Talk:Marc Almond

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Gay Musicians[edit]

If he is openly gay, shouldn't he be included in the Gay Musicians category?

Yes, categorized now. BKmetic

Satanist[edit]

really? what are the sources for such news?

1999 autobiography "Tainted Life" pictures Almond with Boyd Rice, who was very involved with the CoS at the time the photo was taken, and states that it was Rice who inducted him into the Church of Satan.

--24.21.68.5 03:30, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Uh, the book itself? Also, the Church of Satan has a page (http://www.churchofsatan.com/Pages/Almond.html) discussing it as well. Chimericaldemise 23:38, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Is Marc Almond still a member of the Church of Satan? I thought he quit and is no longer a member. RiverHockey 19:59, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Lollapalooza[edit]

Since when was Lollapalooza "gay-themed?!"

Chart positions[edit]

Is there any evidence for the edits by "Lord Valaraukar" to Marc Almond's peak chart positions? Some of those look suspiciously high.

I was just coming here to ask about this, following this editor's contributions. He made faulty edits to some of the Duran Duran articles I watch; I can't tell if it's mistaken or intentional. Thanks! — Catherine\talk 01:29, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Date of birth[edit]

Regarding this edit: I think it is worth mentioning that Almond's so called "official site" insist on his date of birth being 9/7/57. (Quote: Marc would like to point out that he is 49 this year and NOT, NOT, NOT 50 as will no doubt be reported in various misinformed media. When you are 49 every year counts! Marc's date of birth is 9/7/57, work it out! Next year will be the big celebration! Marc would also like it known that in his head he is still in his early twenties!!) --Adolar von Csobánka (Talk) 19:37, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Trivia content not trivia[edit]

The "Trivia" section items aren't trivia; they should be worked into the article elsewhere.

The item about the Bananarama remix should be in a section on his work as DJ/remixer. (And he also remixed Really Saying Something, and the remix album may be from 2006 per iTunes, and BTW is it the original 80s versions or new versions being remixed?)

The item on his religion should be integrated into his biography.

Electroclash[edit]

There should be some discussion of his influence on/participation in the ill-fated electroclash movement. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.7.19.214 (talk) 06:54, 31 December 2006 (UTC).

And the whole article is a mess[edit]

Life and Works is a mess -- it just jumps in with a current band -- it needs to start with his birth, and of course feature Soft Cell prominently:


Birth, family, growing up Anything he's described as his youthful musical influences His first bands Worldwide superstardom with Soft Cell Solo career with cult following and occasional hits Transition to club music and DJing The electroclash movement Tragedy strikes! Recent events

I believe he wrote a book at some point? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.7.19.214 (talk) 07:06, 31 December 2006 (UTC).

Hyberbole[edit]

I removed references to a concert being a 'tour de force' and the audience 'in rapture'... this is not encyclopaedic language, more like fan boy excess. Vauxhall1964 (talk) 10:47, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Poor style[edit]

I am changing the following paragraph:

"The demise of Soft Cell probably had to come, since Almond and Ball went crazy (and the drugs were just a sign for that) over pop business and sell-out of artists. Marc put all his frustration in the incredible work of Torment and Toreros, which was released in September 1983. It was an incredible departure from the early Soft Cell stuff and did not only receive favorable reviews. Because of that Almond had a nervous breakdown and declared his retirement from the recording industry altogether. That never happened though."

Just letting you know.76.113.104.88 (talk) 05:42, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

The Days Of Pearly Spencer - description[edit]

There is some dispute about how to describe Almond's additions to The Days Of Pearly Spencer. I think it's best to avoid contentious adjectives like "happy" (as in "happy ending") and instead just describe the fact that he extended the song. Different people will have different views on the quality/suitability of Almond's additions, and different ways of describing them, therefore in order to remain neutral I think such descriptions should be avoided. PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 19:28, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Why is 'happy' contentious? If you really consider it to contain a PofV, how about 'upbeat'? BTW, 'happy' here does not stand alone. It is part of the idiomatic term 'happy ending'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.84.11.82 (talk) 21:08, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

This discussion is coloured by the edit to the article which was inserted on 06.02.11. I'm not quite sure why there's such strength of feeling about this matter - there seems to be some antagonism towards Almond's treatment of the song. Perhaps it is thought that Almond disrespected the original, but if you read Almond's autobiography it is clear that he only undertook to record more cover versions ("Jacky" and "Pearly Spencer") at the insistence of his record company, and he only added the extra lyrics to "Pearly Spencer" because Trevor Horn was calling off the recording session unless "an extra twist" could be added to the song. To quote Almond, "[Horn] audaciously suggested I should write an extra verse for the song, to finish the story. I tentatively obliged, Trevor liked it, and the whole thing was back on." ("Tainted Life - the autobiography", p347). Almond also recounts his admiration for the original version of "Pearly Spencer" (which he actively chose as one of the cover versions, in preference to the other suggestions of the record company) - he says "I had loved the song by David McWilliams ever since I had listened to it in my teens". But getting back to the discussion, although I personally agree that Almond's additional verse changed the tone of the ending of the song, I don't think that "happy ending" (or "upbeat ending") accurately describe this change of tone - I think it's more subtle (particularly as the musical accompaniment slows down at the same time in a way which is not "upbeat"). However this is venturing into my POV, and it is because Wikipedia policy prefers such views are avoided - because they can be subject to disputes such as this - that I think that in the article it should just baldly state that Almond extended the song, and leave it at that. After all, people can listen to the versions themselves, and make up their own minds! PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 06:41, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

other projects[edit]

shouldn't there be some mention of Almond's participation in more avant garde projects? He had a side project called FLesh Volcano with Jim Thirlwell. He also worked with Coil and contributed vocals to a Current 93 song. I think these are important things to mention as they show a broader picture of him as a musician. — Preceding unsigned comment added by YorkshireNed (talkcontribs) 07:17, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

The Surname Of Marc Almond's Mother[edit]

I have changed the spelling of Marc Almond's mother from Dieson to Diesen. The former spelling was used in Marc Almond's autobiography. However there is a Norwegian genealogy site http://www.nettdiesen.com/742.html which shows that her surname was Diesen and this can be confirmed by a search on FreeBMD (http://www.freebmd.org.uk/). Whilst I'm on the subject, I will add Marc Almond to the English people of Norwegian descent category. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AmandaMS (talkcontribs) 04:31, 3 October 2012 (UTC)