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Untitled[edit]

It looks like Lir ia partway correct; Margrethe II of Denmark gets 830 hits on Google whereas Margaret II of Denmark gets 30 (with this page being number 1). I will therefore make the move. --mav

indeed...Lir 21:26 Nov 10, 2002 (UTC)

Actually, the Queens full name /is/ Margrethe Alexandrine Þorhildur Ingrid, even though the Danish alphabet does not contain the thorn, Icelandic does. When Queen Margrethe was born, the Danish king was still sovereign of Iceland; and as a courtesy to Iceland, she got a Icelandic middlename. But there seem to have been an edit-war on this before. Could anyone help on the correct guidelines to use? Rasmus Faber 18:52, 19 Dec 2003 (UTC)

No reply, but it seems that other pages on monarchs and heads of states uses the native spelling. If someone is in doubt that Queen Margrethe actually uses the Þ in her name, here is a link to the Danish royal family's homepage: http://kongehuset.dk/artikel.php?dogtag=kh_en_rf_tq . Rasmus Faber 13:50, 22 Dec 2003 (UTC)
That link expired. Here is a new one: http://kongehuset.dk/publish.php?dogtag=k_dk_familien_dronningen --Thathánka Íyotake (talk) 01:07, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Correct titles.[edit]

Crown Prince Frederick was not king when his daughter Margrethe was born. His father was very much alive.

Royal House[edit]

Are her children in the House of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg or Laborde de Monpezat? (Alphaboi867 23:25, 22 Feb 2005 (UTC))

In Denmark, we consider them to be Glücksburgers, and Crown Prince Frederik has not indicated any desire to change neither the dynasty's name nor the coat of arms when he becomes king. However, his younger brother Prince Joachim officially uses a variation of the royal coat-of-arms. The official royal coat-of-arms carries a centre escutcheon with the arms of the former dynasty, the House of Oldenburg, which is also used by the House of Glücksburg. Prince Joachim uses a coat-of-arms where the escutcheon is vertically devided between the arms of Oldenburg

A coin !?[edit]

That's the best do-able? I admit it's better then nothing, but it looks terrible (and does the same for her). Anyone have a better pic? Thanx 68.39.174.150 04:41, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I don't know why there isnt a better picture, as i have seen a photo of her on her page twice now, but it always seems to be replaced by a photo of a coin.

Headline text[edit]

Because we have no copyright-free photo. The ones that were on were copyright and had to be deleted on sight. Otherwise wikipedia and the person who downloaded them could have been sued. As we have no other image we legally can use we have to use the coin. If we ever can get a copyright-free image of the Queen we can use it. If we can't, we will be stuck with the coin. FearÉIREANN 22:53, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

A private picture is available on Swedish Wikipedia sv:Margrethe_II_av_Danmark. Apparently it is PD and GFDL but I don't know how to upload it to the English Wikipedia --Valentinian 13:30, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

A Possible copyright problem[edit]

Princess Margrethe (pronounced Margretta) was baptised on 14 May 1940 at The Naval Church and confirmed on 1 April 1955 at Fredensborg Palace. As the Danish king was also sovereign of Iceland at the time, as a courtesy the princess was given an Icelandic middle name, Þorhildur (spelt with the Icelandic thorn character, transliterated "th").
Margrethe was not born to be Queen, even though she was the child of a Monarch. At the time of her birth in Denmark, only males could ascend to the throne. Since Margrethe had no brothers it was assumed that one of her uncles would one day assume the throne. However, in 1952 Queen Elizabeth II ascended to the throne of the United Kingdom and this caused questioning into why a woman could not become Queen of Denmark. As a result, a referendum was held and on 27 March 1953 a new Act of Succession permitted female succession to the throne of Denmark, but only if the King had no sons. Princess Margrethe was therefore Heiress Presumptive to the Danish throne.''

I think this came from an article on Margrethe II from the the Insight Guide ot Denmark. ISBN 9814120731 159753 18:42, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

It's also inaccurate - Denmark has normal male-preference primogeniture, doesn't it? Meaning that the daughter of a deceased elder son of the King can succeed ahead of a younger son. Which this relation implies wouldn't happen. Also, Queen Margrethe had only one uncle, Prince Knud. Since had several sons, it was rather unlikely that either of Margrethe's grand-uncles (Christian X's brothers other than Haakon VII of Norway, who was out of the succession) would inherit. john k 19:05, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

She is also an accomplished translator and is said to have participated in the Danish translation of this book.

