Talk:Margaret Theresa of Spain

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File:Margarita edades.jpg[edit]

I presume this is a collection of her portraits? Should be moved to commons... --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 22:23, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Name[edit]

Her name should be Margarita Teresa of Austria =\ LPC (talk) 18:42, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

A move request will allow you to post evidence in support of that move. FactStraight (talk) 01:55, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Move made to Margaret Theresa of Spain uncontested Mike Cline (talk) 12:20, 29 November 2011 (UTC)



Margarita Teresa of SpainMargaret Theresa of Spain relisted --Mike Cline (talk) 04:06, 19 November 2011 (UTC) – Margaret Theresa achieved her peak of notability and historical importance as Kaiserin Margarete Theresia. The article about her sister, the Queen of France, is titled Maria Theresa of Spain.. The articles about their father and brother are titled Philip IV of Spain and Charles II of Spain respectively. Therefore, it does not make sense to have the title of this article half in Spanish, half in English. Surtsicna (talk) 12:41, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Fixing malformed move request --Mike Cline (talk) 15:31, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Suggested move back to Margarita Teresa[edit]

I didn't oppose the move to Margaret Theresa even though it went a bit against the grain for me. I've since identified the reason for my unease, which is that I, probably like most people, became aware of her through the Velázquez portrait Las Meninas. In commentary on that painting, she was usually referred to by her Spanish name and title. It seems to me her chief claim to fame is as the subject of this painting rather than her short-lived reign as Empress. So on the whole, I would be in favour of Dany Mountbatten's suggestion of moving the article back. Awien (talk) 18:04, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

It seems that, when mentioned in the context of the painting, she is slightly better known as Margarita Teresa[1] than as Margaret Theresa[2]. However, when mentioned as empress, she is twice as likely to be referred to as Margaret Theresa[3] than as Margarita Teresa.[4] Generally, she is somewhat better known as Margaret Theresa of Spain than as Margarita Teresa of Spain. Surtsicna (talk) 13:33, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
Surtsicna, the results of your Google search are not completely accurate. If you look up "painting "Margaret Theresa", there are results which have nothing to do with the infanta/empress Margarita/Margaret. For instance, one of the results of this Google search is "The Canadian who's who: Volume 31", which highlights "Robert Crosby and Margaret Theresa", which is another person with the same name.
That said, if you move "Margarita Teresa" into "Margaret Theresa", then you have to move all other articles of Spanish royalty which have the Spanish version of their names into the English version of their names. Here you have 10 examples:
Infante Antonio Pascual of Spain => Infante Anthony Pascual of Spain
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infante_Antonio_Pascual_of_Spain
Maria Luisa of Parma => Marie Louise of Parma
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Luisa_of_Parma
Carlota Joaquina of Spain => Charlotte Joaquina of Spain
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlotte_of_Spain
Maria Luisa of Spain, Duchess of Lucca => Marie Louise of Spain, Duchess of Lucca
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Luisa_of_Spain,_Duchess_of_Lucca
Infante Carlos, Count of Molina => Infante Charles, Count of Molina
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infante_Carlos,_Count_of_Molina
Infante Francisco de Paula of Spain => Infante Francis of Paula of Spain
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infante_Francisco_de_Paula_of_Spain
Infanta Luisa Fernanda, Duchess of Montpensier => Infanta Louise Ferdinanda, Duchess of Montpensier
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infanta_Luisa_Fernanda,_Duchess_of_Montpensier
Princess Luisa Carlotta of Naples and Sicily => Princess Louise Charlotte of Naples and Sicily
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Luisa_Carlotta_of_Bourbon-Two_Sicilies
Infante Enrique, Duke of Seville =>Infante Henry, Duke of Seville
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infante_Enrique,_Duke_of_Seville
Infanta Maria Cristina of Spain (1833–1902) => Infanta Marie Christine of Spain (1833-1902)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infanta_Maria_Cristina_of_Spain_(1833%E2%80%931902)
If you don't move them, then I don't see why 'Margarita Teresa' should be moved to 'Margaret Theresa'. (DanyMountbatten (talk) 15:48, 18 December 2011 (UTC)).

Regardless, she it should be X of Austria. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.154.2.137 (talk) 04:55, 29 February 2012 (UTC)