

I've added Tinkers Hill to the list of individual hills. Mhygelle (talk) 19:17, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Vistas[edit]

I am considering nominating this article to be rated as a Good article in the new year. Does the Vistas section go into too much detail to satisfy Good article criteria? Mhygelle (talk) 10:35, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

  • The section is perhaps overly detailed but not easily reduced. However, the information is not really of the nature that would constitute a complete article on its own. Despite this, of these two choices, the latter would probably be the appraoch I would suggest. Split off the tables into a stand alone piece and reference the "main article" in the section but keep the overview. Saffron Blaze (talk) 11:26, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
  • I think the section is fine within the article, although it could be greatly improved by adding coordinates for each vista point. The same comment about coordinates is also true for the list of hills too. When that is done, adding the {{kml}} template to the article will allow all the hills and vista points to be viewed on a single clickable/zoomable map. That sort of thing adds real value to Wikipedia articles (IMHO). --Bob Re-born (talk) 11:56, 13 December 2011 (UTC)