Say what??? Lhademmor 12:40, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

Uh, yeah....let's remove it. john k 16:27, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

Constitutional process in forming government[edit]

"After consultation with representatives of the political parties, the Leader of the Party which holds the largest number of seats in the Danish Parliament is invited to form a new government." This is not technically totally correct - more correct would be "the leader of the party with support from the largest number of members of parliament...". With the large number of parties represented in the Danish parliament, governments are quite often formed by leaders of smaller parties. The requirement is basically that there not be a majority against you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Denmark EFLarup 19:12, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Languages[edit]

I've personally heard the queen speak Faroese, and I presume she has at least basic Icelandic language skills, but can anyone find any documentation on this? 13:20, 31 Dec 2006 (UTC)

She has stated herself that she can read and pronounce Faroese, meaning that she does not speak it actively. This is possible for other Scandinavians with a couple of years of practice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.164.41.45 (talk) 00:02, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

What is Her Majesty's baptismal date?[edit]

The current text says she was baptized on May 14, 1930. This is clearly impossible since she was not born until 1940. Should it say May 14, 1940? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.166.36.31 (talk) 03:23, 14 January 2007 (UTC).

Somebody had been playing with the date. She was baptized on May 14, 1940 at Holmens Kirke (the Copenhagen Naval Church). Her confirmation was on April 1, 1955 (Frederiksborg Palace). Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 10:08, 14 January 2007 (UTC)


Daisy[edit]

The queen is often informally referred to by the name Daisy. I think this should be mentioned, but does anyone know how/why she got this nick-name. O0pyromancer0o 03:35, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

The nickname is an anglification (right word?) of the name Margrethe. The name Margrethe has a connection with the Daisy flower, in danish called Marguritter.--Nwinther (talk) 17:06, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Þorhildur[edit]

Actually, I think the queen's name Þhorhildur isn't Icelandic, but Faroese. --80.166.176.169 (talk) 19:32, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

No, Þ does not exist in Faroese. Iceland was part of The Danish Realm at the time of her birth. Therefore she received an Icelandic name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.164.41.45 (talk) 23:58, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

A Joke?[edit]

Who on Earth is the "Benjamin Bach" mentioned in this article? And who is the Benjamin Bach mentioned in the ariticle about Queen Margrete I of the Kalmar Union? This claim must be verified. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.164.41.45 (talk) 00:12, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

It seems that mr Bach has been coming and going since the page was formed. Is it a persistent saboteur logging on from different computers or is it some sort of virus? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.164.41.45 (talk) 19:03, 1 February 2008 (UTC)


Can the Queen vote?[edit]

Can the Queen and other members of the Danish Royal Family vote in elections? And do they? I read the Danish constitution years ago but do not remember seeing anything in there that precluded the Royal Family from voting in elections. I *think* there is a tradition or custom where the Queen of England does not vote in elections. Just curious. Also, where can I find more info on this?♦Drachenfyre♦·Talk 16:29, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

According to this webpage from the Danish parliament, there isn't any law that prohibits the queen and the royal family from voting. However, they're not on any electoral lists, which is a prerequisite for voting. And tradition certainly is that they do not vote. -Lilac Soul (talk contribs count) 20:36, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
How is it known that they are not on an electorial list? Are the lists made public? Though publically they are apolitical, does it demonstrate bad civic participation in that the Royal Family does not vote in elections? ♦Drachenfyre♦·Talk 10:46, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Royalty in virtually all constitutional monarchies does not vote, as they must always be seen to be completely politically neutral. So while she may not be legally forbidden, the convention is that she does not.PrinceOfCanada (talk) 17:59, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
I am pretty sure that the entire royal family is on the electoral lists and that they even receive electoral identity cards prior to elections like everybody else, choosing, however, not to use them. However, I lack a source at the moment --Thathánka Íyotake (talk) 01:12, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

One could not verify who voted and who did not vote, as all votes are confidential. So it could be that they do vote, but that their choices are not made public. ♦Drachenfyre♦·Talk 08:41, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

They don't vote. It would surely "get out" if the queen either voted on the election day (showing up at the poll) or went to municipal hall and voted by letter (She has to appear in person).--Nwinther (talk) 17:08, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

