Talk:Manny Pacquiao

Steroid use

Its been reported that Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer and Top Rank Chief Bob Arum are trying to work out a Super fight between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr. Mayweather has asked Pacquiao to undergo a random blood and Urine testing up until the fight day, because rumors speculating from professional boxers including Andre Berto, Paul Malignaggi, Nate Campbell, kermit Cintron and Ricky Hatton of Pacquiao's jump through seven weight classes. Pacquiao said he will undergo blood and urine testing up until 14 days before the fight, Stating that by giving blood too close to the fight day will weaken him. United States Anti-Doping Agency chief executive officer Travis Tygart said that athlete's tested within a 14 day window prior to a big match or tournament can still cheat, and get away if they are on Performance-enhancing drugs.

Untitled

Manny's WBC world super featherweight title is currently listed under minor titles. the WBC are one of the 4 major boxing bodies? if there is no objection within next 48 hours i'll update it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.168.124.50 (talk) 09:36, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

HE IS A SIX-TIME WORLD CHAMPION!!!

As of September 27, 2011. Manny Pacquiao is a six-time division world champion. Many believe that Pacquiao is an eight-time world champion, which is totally a myth. You know why? Because of the two reasons. First reason, his The Ring Featherweight World Title which he won against the Mexican Marco Antonio Barrera in 126lb. division is not a major world title. The boxing world only consider four major World Title, which is WBC,WBA,IBF & WBO. And the rest is just a minor titles. So it means that after the time he badly beated Barrera, he is just a two-time world champion, not a three-time. Second reason would be at the 140lb. division against the hitman Ricky Hatton. His International Boxing Organization(IBO) is another kind of minor titles. As I mentioned earlier, only four boxing body organization is considered a legitimate world titles. So it means that Manny Pacquiao is just a six-time world boxing champion.DAVERYANCARINO (talk) 06:53, 11 October 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by DAVERYANCARINO (talk • contribs) 10:48, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Whatever happened to the long article about Pacquiao?

I am just wondering the last time I stumbled on this article it was long and enormously detailed. Now, it's brief and has been unfairly compressed to a few pity paragraphs. What happened? Or is just I typed a wrong key word (manny pacquiao?)? -- Jimmy Knowles

Fight Night Round 3

In FNR3 they mention his early life. It says he ran away from home and starting boxing. Ill get the complete details later.

Corrected your spelling Domykneeko1319 (talk) 18:25, 30 June 2008 (UTC) dOm

Deleted: "Sino ang Tatapos" section

I deleted---for the second time---the subsection named Sino ang Tatapos? for the following reasons:

1. The particular fight in itself does not deserve its own section, because it is placed apart from the history of Pacquiao's fights (it was placed after and outside the Biography section. For this reason, I moved this information where it should be seen.
   1. Corollary to the above. By the time the November 19 match ends, there will be no justification for giving this specific fight its own section. It will be merely one of his fights.
2. The original deleted text was not well-written, so I rewrote it consistent with the entire article's language. I rewrote it, but the user who restored the section also restored the original, unrevised text.

Please do not restore the deleted section or attempt to create a separate section for this match outside the history of Pacquiao's fights. --- Tito Pao 21:13, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

$500M?

"In September 2006, Pacquiao signed a major deal with Golden Boy Promotions (GBP), headed by Oscar de la Hoya, which is good for seventeen fights [3]. This development was confirmed by coach Freddie Roach. Under the deal, Pacquiao is guaranteed a prize money of US$500 Million for each fight. With regard to profits made on each fight, Pacquiao will be receiving at least 90% while the remaining 10% will go to Golden Girls Promotions."

That can't possibly be true. The source has an unreliable (but far more reasonable) estimate of $300,000, but it's only an estimate based upon an unnamed "source." Perhaps it's best to not have a figure in there at all. --S.Reemas, Dec. 1, 2006

His birthplace

I'm not certain about whether he was actually born in Kibawe, Bukidnon but his birth certificate definitely says he was born in Baluan, General Santos City, weighing 3629 grams. This can easily be confirmed by contacting his congressional staff at the House of Representatives. He was registered late, which might explain the confusion (the certificate is marked with 'Delayed Registration'). It is possible that he was born in Kibawe but registered in General Santos but Cong. Pacquiao himself has said he was born in General Santos as he says that's what's indicated in his birth certificate.Mabs1214 (talk) 09:11, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Old people from Sarangani Province said that pacman was born in Glan

-you guys don't believe ask the people from Sarangani Province

Here is also evidence that will prove

http://www.philippinecountry.com/philippine_news/pacquiao_vs_solis_stat-04-01-07.html

http://www.philippinecountry.com/philippine_news/manny_pacquiao-09-28-06.html

http://war.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manny_Pacquiao

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb/2006/01/25/oped/frank.malilong.the.other.side.html

http://wwwpeopletodaycom.blogspot.com/

http://forums.doghouseboxing.com/index.php?showtopic=41251

I think this reference will prove that manny is really from Glan Sarangani Province

We really need references on that claim. --Howard the Duck 15:58, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

How then can explain the enormous amount of Kibawe references? And also, it makes sense we won't use another Wikipedia language, web forums, blogs and Philippinecountry.com (not really the best website for these kinds of things) as an appropriate and reliable references. Only the Sunstar ref looks legit but other newspapers either cite a GenSan or Kibawe birthplace. And Sunstar is a regional newspaper; I'd rather trust a national newspaper. --Howard the Duck 05:01, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

I currently live a few hours from Kibawe, and yes I can confirm that he was BORN in Kibawe and grew up in General Santos. I've repeatedly heard the same thing from news articles for years. Do note that they moved immediately after his birth which explains why Pacquiao has stronger ties with GenSan.--203.111.229.158 (talk) 10:20, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

NPOV

after reading this whole article, although im a filipino, i find that there are sections that violate WP:NPOV and WP:PEACOCK †Bloodpack† 03:00, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Official Rating, Ranking

I did add the very important latest rating and ranking by the bible of boxing.

