Talk:Mark Chelgren

Comments on Execution of Immigrants who are Felons

Recent news articles both at the state and national level have reported Chelgren's statements about immigrants who commit felonies, are deported, and thus return. He suggests that they should be eligible for the death penalty. I believe this is active controversy that deserves attention on his page, however as the banners indicate that he's at risk of biased editing, I will just leave this here. I doubt many people are on this page but can someone confirm that it's acceptable for me to post about it so that persons researching him can find the information? I have included below a paragraph that would seem fitting but I am open to revisions. Thanks.

Mark Chelgren has recently come under fire for comments he made regarding immigrants reported by the Journal Express of Knocksville and Marion County. He suggested that the death penalty be a possible punishment for felons who cross into the United States after deportation. Chelgren claims that he was misunderstood and that his position was "race-baiting" by the democratic party and that his only attempt is to prevent terrorism and the commission of additional felonies. These comments have been formally renounced by the Republican Party of Iowa.

National News Source: http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/iowa-state-sen-mark-chelgren-certain-immigrant-felons-should-be-n472491

RedDarling (talk) 15:33, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

References

Further issues in higher ed

Is this worth commenting on? http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/2016/02/03/iowa-bill-targets-stanford-marching-band-incident/79783788/ Seems like he has a vendetta against higher ed 204.27.197.5 (talk) 18:43, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

NBC news claims

The NBC news article makes several erroneous claims that have made their way quickly into the Wikipedia page, without editors bothering to validate. Other discrepancies appeared in the Wikipedia page that were not in the quoted article.

• The bio info about Forbco was not in the Iowa State Senate biography (as someone entered here), nor in a "government website" nor the "Senate web page" as the article claimed. The article actually credits this biography to a different website (cited here) that is clearly marked as paid for by the Republican Party. In fact, the Iowa State Senate biography (2011, 2013, 2015 - I checked archive.org to make sure they hadn't been changed) lists his education as an AS at Riverside Community College and attending Univ of California [at Riverside], with no mention of Forbco. It appears the NBC reporter never found the bio info at the State Senate pages and so did not know about the Associate degree prior to the interview.
• Replaced the description of Forbco from the original article (implying it operated a single Sizzler) to the later description by Chelgren. I found an independent 2011 references that it opened 36 "units" [franchises] from about 1977-1983, so Chelgren's description seems more accurate.
• Considering the reporter seemingly didn't know about the A.S. at the start, he had confusion about the 3 years of college that Chelgren indicated to the reporter, but it seems a non-issue as it agrees with the earlier Iowa State Legislature bio (1 year (or more?) at UC Riverside and 2 yrs for an Associates degree) I see no reason to perpetuate the reporter's confusion. It appears that the "did not graduate" refers to UC Riverside, while the "took classes for three years" was for college (the 2 schools combined).
• Added Publisher to some references
• Removed "but dropped out" because that was not "according to the university's spokesman" in the referenced NBC News article, but seemed to have been added without a valid reference. I reworded "His official biography" because that is unsupported by the reference and seeming inaccurate or at least ambiguous. Replaced it with the words from the article "He told NBC he took classes for three years"
• Reworded the claim mis-stated at the beginning of the NBC article (but see the end of the article) about his Senate File 288 limiting Democrats (it applies to all parties). Added reference to the bill itself.
• Removed the unsupported statement that the bill curtailed academic freedom (no such claim is made in the quoted article).

MabryTyson (talk) 15:04, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

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