No early voting? Or any other accomidation? ♦Drachenfyre♦·Talk 04:38, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

I just needed to point out that the Kingdom of England ceased to exist 301 years ago. Elizabeth II is not Queen of England; she is Queen of the United Kingdom. Surtsicna (talk) 17:41, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Whatever. Let's split hairs, shall we? 76.77.225.169 (talk) 20:36, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

no they can not most of the danish constetusion is about what the royal family cant do like vote and that they must follow the faith of the protestant church ect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.32.156.199 (talk) 17:15, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Danish dynasty[edit]

Can anyone confirm that the Crown Prince should be listed as part of the 'House of Laborde de Monpezat' rather then the House of Glücksburg?♦Drachenfyre♦·Talk 12:41, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Notice[edit]

User:Drachenfyre and a number of other editors discussed this issue at Talk:Frederik,_Crown_Prince_of_Denmark#Dynasty --Law Lord (talk) 22:55, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Name[edit]

The danish royal family has last name REX so that is missing in her name mentioned in this article -luise —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.167.173.177 (talk) 21:21, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

"Rex" is the Latin word for "King", so it's a title rather than a family name. Queen Margrethe's grandfather Christian X would sign letters "Christian Rex", but I believe this style has gone out of fashion. At any rate, in her case it would be "Regina" ("Queen"). Favonian (talk) 08:24, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Titles in template[edit]

An IP editor has recently changed the template on this article to include titles of the people listed (see diff). Could somebody tell me, whether this is regulated by the Manual of Style or otherwise? I think it is actually a good change, since it makes the page more informative. --Law Lord (talk) 22:50, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Removal of useless info[edit]

I remove the entire section of "Kinship with European counterparts" because it's all trivial and genealogy. You can just summarize all the info by saying she was relative to all European monarchs. I don't see any such sections on any of her European counterparts so why do we have it here. I think someone just wanted to fill some space with it.--Queen Elizabeth II's Little Spy (talk) 06:45, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

royal style[edit]

what is her full royal style? is it just Queen of Denmark? 98.206.155.53 (talk) 18:49, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Yes, Margrethe II abandoned all the titles of her predecessors. Her father and grandfather were styled By the Grace of God, King of Denmark, the Wends and the Goths, Duke of Schleswig, Holstein, Stormarn, Dithmarschen, Lauenburg and Oldenburg. All the German possessions were lost in the Schleswig-Holstein wars and King of the Wends and the Goths were only medieval feudal titles.--Queen Elizabeth II's Little Spy (talk) 05:04, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Descent from Christopher II of Denmark[edit]

Does anyone know if she descend from the Kaas of Sparre Danish noble family or any other descendants of Erik Christoffersen Løvenbalk? Many of her cousins does but I'm not sure about her. Cause if she does then she descends from Christopher II of Denmark which no Danish monarch has been since Eric of Pomerania?--Queen Elizabeth II's Little Spy (talk) 18:10, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

The Royal Knees[edit]

This sentence is from the article: She suffers from arthritis and has had both her knees replaced as a result. I believe not the knees as such were replaced but her knee joints. --Krawunsel (talk) 18:32, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

British Army Connections[edit]

She is colonel in chief of the Princess of Wales Royal Regiment, this should be in the article somewhere??? --82.24.54.99 (talk) 12:30, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Danish Royal Family Template[edit]

What's going on with that massive template for the Danish Royal Family? It contains so much information that would be better off in the article correctly; besides, it looks out of place and amateurish. I'd correct it, but templates are beyond my ability right now. 109.149.73.110 (talk) 11:20, 29 May 2012 (UTC)f

Birth Country[edit]

Considering that Denmark was occupied by Germany during the time of the queens birth, her birth location should be changed to Amalienborg Palace, Germany. The birth place of historical figures are usually presented with the diplomatic status of the time of birth. For example, Yuri Gagarin are stated as being born in Soviet Union instead of Russia. It would be a good idea to add a parenthesis that states that the birth place is in present day Denmark, for example (now Denmark).--Mart — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.235.201.200 (talk) 13:21, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Denmark was not annexed by Germany. As you yourself said, the kingdom was "merely" occupied. Surtsicna (talk) 15:27, 5 November 2012 (UTC)