--Florentino floro 05:57, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

I added the Official Statement of President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo.

--Florentino floro 06:53, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

I don't think that's needed. I'll be removing it. --Howard the Duck 07:11, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

I suggest updating his current weight class from Light Welterweight to Welterweight. --(talk • contribs) 22:31, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

BoxRec should be added to the list of sites that rank him #1 P4P. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blant Bayneler (talk • contribs) 18:35, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

YAHOO! Sports Top 25 Most Powerful In Boxing

Look at this link. [1] . He was given the 16th spot! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.97.192.149 (talk) 03:35, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

How much?

Here it is and how many viewed this? The fight ended 2:23 of the 9th round and was viewed mostly by 8,362 Filipinos. Pacquiao delivered 788 punches to Diaz's 463, also landing 10% more of his blows, hurting Diaz most by the 180 power shots that connected. Diaz had been cut severely over his right eye in the 4th round. His left eye was a purple, swollen mass. Bob Arum announced that Pacquiao is most likely to fight November 8 versus 130-pound Venezuelan champion Edwin Valero. "I can fight in November," Pacquiao stated, "Who I fight is the job of my promoter (Bob Arum)." Diaz' had his best payday, $ 850,000 and Pacquiao earned at least $ 3 million.sports.espn.go.com, All hail the new kingiht.com, Manny Pacquiao stops David Diaz in 9th round to claim unprecedented fourth title--Florentino floro (talk) 08:27, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Neutrality of Pacquiao's Politics (a line)

"Numerous sports personalities and analysts around the Philippines expressed that Pacquiao should think seriously and deeply about his sports career, which could potentially be destroyed by the dirty world of politics."

I find this line a bit out of the neutral zone, just thought maybe someone could edit it? --Robert Adrian Dizon (talk) 12:56, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes, very POVic. Which part of the article is that? --Efe (talk) 13:02, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

It is part of the sixth paragraph of the Politics section. --Robert Adrian Dizon (talk) 21:14, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Rematch? Payback?

Is it possible that a new section would be added? I just find this "In a bout held at Taguig City, Philippines, Pacquiao fought against Fahsan (3K-Battery) Por Thawatchai. Pacquiao sent 3K-Battery to the canvas three times en route to a knockout in the fourth round. A left uppercut to the jaw that lifted the Thai fighter's feet off the canvas ended the fight."statement pointless in its section. Can a Rematch section enough for this statement?

Also, this one "After the Morales bout, Pacquiao was in the limelight again during the first week of February 2006 when a waitress working in a Manila night club claimed that he was the father of her son, born out of a whirlwind affair with the boxer. The boxer, allegedly, was giving the child financial support which was also kept a secret from his wife, Jinkee, until she found out and caused a problem in their marriage, but soon mended." which is in the section of "Newfound Fame", I think that this paragraph doesn't fit fame (scandalous maybe?). Also, a little help with the organization of article might help. Domykneeko1319 (talk) 18:41, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Pacquiao & Mosley done deal http://boxingcommunity.org/articles/5-news/1286-pacquiao-a-mosley-done-deal.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.14.181.147 (talk) 00:17, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Major cleanup...

...when Manny's next opponent is announced, along with date and place. --Howard the Duck 14:19, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Freddy Roach?

Shouldn't some credit of the surge of Manny's success be given Freddy Roach? Under his tutelage he won all of his big fights. Maya Levy talk 04:18, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

I agree, there should be a well developed Roach-Pacquiao section ^ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wildwilly3232 (talk • contribs) 21:35, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Other media - HBO and Readers Digest

Well, I added this, and want to know if you agree with this edit. Please free to modify. I reproduced these here for your easy reference. On October 10, 2008, Home Box Office started filming Pacquiao’s biopic television special at General Santos City. It was aired by HBO’s for the “Dream Match." The HBO biopic included his philanthropic side and it also produced Dela Hoya's biopic.gmanews.tv/story, Report: HBO crew to film Pacquiao’s biopic in GenSan DZBB (594 kHz Metro Manila) "Super Radyo," in the Philippines announced it will cover and air the Pacquiao-Dela Hoya match live.GMA 7, dzBB radio to air Pacquiao-Dela Hoya match live 10/09/2008

HBO president Ross Greenburg presented "24/7" which featured the 2 contenders on November 16.abs-cbnnews.com, HBO '24/7' with Pacman, Golden Boy set Nov. 16 The 4 episodes series, entitled "De La Hoya/Pacquiao 24/7" had it's 1st episode, November 16.doghouseboxing.com, This Sunday on TV: Oscar De La Hoya and Manny Pacquiaofighthype.com, DE LA HOYA-PACQUIAO 24/7 EPISODE #1 "The Dream Match," on Saturday, December 6 at MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Nevada, bout will be produced and distributed live by HBO Pay-Per-View, beginning at 9 p.m. ET/6 p.m.philboxing.com/news, NEW YORK'S TIMES SQUARE IS 24/7 FOR "THE DREAM MATCH" DE LA HOYA vs. PACQUIAO! Pacquiao also graced the cover of Readers Digest Asia magazine for November, 2008, with 7-page article on his life and career.Pacquiao to grace the pages of Readers Digest--Lux Lord (talk) 10:04, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

my position is that putting this in the article is basically just promoting the biopic and HBO. Wikipedia is not a forum for advertising. xschm (talk) 21:51, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

TKO 8th

De la Hoya threw in the towel before the start of the 9th round. It was officially a technical knockoutPACQUIAO WINSPacquiao reigns over de la Hoya Yeah, it's me. --222.127.188.50 (talk) 05:03, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Pacquiao conditioning

Can anyone shed some light about his body conditioning with him being hit/tap with a "yantok"/ stick (lightly and repeatedly). Do we have a medical explanation about this or any article on the net? Do we have any account on pacman's camp explaining about this kind of conditioning?

Pacquiao himself stated that the reason why he tap/hit his body, most notably the muscled area of the abdomen is to numb the pain which he feels from the blows of his opponents. It's a brutal training regiment. Imagine yourself getting hit repeatedly by a stick for hundreds of times per training session. That has to hurt. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.138.162.6 (talk) 23:39, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

About the trilogy with Erik Morales

Hi everybody. I suggest that the sections about Pacquiao's fights with Erik Morales and the subsequent fights within their trilogy to be merged into one section. The article looks a bit messy with so many subsections. I hope anybody would notice this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Luisztdt (talk • contribs) 07:05, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Pacquio vs. Hatton

I Personaly think that the article about the fight with Hatton is a mess and needs to be cleaned up. Its simply been added to over the last month as the fight has materalised and is now just a mess of random purse figures and quotes. Does anyone agree with this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tom513 (talk • contribs) 00:26, 7 February 2009 (UTC) The article should be modified to state: At the bell, Hatton seemed to have re-grouped, only to get knocked out by a well timed left hook at 2:59 into the second round by the unrelenting southpaw. Hatton lay motionless for over a minute on his back and had to be examined at a nearby hospital as a precaution. Lakingpinas (talk) 05:55, 4 November 2009 (UTC)lakingpinas

Nicknames

{{editsemiprotected}} Please change Manny Pacquiao's nickname from The Mexi-cutioner to The Mexican Assassian as that is his nickname , can someone edit this. Also apperently another of his nicknames is Payday, I have tired to put this up but it has been erased everytime. Could someone put that up also?

Not done: {{edit semi-protected}} is not required for edits to unprotected pages. Note: The reason your edits were erased was because you did not provide any citatons, as this is kind of dubious. All editors have the roght to delete/challenge unsourced information. Leujohn ^(talk) 12:54, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Do editors also have the roght to misspell their words? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.127.131.138 (talk) 03:08, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

I think that part of the article is a bit of a joke, and gives the reader no idea as to what the fight was actually like - Pandaros (talk) 13:46, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Torrecampo fight

I have heard that his first "KO" loss was in fact a clear low blow. I think it's worth mentioning, considering the level of his opponent in this fight. 218.195.21.16 (talk) 20:37, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

False!, He was CLEARLY hit with a shot to the body. I dont know what fight you watched..... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.163.160.42 (talk) 03:44, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Not champion in 5 weight classes but 6!!!

Manny Pacquiao tied Oscar Dela Hoya's 6 division titles in 6 weight divisions with his win over ricky hatton. As you've heard michael buffer before the match with ricky hatton, pacquiao is a 5 time world champion in 5 weight classes. After the win, it's his 6th. And he broke a record by having 4 linear championships in 4 weight classes. So Please edit the 5 time champion of 5 weight classes to 6 because it is. Flyweight, Super Bantamweight/jr.Featherweight, Featherweight, Super Featherweight/jr. Lightweight, Lightweight, and Super Lightweight/jr. Welterweight. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by W2nhbky2j (talk • contribs) 03:58, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

I second this. It's a clear fact that Pacquiao is a champ in 6 weight divisions which is a tie to DLH' rcord.

I also support this. change it and fix it.24.139.77.79 (talk) 21:16, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

202.138.162.6 (talk) 00:18, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Pacquiao became only the second man to make title claims in six weight divisions and the first man ever to win lineal World titles in four weight classes. - http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=19744

A Pacquiao victory would give him a world title in a record-tying sixth weight division -- flyweight, junior featherweight, featherweight, junior lightweight, lightweight and junior welterweight. - http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/columns/story?columnist=rafael_dan&id=4118598

Pacquiao has won titles as a flyweight (1998), junior featherweight (2001), featherweight (2003, THE RING), junior lightweight (2008), lightweight (2008) and junior welterweight (2009, THE RING), which equals Oscar De La Hoya’s six-division record. - http://www.ringtv.com/blog/1263/pacquiao_seeking_title_in_record_seventh_division/

Pacquiao is only the second fighter to win six titles in six different weight classes. Oscar De La Hoya is the only other fighter to accomplish that feat. - http://www.mahalo.com/manny-pacquiao

http://sport.stv.tv/boxing/135098-manny-pacquiaos-lucky-number-seven/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.60.241.217 (talk) 12:59, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

He's a boxer, not an actor or singer or underwear model

That he's dabbled in singing and acting shouldn't be in the first sentence or even the first paragraph. In terms of effort put in and in terms of importance in him becoming known, those two things do not compare to his boxing. If he does a Calvin Klein ad, shall we then start refering to him as a "Boxer, actor, musician, and underwear model"? Gronky (talk) 19:02, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Maybe, when he gets serious in those ventures. But you're right. Alphapeta (talk) 07:28, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Moved section

I just would like to request an immediate revision of an error in the introduction of Manny Pacquiao’s Wikipedia introduction page.

In acknowledging the championship accomplishments of a boxer, the titles that should only be counted are the lineal championships, Ring Magazine championships, WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO world championships and nothing else. The IBO world championship should not be mentioned because it is not an official boxing sanctioning organization included in the “major four,” which is the WBC, WBA, IBF, and WBO boxing sanctioning organizations.

It should be immediately corrected that Pacquiao is a multi-weight division champion in six weight divisions and not only five which is mentioned in the introduction of Pacquiao’s Wikipedia page.

As noted in other official publications, the championships that Pacquiao won are the following:

1. WBC Flyweight World Championship (Lineal Championship) 2. IBF Super Bantamweight World Championship 3. Ring Magazine Featherweight World Championship (Lineal Championship) 4. WBC Super Featherweight World Championship (Ring Magazine & Lineal Championship) 5. WBC Lightweight World Championship 6. Ring Magazine Junior Welterweight World Championship (Lineal Championship)

References:

http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.php/WBC_Flyweight_Champion http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.php/IBF_Super_Bantamweight_Champion http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.php/WBC_Super_Featherweight_Champion http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.php/WBC_Lightweight_Champion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Ring_world_champions http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/pastchp.htm

I hope the errors in the introduction get corrected right away and have Pacquiao written as the first Asian boxer and the second boxer in the world to win six world titles in six weight divisions. Pacquiao should be listed in the “list of boxing sextuple champions” together with Oscar De La Hoya and not on the “list of boxing quintuple champions.” It should also be mentioned that Pacquiao is the only boxer throughout history that has won four lineal world championships in four different weight divisions. This is the most important accomplishment of Pacquiao because the lineal championship is the most valued championship because it represents “the man, who beat the man, who beat the man, who beat the man, who beat the man …” —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dexros (talk • contribs) 00:07, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Pacquiao became only the second man to make title claims in six weight divisions and the first man ever to win lineal World titles in four weight classes. - http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=19744

A Pacquiao victory would give him a world title in a record-tying sixth weight division -- flyweight, junior featherweight, featherweight, junior lightweight, lightweight and junior welterweight. - http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/columns/story?columnist=rafael_dan&id=4118598

Pacquiao has won titles as a flyweight (1998), junior featherweight (2001), featherweight (2003, THE RING), junior lightweight (2008), lightweight (2008) and junior welterweight (2009, THE RING), which equals Oscar De La Hoya’s six-division record. - http://www.ringtv.com/blog/1263/pacquiao_seeking_title_in_record_seventh_division/

Pacquiao is only the second fighter to win six titles in six different weight classes. Oscar De La Hoya is the only other fighter to accomplish that feat. - http://www.mahalo.com/manny-pacquiao —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.60.241.217 (talk) 05:45, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Another miscellaneous about Pacquiao

Hi, I also thinks that he must be granted as the first former, present or future world Flyweight champion in the history that defeated a former, present or future world Middleweight champion. People is forgetting this prowess.

Why the article says that he is just a 5th champ in 5 divisions? He is 6th in 6th different weights. Please, fix that error. 24.139.77.79 (talk) 23:25, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

anybody here?24.139.77.79 (talk) 21:13, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Why the editor of this article does not answer?

Because "the editor of this article" does not exist. Please reread the principle this encyclopedia runs on, that it is " the encyclopedia that anyone can edit". Britmax (talk) 20:33, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Death of Pacquiao's manager, Rod Nazario

I think, the following must be added to the article: Justice Minita Chico-Nazario (San Miguel, Bulacan) holds the distinction of being the first woman Justice in the Sandiganbayan and its first woman Presiding Justice. Married to businessman Rodolfo Nazario, she and her children Roderick, Rommel, and Karen presently reside at 299 Gov. A.Santos, BF Homes, Sucat, Parañaque, Metro Manila. Nazario's husband Rod, age 74, former Manny Pacquiao manager, passed away on September 24, 2009 after having undergone by-pass operation in 2006 and underwent chemo-therapy for his lung cancer.[2][3] Pacquiao fought under Nazario from 1995 until 2005. Rod Nazario gave Pacquiao the latter’s big break in the United States in 2001 when he negotiated that “Pacman” fight in the undercard in an Oscar De La Hoya headliner at the MGM Grand Hotel in Las Vegas.[4] Rod Nazario also had four children from his first wife, Emenita – Roberto, Raymundo, Dedet, and Myra.[5] --124.106.81.204 (talk) 09:22, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Under Pacquiao vs. Hatton heading: It states "At the bell, Hatton seemed to have re-grouped, only to get knocked down for the third time 2:59 into the second round, awarding Pacquiao the win by KO."

At the bell, Hatton seemed to have re-grouped, only to get knocked out by a well timed left hook at 2:59 into the second round by the southpaw. Hatton lay motionless for over a minute on his back and had to to be examined at the hospital as a precaution. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lakingpinas (talk • contribs) 16:30, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Pacquiao only won 4 division (major) world titles

Pacquiao only won 4 titles. His featherweight title should not be included as it was only The Ring title. The ring is not considered a Major title only WBC, WBA, IBF & WBO. Don't push for a 4 division world titlist. I just had to put this since a lot of people are adding Pacquiao as a Major titlist in the list of quintuple & sextuple section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.203.85.226 (talk) 14:33, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Crime rate

Should we put the fact that there is virtually 0 crime rate in the Philippines when there is a a major Pacquiao fight? -- User:Ryomaandres 06:41, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Too many sections

Anyone has an idea on how to properly divide the article into sections? We can go with:

• Early career (include Barrera fight here since he was an unknown before the fight)
• Pacquiao at featherweight (vs. Barrera and Marquez)
• Morales trilogy (vs. Morales, Larios and Solis)
• Rematches with Barrera and Marquez
• WBC lightweight champion (vs. Diaz)
• Pacquiao at Welterweight (De La Hoya, Hatton and Cotto)
• Future plans

–Howard the Duck 14:57, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

I don't know about the breakdown but this article is way too long. At the very least play-by-play analyses of his fights could be made into another article or articles—it's like reading an article on a war where each battle is described in detail. 71.173.249.87 (talk) 18:23, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Rumours shouldn't be allowed

Please do not posty absolutely anything about the rumours about Pacquiao's possible affair with Krista.

"Manny Pacquiao is currently linked "romantically" to Krista Ranillo, one of the actresses in Pacquiao's movie Wapakman. They insist that they're only friends and Pacquiao was interviewed by ABS-CBN about the matter, and Pacquiao just replied with "No Comment".

There still so much over exaggeration and reactions from the media that we cannot clarify which source is the most genuine and formal one to put in this article. For this time being we'll wait and we won't write anything about that alright?

And one last thing when you write articles please provide "references" of where you obtained that information from. Otherwise it will be marked unrelevant and will be deleted.Blueknightex (talk) 22:58, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Recognitions

• 2009 Ring Magazine Fighter of the Year> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_Magazine_fighters_of_the_year#2000s
• 2009 Ring Magazine Knock Out of the Year Againts Hatton> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_Magazine_knockouts_of_the_year
• 2009 ESPN Fighter of the Year > http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/columns/story?columnist=rafael_dan&id=4774025
• 2009 Time Magazine Cover on time magazine Nov issue > http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1935091,00.html
• 2009 ESPN Knock Out Of The Year Againts Hatton > http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/columns/story?columnist=rafael_dan&id=4781887
• 2009 Greatest Ever Ranked 2 among the all time greats of boxing > http://www.greatestever.com/
• 2009 World's Greatest Ever Featherweight > http://www.greatestever.com/
• 2009 HBO Fighter of the Year
• 2009 HBO Fighter of the Decade > http://www.hbo.com/boxing/features/fighter_deacade/fighter_decade.html

Already updated PACMAN'S recognitions and if ever there will be more, I'll be glad to update it... and if there are any mistakes feel free to change it but all of my updates has link to justify everything...

PS... Inform us if there is any revision made...

Best Regards, Rico Sedano

IBO light welterweight

He voluntarily vacated the IBO light welterweight belt last January 15, to pursue the Clottey fight. IBO required that he defends that belt by the end of February.

Website references

You should add http://www.mpboxing.com as a reference.

Pop Culture reference

In Jay-Z's album The Blueprint 3, there's a reference to Manny Pacquiao.

The song name is "Thank You":

"on the tube I'm just watching Pacquiao box em up how would I know HBO will get a shot of us sitting so close that we almost got snot on us"

IPs edit-warring

It seems to be semi is preferable to the pending revisions options in this case. If the problems continue, semi will be restored. Enigma^msg 05:58, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

POV

Realise that boxing fans are pretty fanatical at times, but you need to have some common sense with a lot of this.

The article was way too long, and has so much useless information that nobody really wants to read. You know, the fact that Pacquiao is PFP number 1, on the web site "about.com" is hardly relevant.

Plus, a lot of printing of rumour. Encyclopedias are supposed to cover what has happened. Not rumour about what might happen.

One thing I removed was a line like "Pacquiao was overheard saying blah blah blah" with the only source being some manilla fan site. You know, stuff like that is unsubstanciated, and doesn't belong on sites like this.

The problem is that 50% of boxing sites, are fan contribution. The articles are written by fans. Amateurs. With no real insight into what's going on.

I think it would be wise to only use information from established professional sports outlets. Like your ESPNs, your Ring Magazine, your Fox Sports and your Sports Illustrateds?

Cjmooney9 (talk) 10:57, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Cruft

THis page is 109 kilobytes long and half of it is extraneous detail and cruft. The blow by blow of contract negotiations and individual fights could go, for instance. Do we really need all this? If you like I will cut it down section by section with edit summaries at every stage. Britmax (talk) 09:01, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Endless Useless information

This page is suffering from fan obsession I feel. Encylopedic articles are supposed to be a general history of a person. They're supposed to be accesible, to the point, and easy to read, for newcomers.

The page is just flooded with endless, pointless information. As in there was a section displaying his endorsements?

Why do people continually add PFP rankings from totally obscure fan sites?

Why is there information on what magazine covers he's been on.

You know, I've been on enough boxing forums to know that Pacquiao fans are occasionally a tad obsessive about this sort of stuff, but this is an encylopedia page. Not a fan shrine.

It's way too long, and still contains huge amounts of useless information, even after taking some of the above out. If people insist on this stuff being here, then I suggest we take it to a higher level, and open it up to administrators/Editors for their view.

This should be a concise, easily readable, generalized re-telling of the guys career. Not a database of useless information

Cjmooney9 (talk) 17:24, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

I have realised that there so much bias and un-important facts about pacquiao for instants he is recognised as pound for pound number 1 be about.com, espn.com, yahoo sports these sanctioning bodies are not important, (only Ring Magazine) people are turning this article like its a love fest for pacquiao and finally wiki isnt a up to date newspaper company. Jailbreaker212 (talk) 01:00, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

While Ring Magazine may be one of the more authoritative boxing-specific publications, ESPN and Sports Illustrated are two of the more authoritative general sports publishers. I can see pulling out some of about.com and the like, but I don't see a case excluding those two. —C.Fred (talk) 13:42, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

I don't know you, but the article smells like there are puppets. Tbhotch^{Talk C.} 01:15, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

This article is full of trivia and needs ruthless pruning. Britmax (talk) 09:19, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Pound

Can we PLEASE stop adding all that crap back to the lead - it is very messy to keep having them. What is your rationale for their explicit listing rather than a simple notation that other outlets rate him the same? --Errant Tmorton166^(Talk) 19:44, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

I have to agree with tmorton166 this article is full of crappy information, mostly inserted by tbhotch who is in love with Pacquiao. Jailbreaker212 (talk) 01:43, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Should I take this as a personal attack, becasue I am here for the pending changes, not for improve it OK. Also, could you decide to use only one account, because I have enough evidence about your sockpuppetering. Tbhotch^{Talk C.} 02:03, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Introduction

The introduction to this article feels too long and full of unnecessary information. The second paragraph feels bloated, do we really need to list so many boxing websites? Can we instead just provide references for them so they don't clog the introduction?

I'm not sure if we need a whole paragraph describing all the titles Pacquiao used to hold. Could we instead provide that information in the rest of the article, with a possible link in the introduction to it? The fourth and fifth paragraphs feel excessive and just list more achievements he has earned that could be listed in an "Awards and Recognitions" part of the article.

I spent a few minutes editing the introduction myself, and came up with this:

Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao, also known as Manny Pacquiao, (pronounced /ˈpækjaʊ/ ^{(deprecated template)}; born December 17, 1978) is a Filipino professional boxer and politician.

He is a Seven-Division World Champion, the first boxer in history to win nine world titles in seven different weight divisions, and the first boxer in history to win the lineal championship in four different weight classes.

Pacquiao holds a professional record of 51-3-2, with 38 wins coming by way of knockout. Currently, Pacquiao is the WBO World Welterweight Champion (Super Champion) and is rated as the number 1 pound-for-pound best boxer in the world by several sporting news and boxing websites, including The Ring.

Aside from being a boxer, Pacquiao has participated in acting, music recording, and politics. On May 10, 2010, Pacquiao was elected as Member of House of Representatives in the 15th Congress of the Philippines representing the province of Sarangani. He established the record of being the first active boxer to become a congressman in the Philippines.

It's not perfect by any means, but I think it's much easier on the eyes and easier to read without being overwhelmed by awards and recognitions. Courier00 (talk) 15:06, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

I am 1000000000% in agreement with you :) (that looks great). I will support you adding it. There is one problem; any substantial changes get immediately reverted... I tried to condense the pound-for-pound details a day or so ago and it pretty quickly got changed back to a more "neutral version" *rolls eyes*. BTW the approach I took to all those boxing site links was to put them all into one reference and then stick a {{break}} between each one. It means just one footnote tag (MUCH cleaner IMO). Here's an example of how I did it--Errant Tmorton166^(Talk) 15:11, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Actually I edited your lead suggestion to add the breaks so you could see - hope that was ok? --Errant Tmorton166^(Talk) 15:13, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

That looks great Errant, good idea on the reference change. :) Courier00 (talk) 15:20, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Format

The Format for this kind of page/article should be like the following: Info Box – includes the Name, Nicknames, Weights, Stats and Boxing Records (Total, W, W by KO, L, D)

Introduction – (1st Paragraph) Full Name, Alias, Birth date, Nationality, Profession/Career, Historical Achievements, (2nd) Pound for Pound Rankings - The Ring and other Sports Networks and Magazines, (3rd) Current Titles and Former Titles, (4th) Famous Boxing and Sports Awards like The Ring, BWAA, ESPY Fighter of the Year or Fighter of the Decade, (5th) Other Careers... Boxing Records should be posted on Info box if the boxer is still active. If the boxer will retire then it should be included in the introduction

Personal Life – (1st Paragraph) Birth date, Birth place, Parents, Siblings, (2nd) Wife, Children, Residence, (3rd) Other personal background

Education – (1st) Primary, (2nd) High School, (3rd) College Degree, (4th)Honorary Degree, (5th) Short Courses

Amateur – Short Background, Records, Awards,

Professional – Short Background, then his Weight Divisions are subtopics. Under Weight Divisions, there should also subtopics like his first, second, third titles..., important issues, or the title of the matches.

Boxing Record (Table) – Result, Opponents, Type, In what Round, Date and place of match, and notes (which includes the issues or the titles on the line)

Titles in Boxing – Major, Minor, Lineal, Regional

If there are no comments, reactions, replies, feedbacks, and suggestions to this idea, I will edit this page/article and follow this format. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Doughn (talk • contribs) 12:57, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

No, the format should follow the manual of style for all articles. We already achieved consensus on cutting down that excessive lead - if you want to put it back you're going to need to get consensus here. I can't comment on your proposals for the rest of the article --Errant[tmorton166] ^(chat!) 13:00, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

doug read tmorton166 what his wrote before reverting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Balagonj786 (talk • contribs) 13:23, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

infobox pic

makes little sense to have a pic of him on a baseball field when he is famous in another sport. please change it to one of the other pics in the article. kthankxbye.--brewcrewer (yada, yada) 19:31, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

If you have a free image of him bxing is welocme. Tbhotch^{Talk C.} 04:09, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

the other pics in the article should be exchanged with the one in the infobox.--brewcrewer (yada, yada) 03:27, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Re-write a part of the Flyweight division section

The end of the Flyweight division section under Professional career ends in: "Technically, Pacquiao lost the belt at the scales, as he surpassed the weight limit of 112 pounds.". This seems to me more like an opinion than a statement of fact. I do not think that I can edit this document yet, because I'm rather new to this community. I was thinking that something like: "Pacquiao's opponent was x amount of pounds over the weight limit of 112" would make this article better. If no exact weight is known, this would be speculative and it would be better to remove the sentence altogether. --Jorge[tito984] 21:59, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

From what I know, Pacquiao was overweight at the weigh-in, and was stripped off by the sanctioning body prior to the fight after a grace period in which they tried to make him lose weight (to the point of even shaving his hair). Then on the fight per se, he was made to wear heavier gloves; he later lost the fight. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 20:15, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

I see what you're saying, but I think that you're referring to what happened in the Light Flyweight section: "Pacquiao failed to make the required weight, so he was forced to use heavier gloves than Torrecampo, thereby putting him at a disadvantage.[23]".

I sort of got it wrong to begin with where Pacquiao was the one over the weight limit and not his oponent, but I don't know if you'd agree with me on this that the sentence needs to be refined to fit with the tone of the article. It doesn't need to be removed, but re-written. The source says, and I quote: "He weighed a pound over the Flyweight limit thus losing the title on the scales. The fight went ahead and Pacquiao lost via third round stoppage to unbeaten Medgoen Singsurat. It was then after struggling mightlily to make 112 that Pacquiao and his brain trust decided enough was enough.". So what the article should say is something along the lines of: "Pacquiao failed to meet the required weight for the division by a pound over the limit of 112 and lost the title before the fight began.". Let me know what you think. --Jorge[tito984] 20:46, 17 November 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tito984 (talk • contribs)

After checking the boxing record section, that happened in the flyweight championship fight at Thailand. He was overweight at that time and was stripped. I do also vaguely remember he did not finish the fight (maybe he was knocked out). I dunno how many pounds he was overweight, I suggest leaving off "one pound overweight". Apparently on his 1st loss (probably junior flyweight) he also failed to make the weight I dunno the circumstances of that fight. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 05:48, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

an issue regarding Manny Pacquiao's height

Can editors please change his height. Manny Pacquiao's height has seemed to fluctuate upwards along with his nascent boxing career. I find it hard to believe that a fully grown adult would add almost an inch and a half to his height.

Various sources have Manny's height down to 5'5 and that's pushing it with 5'4.5 being more likely. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rooster6630 (talk • contribs) 13:09, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

N Not done Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must not be inserted. Tbhotch^™ and © 19:24, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Also, am I right in thinking that currently his listed reach is actually longer than his listed height? A reach of 170cm is impressive for someone who isn't even six feet tall. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.176.105.35 (talk) 12:29, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Issue regarding Manny Pacquiao's Official Website

The External Link to Manny Pacquiao's official website is incorrect. It is currently pointing to pacman.craveonline.com, but that is not correct. The Official Site is www.mpboxing.com and you can visit this URL http://atomiconline.com/news/mpboxingcom-release/ to confirm. It's a press release written by the president of Craveonline, stating that pacman.craveonline.com had the rights to the official blog, but not the official website. The official website has always been www.mpboxing.com. Can we please get an editor to update that? Thanks. - FightHype 22:55, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Residency

Someone, an IP editor has listed her in the List of Filipino Americans recently. This will be reverted as there is no cited reference from a reliable source stating that she now resides (permanently) in the United States, the minimal threshold to which she can be included as a Filipino American. To the best of my knowledge she is still a Citizen of the Philippines, and has not began the Naturalization process for any nation. If someone has any information regarding this, it would be greatly appreciated.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 09:28, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Her? It's a guy :P and sounds like complete rubbish, he's a Politician in the Philippines, of course he lives there. He isn't even 1% American :P some of them like to think anyone with an ounce of success belongs to them and only got it from them xD --Τασουλα (Almira) (talk) 19:53, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Meaning of Surname

It should be noted as a curiosity, either under the introductory paragraph or the "Popular Culture" section, that his last name is a Hispanized spelling of the Tagalog word pakyaw, which means "buy large quantities."

Main article links

Can some one explain to me why the main article links are placed at the wrong places? –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 11:35, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Steroid use accusations

Wikipedia is supposed to be an impartial encyclopedia.A notable part of the boxing community including Teddy Atlas,Oscar De La hoya has accused Manny Pacquao of taking Steroids.The accusations were never proven but it is an important part of Manny Pacquaio's career in the USA This problem had a section on wikipedia but the Pacquaio fans deleted it.It was filled with reliable sources.I wish for this section to be put back as deleting it contradictis wikipedia regulations.Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.201.44.247 (talk) 05:07, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Impartial but factual. Adding rumors and suppositions falls into a WP:BLP violation, regardless the quantity of sources. ۞ Tbhotch^™ & (ↄ), Problems with my English? 05:10, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

The accusations themselves are facts..Wikipedia supports facts.And the accusations are facts supported by sources.And they are made by important members of the boxing community:Teddy Atlas,Oscar De la Hoya,Floyd Maywetaher Sr and Jr.And all of them do have reliable sources.Deleting them is illegal.I will restore them as soon I will find the sources and in case of deletion I will continue the case to the central complaint section and to the wikipedia administrators of the English section.I'm glad that Pacquaio has hardcore fans but this is an encyclopedia not a fansite. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neohertz (talk • contribs) 05:16, 28 May 2011 (UTC) This is what WB:BPL states about cristicism and praises Criticism and praise Criticism and praise should be included if they can be sourced to reliable secondary sources, so long as the material is presented responsibly, conservatively, and in a disinterested tone. Do not give disproportionate space to particular viewpoints; the views of tiny minorities should not be included at all. Care must be taken with article structure to ensure the overall presentation and section headings are broadly neutral. Beware of claims that rely on guilt by association, and biased or malicious content. What conclusion can be drawn forn this:

1.The Pacquaio fans aren't using an desinteresed tone.

2.The sources presented were:RingMagazine(the most reliable source in boxing) plus News Stations which were used as sources in hundreds of articles.

3.THe praising of Pacquaio breaks the neutrality WB:BPL — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neohertz (talk • contribs) 05:21, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Just because you say he takes drugs 10 times does not make it a "fact". This is more like "De La Hoya said Pacquiao took drugs" when? When De La Hoya would fight with Pacquiao. Removing this is not "illegal" as you said, but defamation is, especially because Wikipedia's server is in Florida and any US law apply to the site. Before you try to violate our living people policy go to a relevant noticeboard and ask if it is possible to add. ۞ Tbhotch^™ & (ↄ), Problems with my English? 05:23, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

The accusations themselves are facts..Wikipedia supports facts.And the accusations are facts supported by sources.And they are made by important members of the boxing community:Teddy Atlas,Oscar De la Hoya,Floyd Maywetaher Sr and Jr.And all of them do have reliable sources.Deleting them is illegal.I will restore them as soon I will find the sources and in case of deletion I will continue the case to the central complaint section and to the wikipedia administrators of the English section.I'm glad that Pacquaio has hardcore fans but this is an encyclopedia not a fansite. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neohertz (talk • contribs) 05:16, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

This is what WB:BPL states about cristicism and praises

Criticism and praise

Criticism and praise should be included if they can be sourced to reliable secondary sources, so long as the material is presented responsibly, conservatively, and in a disinterested tone. Do not give disproportionate space to particular viewpoints; the views of tiny minorities should not be included at all. Care must be taken with article structure to ensure the overall presentation and section headings are broadly neutral. Beware of claims that rely on guilt by association, and biased or malicious content.

What conclusion can be drawn forn this:

1.The Pacquaio fans aren't using an desinteresed tone.

2.The sources presented were:RingMagazine(the most reliable source in boxing) plus News Stations which were used as sources in hundreds of articles.

3.THe praising of Pacquaio breaks the neutrality WB:BPL — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neohertz (talk • contribs) 05:21, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Also this is what is says about gossip

Avoid gossip and feedback loops

Policy shortcut: WP:BLPGOSSIP Avoid repeating gossip. Ask yourself whether the source is reliable; whether the material is being presented as true; and whether, even if true, it is relevant to a disinterested article about the subject. Be wary of sources that use weasel words and that attribute material to anonymous sources. Also beware of feedback loops, in which material in a Wikipedia article gets picked up by a source, which is later cited in the Wikipedia article to support the original edit.

1.The sources are reliable

2.The aterial si presented in the way it was innitially statedby the accusers.

3.Is relevant to the article as Pacquaio career in the USA following the Maywetaher negociations has been dominated by these accusations.

4.There is no feedback loop

So I guess the Steroid accusation section must be reput into place otherwise RIngMagazine and other major US televisions become unreliable sources which is a bid absurd considering that all boxing articles are based on them

Moreover here is what Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons states:

Editors must take particular care when adding information about living persons to any Wikipedia page.[1] Such material requires a high degree of sensitivity, and must adhere strictly to all applicable laws in the United States, to this policy, and to Wikipedia's three core content policies:

Neutral point of view (NPOV)

Verifiability (V)

No original research (NOR)

The neutrality of the article NPOV has been virtually demolished by the countles fan postings and elimination of relevant information backed by sources.I'm sorry this is not how a wikipedia page should be organized.

• I opened a section at BLPN (Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Manny_Pacquiao) as I advised you. ۞ Tbhotch^™ & (ↄ), Problems with my English? 05:54, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

You did open a section which I thank you for.However I did not say that Pacquaio consumes drugs.He was never accused of such a thing.I tought I could solve this by reason but it appears my efforts for a non biased wikipedia are shattered by fans.Pity..... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neohertz (talk • contribs) 06:00, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

I'm not a fan (if you are trying to say that). I do not care anything about boxing—two men kicking each other's asses? Super funny!. I'm watching this page thanks to User:Balagonj786, nothing else. AAnyway, if you have sources, show them, someone commented about at BLPN. ۞ Tbhotch^™ & (ↄ), Problems with my English? 02:04, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Racist nickname

The Mexicutioner is an incredibly offensive nickname that even Pacquiao himself renounces of his fans. Please get rid of it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.128.53.89 (talk) 18:28, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

None of the nicknames is cited. Nor is there any obvious support for any of them in the body of the article. For the moment, I've added a tag to the nicknames, along with an internal reason saying the tag applies to ALL of them. I will remove the nicknames if no one comes up with any sources for them. Can you explain why Mexicutioner in particular is "offensive"? Sources supporting your explanation would be helpful.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:29, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Filipino flag icon in infobox

I removed the flag per WP:MOSFLAG, which is very clear on this point:

Generally, flag icons should not be used in infoboxes, even when there is a "country", "nationality" or equivalent field: they are unnecessarily distracting and give undue prominence to one field among many.

In my edit summary, I noted the guideline. Doughn insists on keeping the flag in, apparently simply because the same ignorance of the guideline exists in other articles. That's not a valid reason for going against guidelines. See WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS.

Doughn - and anyone else - is welcome to provide legitimate reasons why the flag should be retained. Otherwise, I will remove it.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:32, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Honors and Memorials

Since this article is locked, will someone add the following as an external reference:

• Honors and memorials concerning Manny Pacquiao, source the Global Legal Information Network — Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.147.236.195 (talk) 18:56, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Gafferking, 20 August 2011

under "Light Middleweight division" the second paragraph starts with "rior" This should be changed to Prior.

Gafferking (talk) 05:26, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Done --Jnorton7558 (talk) 05:48, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 180.234.88.1, 19 September 2011

Currently, Pacquiao is the WBO Welterweight World Champion (Super Champion???). Why there is (Super Champion) 180.234.88.1 (talk) 18:19, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. Dynamic|cimanyD contact me ⁞ my edits 19:35, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

HE IS A SIX-TIME BOXING WORLD CHAMPION

As of September 27, 2011, Manny Pacquiao is a six-time division world champion. Many believe that Pacquiao is an eight-time world champion, which is totally a myth. You want to know why? It is because of two reasons. First, The Ring Featherweight World Title which he won against the Mexican Marco Antonio Barrera in 126lb. division is not a major world title. The boxing world only consider four major World Title namely, WBC,WBA,IBF & WBO. And the rest are just minor world titles. Therefore after the time Manny badly beated Barrera, he is still a two-time world champion and not a three-time. Second reason is at the 140lb. division against the hitman Ricky Hatton. His International Boxing Organization(IBO)title is another kind of minor world title. As I mentioned earlier, only four boxing body organization are considered legitimate world titles. Hence, Manny Pacquiao is just a six-time world boxing champion.DAVERYANCARINO (talk) 06:55, 11 October 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by DAVERYANCARINO (talk • contribs) 12:28, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from , 9 October 2011

In Pacquiao's record Antonio Margarito's nationality appears as american, he is mexican. please fix this.

Alberto65 (talk) 18:59, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Done — Bility (talk) 18:22, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from , 6 November 2011

Manny lost against Marquez on Nov 12, 2011!!!!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.92.122.223 (talk) 17:33, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

I noticed there is a section in the Wikipedia write-up about Manny Pacquiao endorsing Nike. It will be useful to also note that one of his advertisements was actually shut down by the Advertising Standards Council of the Philippines for "being insensitive to religious beliefs".

Pound for pound status no more.

Pacquiao is no longer the best pound for pound fighter after his last match with Marquez, Floyd Mayweather Jr has replaced him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.92.80.12 (talk) 03:15, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

So Mayweather replaced him by not fighting anyone at all >.>

This isn't for debating who the pound for pound best fighter in the world is. Go on a fourm and do that.

But, for the sake of it, you should really consider how sciptical you bandwagon fans are being. Just one controversial win and all the records Manny has set, all the champions he has beaten and all the praise he had earned mean nothing now. Shameful. Fans can be so terrible. --TheShadowCrow (talk) 03:25, 15 January 2012 (UTC)